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Why hasn't THE LAW transitioned from .pdf to .oxps?

PDF sucks dick.
confused hospital prole
  02/23/18
wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this deca...
Stirring Haunted Graveyard Theatre
  02/23/18
Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late...
Rough-skinned bossy selfie
  02/23/18
My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.
Irradiated jewess plaza
  03/03/18
I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95
Alcoholic heaven striped hyena
  02/23/18
not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off ...
Racy stubborn round eye
  02/23/18
lmfao
Alcoholic heaven striped hyena
  02/23/18
90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an o...
Talented psychic field
  02/23/18
Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020
Alcoholic heaven striped hyena
  02/23/18
What are the advantanges?
drab swashbuckling space
  02/23/18
...
Fuchsia Lay
  02/23/18
i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro&q...
Racy stubborn round eye
  02/23/18
(guy trusting electronic redactions)
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan ...
Racy stubborn round eye
  02/23/18
If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usual...
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
Lol
confused hospital prole
  02/23/18
"on more than one occasion I've received documents from...
Wonderful school
  02/23/18
Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I ...
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
paralegals should be trained in this. i say should be bec...
Racy stubborn round eye
  02/23/18
v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
"That's probably because some moron highlighted in blac...
confused hospital prole
  02/23/18
Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?
Wonderful school
  02/23/18
My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purp...
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "re...
Wonderful school
  02/23/18
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other a...
Gaped Dull Becky
  02/23/18
OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to b...
confused hospital prole
  02/23/18
Metadata?
violent burgundy orchestra pit
  02/23/18
Cravath uses LotusNotes
Alcoholic crusty bbw organic girlfriend
  02/23/18
...
Fuchsia Lay
  02/23/18
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dead death wish knife
  03/03/18


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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: confused hospital prole

PDF sucks dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470467)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Stirring Haunted Graveyard Theatre

wasn't THE LAW still using WordPerfect until early this decade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470470)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Rough-skinned bossy selfie

Lol, I used word perfect and loislaw as a summer in the late aughts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470523)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Irradiated jewess plaza

My firms dms shows we switched in 2007.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526206)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic heaven striped hyena

I heard partners at SullCrom still use Windows 95

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470475)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Racy stubborn round eye

not flame, debevoise was still on xp when microsoft cut off support a few years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470499)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Alcoholic heaven striped hyena

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470515)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: Talented psychic field

90%+ of lawyers are like 90. Very high median age. It's an old man's profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470489)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Alcoholic heaven striped hyena

Diaper dispensers in every office by 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: drab swashbuckling space

What are the advantanges?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470504)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Fuchsia Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470530)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Racy stubborn round eye

i dunno, but it's bullshit that you need "Acrobat Pro" to do simple shit like apply redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470544)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

(guy trusting electronic redactions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470692)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Racy stubborn round eye

thats how we file shit under seal. maybe we print and scan before filing--not positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470701)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

If you don't, you should definitely print and scan. I usually love technology, but on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc. In one case it was every single redacted doc in their production. Obviously in that case it's a problem with Relativity settings or whatever they were using, but I've seen it in individual PDFs too. Curmudgeonly as it sounds, it's better to be safe than sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470717)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: confused hospital prole

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470753)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Wonderful school

"on more than one occasion I've received documents from the other side that were "redacted" but still contained extracted text for the full doc."

That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes. That's not redacting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470820)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

Totally plausible, but what if that moron works for you? I have no idea whether or not my junior associates are proficient enough to use redaction tools appropriately, and I'm not going to waste time checking to make sure that they didn't screw up (and I think my firm actually disabled the redaction function in acrobat last year because of this). I just tell them to highlight in Word, change highlights to black, print and then scan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470883)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Racy stubborn round eye

paralegals should be trained in this.

i say should be because i know even at top firms half of them are useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470942)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

v5 here; i'd put the number at 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471041)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: confused hospital prole

"That's probably because some moron highlighted in black or used text boxes."

OMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471072)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Wonderful school

Is your claim that Acrobat's redactions don't work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470812)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

My claim is that I have received more than one PDF that purported to contain electronic redactions, but that retained the text underneath the redaction in some form. In one of the instances that I am thinking of, I saved the PDF as a Word doc and the text was there. In the other, I went to copy text (including the redaction) out of the PDF and into a brief that I was writing, and the redacted text showed up when I hit paste. No idea if the counterparties at issue were using Acrobat, but as a result I do not trust electronic redactions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470859)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Wonderful school

That's because they're using non-redaction tools to "redact."

I don't see how switching to oxps would solve that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471202)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: Gaped Dull Becky

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't care one way or the other about oxps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35471221)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: confused hospital prole

OXPS is an XML-based format, which makes creating tools to be used with it much simpler than developing PDF tools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470722)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: violent burgundy orchestra pit

Metadata?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470702)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Alcoholic crusty bbw organic girlfriend

Cravath uses LotusNotes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Fuchsia Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35470906)



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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: dead death wish knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901731&forum_id=2#35526147)