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Why hasn't THE LAW transitioned from .pdf to .oxps?

PDF sucks dick.
Silver Whorehouse Roommate
  02/23/18
wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this deca...
Twinkling cuck
  02/23/18
Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late...
Stirring scarlet stead fanboi
  02/23/18
My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.
Clear Wrinkle
  03/03/18
I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95
Trip cruise ship private investor
  02/23/18
not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off ...
big orchid theatre
  02/23/18
lmfao
Trip cruise ship private investor
  02/23/18
90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an o...
aphrodisiac dog poop
  02/23/18
Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020
Trip cruise ship private investor
  02/23/18
What are the advantanges?
Glittery Filthpig
  02/23/18
...
Marvelous lay
  02/23/18
i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro&q...
big orchid theatre
  02/23/18
(guy trusting electronic redactions)
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan ...
big orchid theatre
  02/23/18
If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usual...
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
Lol
Silver Whorehouse Roommate
  02/23/18
"on more than one occasion I've received documents from...
ebony duck-like institution useless brakes
  02/23/18
Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I ...
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
paralegals should be trained in this. i say should be bec...
big orchid theatre
  02/23/18
v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
"That's probably because some moron highlighted in blac...
Silver Whorehouse Roommate
  02/23/18
Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?
ebony duck-like institution useless brakes
  02/23/18
My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purp...
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "re...
ebony duck-like institution useless brakes
  02/23/18
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other a...
snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn
  02/23/18
OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to b...
Silver Whorehouse Roommate
  02/23/18
Metadata?
glassy idea he suggested gay wizard
  02/23/18
Cravath uses LotusNotes
big-titted giraffe
  02/23/18
...
Marvelous lay
  02/23/18
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Thriller fear-inspiring point
  03/03/18


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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Silver Whorehouse Roommate

PDF sucks dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470467)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Twinkling cuck

wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this decade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470470)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Stirring scarlet stead fanboi

Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late aughts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470523)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Clear Wrinkle

My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526206)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Trip cruise ship private investor

I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470475)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: big orchid theatre

not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off support a few years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470499)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Trip cruise ship private investor

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470515)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: aphrodisiac dog poop

90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an old man's profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470489)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Trip cruise ship private investor

Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Glittery Filthpig

What are the advantanges?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470504)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Marvelous lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470530)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: big orchid theatre

i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro" to do simple shit like apply redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470544)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

(guy trusting electronic redactions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470692)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: big orchid theatre

thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan before filing--not positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470701)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usually love technology, but on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc. In one case it was every single redacted doc in their production. Obviously in that case it's a problem with Relativity settings or whatever they were using, but I've seen it in individual PDFs too. Curmudgeonly as it sounds, it's better to be safe than sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470717)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Silver Whorehouse Roommate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470753)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: ebony duck-like institution useless brakes

"on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc."

That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes. That's not redacting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470820)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I have no idea whether or not my junior associates are proficient enough to use redaction tools appropriately, and I'm not going to waste time checking to make sure that they didn't screw up (and I think my firm actually disabled the redaction function in acrobat last year because of this). I just tell them to highlight in Word, change highlights to black, print and then scan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470883)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: big orchid theatre

paralegals should be trained in this.

i say should be because i know even at top firms half of them are useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470942)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471041)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Silver Whorehouse Roommate

"That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes."

OMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471072)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: ebony duck-like institution useless brakes

Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470812)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purported to contain electronic redactions, but that retained the text underneath the redaction in some form. In one of the instances that I am thinking of, I saved the PDF as a Word doc and the text was there. In the other, I went to copy text (including the redaction) out of the PDF and into a brief that I was writing, and the redacted text showed up when I hit paste. No idea if the counterparties at issue were using Acrobat, but as a result I do not trust electronic redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470859)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: ebony duck-like institution useless brakes

That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "redact."

I don't see how switching to oxps would solve that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471202)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: snowy pea-brained crackhouse azn

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other about oxps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471221)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Silver Whorehouse Roommate

OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to be used with it much simpler than developing PDF tools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470722)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: glassy idea he suggested gay wizard

Metadata?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470702)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: big-titted giraffe

Cravath uses LotusNotes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Marvelous lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470906)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: Thriller fear-inspiring point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526147)