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New AI stomps the shit out of contract lawyers. Yup-- you are indeed fucked
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Date: February 26th, 2018 9:18 AM Author: excitant clown https://mashable.com/2018/02/26/ai-beats-humans-at-contracts/?utm_campaign=Mash-BD-Synd-Flipboard-All-Full&utm_cid=Mash-BD-Synd-Flipboard-All-Full#vp9y179xlkq4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489480) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: grizzly cumskin #vp9y179xlkq4
Get rid of that shit. |
Date: February 26th, 2018 9:41 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing >> So does this spell the end of humanity? Not at all. On the contrary, the use of AI can actually help lawyers expedite their work, and free them up to focus on tasks that still require a human brain.
"Having the AI do a first review of an NDA, much like having a paralegal issue spot, would free up valuable time for lawyers to focus on client counseling and other higher-value work," said Erika Buell, clinical professor at Duke University School of Law, who LawGeex consulted for the study. <<
This is so wrong. All it does is further reduce easy billables. Essentially the more easy billables soaked up by technology, the more you have to fill your 2000 hour bucket with very tough ones. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:00 AM Author: Mischievous bawdyhouse of course that's what a law professor is going to say. What else could she say, "lawyers are done here, stop applying " (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489658) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing Lawyers aren't done here.
But I reject the notion that this is in any way good for practicing attorneys. Hell, even shit like redlining software has been bad -- those were easy hours that required precision but not a lot of difficult thinking. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: stirring international law enforcement agency Not to mention, it sounds good on paper but has the potential to create serious fuckups. I once had a review where the client insisted just on using tech and didn't want any attorney time spent on review. I decided to skim through the production set before it went out anyway (not intending to bill for it, it just made me nervous to not have any idea what was in there). Lo and behold, the client's fucking SETTLEMENT STRATEGY OUTLINE was in there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489694) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:10 AM Author: Bat shit crazy haunted graveyard lol, like u didn't put it there, jealous fleshbag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489702) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: purple big-titted church building trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489998) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: Drab Galvanic Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35491224) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:13 AM Author: hairraiser buff parlour AI knew that litigation is flame. All cards on the table + quick settlement > expensive litigation where costs outweigh any potential savings from going through the process (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489718) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:15 AM Author: Bat shit crazy haunted graveyard Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489729) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Mischievous bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489735) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489737) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:19 AM Author: 180 range double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489749) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: Chocolate orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489779) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: stirring international law enforcement agency To be fair, you're probably right.
That said, there was a lot of money at stake but it wasn't hugely complex, so they wouldn't have saved anything. And it turned out that it wasn't the tech, it was the vendor fucking up and forgetting a couple important terms. And I got to bill a ton for the review anyway once I spoke to the client and the partner to tell them how the computer had fucked up. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:00 AM Author: hairraiser buff parlour I'm just having a little fun. Obviously doc review AI isn't making some sort game-theory of calculation for the litigation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489986) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489945) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: know-it-all diverse point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489950) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: smoky parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489985) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: purple big-titted church building trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490000) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490015) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: green fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490217) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: Mahogany Aromatic School Place Of Business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490367) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: idiotic hell jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490619) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 12:47 AM Author: Bat shit crazy haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35496450) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Frisky sex offender precisely
the same thing is happening in the accounting industry, albeit not at this same pace
it's going to reduce the need for accountants and lawyers. of course lawyers and accountants will still be needed, but far fewer of them i predict. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing i actually don't think it will reduce client costs that much because if lawyers are forced to really only do the highest value work, then rates will almost certainly increase to reflect that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489780) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: Frisky sex offender won't clients demand lower fees as a result of this?
how could they not?
and i don't see how this won't shrink the # of associates firms hire in the first place. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:40 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Same way biglaw raised rates during ITE despite a glut of lawyers looking for work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489840) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:42 AM Author: Sable Heaven If you consider 2007-2018 the "good 'ole days" of the legal profession, yikes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489852) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant No one is saying that it was, but rates were still going up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490031) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Sable Heaven Has the number of equity partners at V100 stayed constant? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490087) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Doubt it but again, that wasn't the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490103) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing It might shrink the number of lawyers but not the fees.
For example, let's say i'm working on a deal with a personal rate of $700 an hour. That rate is used for all my time, regardless of whether i'm doing technical deal structuring, redrafting a merger agreement, or reviewing contracts for CoC provisions or providing non-substantive edits to disclosure schedules. Clearly some of those hours are more difficult than others, and if i were to price discriminate I'd charge maybe $1,000 for the former and $500 for the latter.
Well, if I am no longer doing the more mindless work that needs to get done because software is doing it all, then i'm only providing clients with hours that are the most technical and difficult of all my hours. Accordingly, I might very well not want to do that work unless I am compensated at a higher rate. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Sable Heaven The problem is that every other lawyer has their soft hours cut, too. So the guy charging $1,500/hour suddenly has to take your $1000/hour "tough" work to fill his day. The same number of mouths with a shrunken supply of food is never going to be beneficial overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490006) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing I think it will just move a bunch of lawyers out of the business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490017) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: Sable Heaven The alligator is coming to eat everyone except me, who will benefit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490045) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Explain how you'll benefit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490064) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Sable Heaven I was trolling ironside's chutzpah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490071) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: startled house-broken genital piercing i didn't necessarily say i would be the one benefiting, nor did i say anyone would benefit -- i said certain lawyers would survive and would raise rates to reflect the more difficult total work they were being asked to accomplish. that still leaves a lot of lawyers who would need to leave the profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490250) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: Sable Heaven That's extremely dumb to think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489846) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Frisky sex offender the equity partners are not going to want to lower their PPP, so they will just hire fewer associates, get the software to do the grunt work, get the associates they do hire to do the higher level tasks, and somehow try to raise rates for their clients (good luck with that) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489862) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Sable Heaven "the equity partners are not going to want to lower their PPP" The power of positive thinking: in capitalism, if you want more, just will it more. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: know-it-all diverse point you are confused, more associates is how they RAISE PPP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489880) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: razzle-dazzle white pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35491250) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Flesh stubborn business firm hissy fit Odds Erika Buell has ever done substantive legal work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490002) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: Mischievous bawdyhouse pretty high, "Clinical Professor" usually means someone who has actually practiced, and teaches legal skills courses.
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: Bipolar water buffalo round eye I guess maybe lower ivy kike dipshits like you and DBG might not get to automatically coast at lower vault kike dipshit law firms for 5 yrs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490444) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:06 AM Author: Bat shit crazy haunted graveyard Oooooof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489681) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:21 AM Author: 180 range double fault takeaway: go NEET now voluntarily or go NEET later with a security escort to the front door lol fma |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:37 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks 1) 180 moniker op
2) is there a future in software automating lawyer shit? |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Frisky sex offender i think there's a future for software automating pretty much everything you can think of
the future of human labor is looking pretty bleak, it would seem |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: big preventive strike The whole point of technology is to eliminate labor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489844) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:41 AM Author: wine stimulating pit dysfunction "is there a future in software automating lawyer shit?"
lmao there's applications of category theory already that are about automating software automation |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Learn to code now, bros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489843) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:43 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks It’s too late. The only coders in 20 years will be Asians with PhDs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489857) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:45 AM Author: Frisky sex offender based on my experience talking to guys with machine learning masters and PHDs, this is pretty fucking correct
also there are a few nerdy white guys in the mix, along with a couple of latinos i've encountered. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks cr. lots of delusion around front-end code monkeys wrt this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490111) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:41 AM Author: wine stimulating pit dysfunction yeah ML is about the only thing that will exist in 15 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35496639) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: big preventive strike lol this is such a glib lawyerly comment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489885) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: free-loading comical stead cr I can't imagine AI making simple CRUD apps in 20 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489932) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: big preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489940) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks I’m a professional programmer, not a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489960) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: big preventive strike Then you're just flaming, you know better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490003) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490074) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks front-end monkeys are fucked. anyone without CS knowledge = fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490136) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant How the hell are you going to get rid of front-end dev work? You think AI is going to design simple and aesthetically pleasing UIs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490167) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks yeah you don't even know how a development team works.
developers don't "design" UI, Graphic Designers do. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Depends on the project. And yes, I do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490746) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks No, you don’t. lol every major software company has a dedicated graphic design team. Any team poor enough to force the developers to do UI (usually a shoestring startup working towards a prototype) obviously doesn’t care about the quality of the UI (which was your reasoning for why AI couldn’t replace programmers). 99% of programmers (yes including front end js) know nothing about design. The best UIs in the App Store were ALL designed by actual designers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490844) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Yeah, and if it is a big enough product launch it will go through all that. But a bunch of stuff ends up with prototypes, trials, etc. that doesn't go through all that and is run by a single team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35498662) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: black motley university Yeah, but someone has to be their boss. Asians never make it to management. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489947) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks This is true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489963) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Frisky sex offender good luck trying to learn machine learning in python! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489876) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks I have a CS degree and am getting another one, thankfully. Everyone else is fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489956) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Frisky sex offender what are you getting your degree in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490164) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks deciding between MSCS, Statistics and applied statistics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490204) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Frisky sex offender what is yoru ultimate end goal? we've talked before about AI shit, in case you don't remember (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490213) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks Not sure yet tbh. Probably some quanty phd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490321) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: idiotic hell jap python is easy. ML isn't all that hard either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489966) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant I hate it when people latch on to new trends like ML and assume if you don't do exactly that you will never find a job. Yeah, ML is important, but it won't be the only thing people work on in 20 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490084) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks yeah there will still be work in networking, operating systems, graphics, databases etc. all of which will require a high level of expertise. The zillions of monkeys coding javascript web apps will be gone tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490128) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant There were be a million app/script devs just like there are today. I'm working on a bunch of various AI related projects including Natural Language Processing. All awesome, useful stuff that will kill many low level jobs, but none of those are going to replace substantial numbers of coders (and in fact, it'll result in the creation of coding jobs). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490162) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks Have you actually used any of the UI frameworks? There are already cross platform tools that can design for several devices at once (Windows, iPhone, android). Only a matter of time until a drag and drop tool is developed for front end development that will allow UI Designers to make and deploy the UI with a visual tool (something like photoshop or balsamic). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490179) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant I get that, but this resembles the discussion that took place in programming when higher-level programming languages and better compilers/IDEs came out. IRL, sure, it made dev work much faster/easier but that in turn increased the possibilities which in turn made more work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490346) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: free-loading comical stead Didn't they say this 15 years ago with HTML/CSS and things like dreamweaver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490449) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant This too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490749) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks Those tools were shit tho. Look at Apple Storyboards. This is already happening. Designers can already glue together prototypes with swift and storyboards and its 95% visual drag and drop shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490857) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: wine stimulating pit dysfunction "Only a matter of time until a drag and drop tool is developed for front end development that will allow UI Designers to make and deploy the UI with a visual tool (something like photoshop or balsamic)."
to be fair this was funny to read since WYSIWYG editors have existed for decades |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Yeah, I remember when Dreamweaver came out everyone was panicking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35498519) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks most code monkeys wouldn't even begin to comprehend how to approach creating an original solution using ML (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490117) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant What percentage of devs are working on this now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490169) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks pretty low. but that back-up my point here. I was responding to his assertion that ML was "easy". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490189) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: idiotic hell jap i said it's not as hard as people make it to be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490226) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: wine stimulating pit dysfunction ML is a "write your ticket" field, there are more openings for ML doods than there are doods
but i'm talking ML guru shit |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 10:51 AM Author: French dopamine telephone Trannies fuct. BARRISTERS ljling at solicitttors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35489903) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:03 AM Author: vibrant cruise ship Funny thing is most of what shitlawyers do can’t be automated. Computers won’t take depositions or argue motions. They may help read shaniquias medical records, but they won’t be able to take over the rest. Of course, the automation of the car industry will reduce accidents and, as a result, reduce car wreck cases, but ppl will find another way to hurt/kill themselves.
Computers won’t write reports to insurance adjusters evaluating the ability of the lawyer on the other side or what the jury will lean towards at trial. Too unpredictable and the entire point of those reports is to blame the lawyer if the case goes awry so the adjuster doesn’t get in trouble |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Floppy aqua kitchen wagecucks "what the jury will lean towards at trial"
actually computers are doing this already |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: frum selfie address *BEEP BOOP* WE USE A PEREMPTORY CHALLENGE ON JUROR NUMBER 47 NATE ROTHSTEIN AND JUROR NUMBER 23 WHITAKER CHESTERFIELD *BEEP BOOP* JUROR NUMBER 31 LA-A JACKSON IS ACCEPTABLE |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage I’ve always figured the practice of law was totally fucked since the day i read about deep neural networks. soon it’ll be child’s play for AI to mark up transaction documents for different deal structures and client priorities. In fact interactions between programmable AI that produces a draft with optimal terms in seconds maybe replace wasteful human vs human negotiation
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: olive theatre therapy I would need to see the NDAs and the AI answers before I panic about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490067) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage Pretty soon a human being second guessing AI will sound laughable on it’s face. Like saying the earth is flat or something. Maybe the results aren’t perfect here but it’s capacity to process and learn from experience means it’ll improve exponentially quickly over time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490093) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: vibrant cruise ship Would love to see this thing deal w some transactional dispute over the name of the company or which president to keep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490110) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage These are never ever resolved by lawyers anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490121) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Painfully honest very tactful gas station immigrant Whereas humans can't possibly process and learn from experience.
In any event, AI/ML has several deficiencies that we suck at overcoming. The first is that it is inherently not creative. What it can do is look back to prior history and based on how it has seen the issue addressed it can select a solution. But create a totally new solution isn't in the cards. The second is that AI/ML sucks at understanding human socialization, which has a bunch of bizarre rules. Recall the AI that got shut down because it quickly became openly racist. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Sable Heaven creativity is flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490171) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage Hard to get beyond your “humans learn too” point because it makes me wonder if you’re familiar with recent developments in the field. This is like saying “humans can run too” when someone mentions moving at the speed of light.
I wouldn’t be tethered to what AI/ml can do today vs what’s they’ll likely do over time. Their development won’t actually be limited by human cognition
Overall I think the limits and strengths of the human mind is a horrible reference point |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater You will still have human decision makers who will insist on being briefed on the details of all major contracts. There’s no speed bonus involved if the commercial significance is too high, not is there a clear right answer on a hundred different hard calls in a significant contract. That means the outcome necessarily relies on senior execs being briefed and the software is at most a persuasive data point. It’s true this means the work currently being done can be covered by fewer people, but the software also creates the opportunity for several important agreements to be more thoroughly vetted and socialized within the company to improve the senior exec decision making process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490223) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: Sable Heaven If humans are worse than AI, anything that gives them confidence in their decision making over AI is inherently bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490227) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater (GOAT MFE of all times)
Just do argue to shareholders that fiduciaries duties were fulfilled by automated software without double checking any of the work product, Mr. CFO and Mr. General Counsel. I’m sure the board will understand. After all their key metric in measuring your performance on major transactions like a strategic acquisition is time to close. In that sense your job is no different than the guy taking orders in the McDonald’s drive through. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: Sable Heaven At a certain point, you can lay 100:1 odds on the chess bot against any human and still have a positive expected value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490305) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater If each move of the game required a human to review it and understand it in order to comply with law then sure, yes. Better chess results, but still employing a grand wizard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490433) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: Sable Heaven This "rubber stamp" position sounds highly coveted and more likely to go to well connected insiders than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490462) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater Nope I'm actually the guy doing the implementation of a similar type of contracts software at my megacorp. Looking forward to firing a bunch of boomer and Gen X contract managers who pull down low six figures doing the same repetitive task over and over, and pulling the ladder up to make sure no millennials get hired here ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490655) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater Any company paying a lawyer to hold the pen on a negotiation of a runrate commercial contract is fucking idiotic anyway. Most mid to large companies have staffs of contract managers that will be fucked by this, but any giant/complex and big dollar contract will require a human to handle it because some part of upper management will actually care to know the details. Good contracts managers will be kept to basically review the software’s work product and hassle the vendor about anything it fucks up/new features the customer wants/lowering license fees, etc. It’s the median contracts manager who has a job because she knows the state procurement regs for 5 states in the southwest who will get fucked by this the hardest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490194) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage 10 years ago I used a flip phone. Now my phone knows whether to unlock by reading my face. I think most itt assuming incremental changes are severely underrating what is on the horizon. I honestly think having humans do almost any kind of professional office work will eventually seem objectively silly before too long. like riding a horse instead of taking a plane to travel long distances or something. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Frisky sex offender i am starting to agree with your outlook on most professional service work
but that begs the question - what the fuck will all those displaced office workers do with their fucking time? |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage It’s always easy to see which jobs are at risk from new tech but impossible to predict the new jobs that get created. so maybe we’ll find something even if we can’t tell what it is yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490260) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: Coiffed principal's office It will almost assuredly require extremely high-IQ or the commodification of human orifices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490280) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Disgusting house bbw /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35498239) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Sable Heaven Changing boomer bedpans as home health aides. Robots still don't have fine motor skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490329) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Frisky sex offender LOL
dude i like you but you're always so fucking pessimistic about these kinds of things |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: Sable Heaven I just don't see how these robot productivity gains go to anyone but capital and the 150 IQ cognitive elite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490439) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage Why do you think it’s necessarily the cognitive elite that captures the benefits of automation and AI if we’re essentially talking about devaluing human cognition. It’s not like Stephen hawking types are the guys running companies or managing processes.
Very hard to say who gains and losses at this point imo |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Sable Heaven Someone will have to program this AI before it become sentient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490589) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage It’ll basically cease relying on much human input before too long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490614) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: Sable Heaven Oh, please. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490618) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:19 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage “Wrong because that sounds absurd” is the worst argument possible. NVIDIA has a driverless car that taught itself to drive by watching human drivers respond to various stimuli for a while and then figuring the rest out for itself. It’s become so complicated it’s engineers can’t even fully explain why it does what it does (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490663) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Sable Heaven It's so revolutionary it hasn't seen the light of day! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490675) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage Nah it has dude. Google around I’m too lazy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490677) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/05/06/self-driving-cars-3/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490697) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Frisky sex offender the person who wins in these things aren't always the technical talent, but the guys who can market all of this AI shit to companies across the globe
how are those PHDs who are working on this shit going to market and sell this shit to companies?
whoever can sell and market AI services is who wins, i think. not necessarily the technical talent. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Sable Heaven (Eduardo Savarin in 2004) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490584) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: Frisky sex offender hey he still is a billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490617) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: grizzly cumskin "so maybe we’ll find something even if we can’t tell what it is yet."
Has there ever been a time in human history in which older workers successfully transitioned en masse to equal value or higher value work? |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:46 AM Author: wine stimulating pit dysfunction it's really depressing that the "hope" in your comment when we don't need labor anymore is that we will find more drudgery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35496656) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: green fortuitous meteor What will (((they))) do with all the unemployed proles then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490228) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater You are not understanding the distinction between rote, standardized tasks and major tasks with the potential to cause a huge problem for the business. The former will all become digitized/automated, you’re absolutely right about that. The latter necessarily have to be run through fiduciaries to shareholders and those fiduciaries can’t just say “welp I’m off the hook to make this call because the software does it now.” You would have to revise the basic tenets of all of the Anglo-American commercial legal tradition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490246) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage As a guy who has done a bunch of fairness opinions, I can absolutely foresee a world where NOT having this process automated becomes a breach of fiduciary duty. Lmao at defending some retarded analyst’s error in a DCF when finance Alexa could’ve done prepared the same analysis perfectly in under 5 minutes.
I’m perfectly aware of the distinction between rote and more thought intensive work. I’m telling you deep neural networks will eventually laugh at this distinction before too long. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Low-t jet puppy theater No you’re still not getting it, and LOL at the suggestion that fairness opinions are somehow not rote. The retarded analyst gets replaced doing a DCF. But for anything implicating a senior exec’s duities as a fiduciary “the software says so” won’t be an acceptable answer. It is likely to become a very persuasive point in any discussion of how to proceed, but there are still going to be humans who have to understand the software’s reasoning as well as the result it reached in order to fulfill their legal obligations. That same process will also be available to be leveraged for any decision where the significance of the impact outweighs the value of a shorter time to close, so one of the key effects of the software is expanding the zone of issues that top senior execs have available for review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490406) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 9:48 PM Author: Onyx National (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35495131) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: Frisky sex offender if you think this is bad, think about how i feel. i am in an industry that absolutely will get automated (accounting) in my lifetime, as almost all of an accountant's daily tasks are things that are fairly routine and repetitive.
i feel bad for a lot of my coworkers and other people in the industry who don't see what's coming. accounting is going to be even more fucked than law, because so much of what we do is routine and can be easily learned by an algorithm |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: free-loading comical stead the transition period will be hard but after that we will all be NEETs. In the meantime get a house in the woods, gold, ammo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490442) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage OOF. If it makes you feel better, even portfolio managers at mega pe and (especially) hedge fends aren’t that much better off. Investing and portfolio management are low hanging fruit too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490443) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: fighting obsidian indian lodge persian this doesn't really scare me. Come talk to me when businesses agree to a form standard credit agreement or purchase agreement to govern all transactions or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490428) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: vivacious elite corner messiness “Competitors were given four hours to review five non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) and identify 30 legal issues, including arbitration, confidentiality of relationship, and indemnification. They were scored by how accurately they identified each issue. ”
What does this mean? How were they judged? Any idiot can identify these issues in a contract |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: grizzly cumskin Yeah, it's hard to even know what they're talking about.
Were they asked, "Does this agreement contain an arbitration provision?"
Were they asked to highlight the arbitration provision?
Something else? |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: Heady main people Call me when they develop a litigatorbot.
No seriously call me, because I would love if one of these metal fuckers took my job |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: magenta mood Company looked at adding these for certain products. It'd be good for standardized contracts for (at least) the first passing/review. Didn't read the article but interested in seeing if AI can figure out when something is essentially the same and how a notwithstanding clause fucks up everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490660) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: electric fluffy boistinker foreskin State of the art neural networks are quite close to if not already beyond humans in their ability to compress English language. If you have highly compressed representations of sentences or documents, you can start to learn how to do complicated inference tasks, like comparison of document meanings. Considering that a lot of the progress has been in the last two years, I imagine these legal programs lag beyond what the best machine learning tech can do now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490829) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:19 PM Author: Frisky sex offender how will this have an impact on in-house counsel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490668) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: vivacious elite corner messiness “Competitors were given four hours to review five non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) and identify 30 legal issues, including arbitration, confidentiality of relationship, and indemnification. They were scored by how accurately they identified each issue.” If you don’t know how to spot these issues, you’re fuct. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: magenta mood In-house attorneys that are just glorified document negotiators are in trouble. Those that do product development and such should be ok (at least for the near future). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35491668) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: insane gaming laptop Call me when AI can issue spot a credit agreement or SPA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35490682) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: grizzly cumskin "identify 30 legal issues"
What does that even mean?
What was the precise task? |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Mischievous bawdyhouse (in house attorney quizzically reviewing my latest billing entry) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35491980) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: know-it-all diverse point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35492009) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: purple big-titted church building trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35492968) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: Heady main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35492976) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 8:39 PM Author: thriller disturbing dilemma halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35494564) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 7:27 AM Author: Saffron mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35496999) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 9:38 AM Author: Cerebral Milky Location Travel Guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497351) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 2:18 AM Author: Razzle blue indirect expression If you want a sense of what percentage of the capabilities of AI people will tap 10 years from now, take a look at what people are doing on their phones and computers today.
1. Important guy needs a doc - does he use the search function in his email or the advanced document management system? Nope - fire off an email to a few highly-paid professionals: "plz send me the doc".
2. Time to draft a merger agreement - pull up the standard template with fixed organization and then select key provisions from the comprehensive database based on client needs and strategic considerations? Nope - open last agreement for same client and two random precedents, start copying and pasting until you have an incomprehensible mish-mash that will show enough redlining to look like a solid amount of work, but not so much redlining that it looks like you ignored the client's precedent. Send this to senior lawyer, who handwrites miscellaneous thoughts in the margin: ("don't we have another precedent for this provision - think maybe it was the XYZ deal - or something else for client ABC - ask Steve") ("did you send this IP rep to the IP team?") ("doesn't work") (*illegible scrawl*). After a few rounds of this process, send draft and an email with a list of questions for the client. Have a conference call on which the client hasn't read anything and alternates vague instructions, yelling at people, and taking other calls.
3. Raising a private fund, we need investors to answer 50 technical questions with yes/no or brief answers. Do we have an agreed template for this process (which is basically the same for all funds and investors)? Nope. Do we have a website form to solicit answers? Nope. Do we use a database to compile answers? Nope. Do we save answers that an investor submits to Fund A in a way where the investor can easily use the same answers for Fund B? Nope. We send the investor a lightly customized PDF for the fund in question, which he will likely print and fill out haphazardly with a pen, occasionally skipping a page, and then scan on the world's worst scanner and email back (the file will be 50 MB but still illegible in places). A team of highly-paid professionals will review the draft and send comments. In response, the investor will revise with a different color pen. After a few rounds of this process, one of the highly-paid professionals will enter the final information into a spreadsheet by hand.
Until we replace all the humans with AI, the remaining humans in the system will create plenty of work for one another. And once we complete the replacement, we will probably have better things to worry about than legal employment (or not, maybe our AI overlords will be great bosses - in any case, they'll probably be better than boomers). |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 7:27 AM Author: Saffron mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497001) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 2:29 AM Author: Bespoke Office The case for AI replacing lawyers is way overblown.
1) Unlike say medicine or accounting, people are going to keep paying lawyers to read and understand boring agreements no one else wants to read.
2) What does the AI even do? Like the people who think its going to replace contract attorneys seem to think lawyers just write contracts from scratch or some shit. But really both sides are just tweaking forms anyway. So even if the AI conjures up its own form, someone still needs to go through and say "oh there is going to be X reserved" "oh Y assignment has to be permitted" - there just isn't a lot of benefit to outsourcing it to computers because you'd just have to tell the computers all this shit anyway - and then sophisticated clients would still want to tweak it for shits and giggles. |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: costumed half-breed old irish cottage So basically all I read here is “contrary to all of human history, inertia and regulatory capture will keep legal fees grossly inflated in the face of groundbreaking and exponentially improving technology. Also I don’t understand the full scope of machine learning’s potential capabilities and their implications for the profession but lemme opine nevertheless.”
This conversation would’ve been so, so much better had everyone taken the time to read the wiki on deep learning and appreciated the fact legal services are universally viewed as a grossly expensive cost center. A profession based on the logical application of formal rules and precedents is UNIQUELY tailored for ass rape by artificial intelligence. And I assure you corporate managers will gleefully shred legal spending once technology affords them the chance to do so
Other people are leaning hard as fuck on the idea that legal rules requiring standards of diligence and knowledge will protect the grossly inefficient system of unnecessary paper pushing in the face of objectively superior technology for doing pretty much all of the work currently done by transactional lawyers. This is adorably nieve - I think it’s seems far, far more likely that NOT utilizing clearly superior technology to the extent possible becomes a greater source of legal risk than preserving an increasingly obsolete system of human paper pushing.
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Date: February 27th, 2018 3:16 AM Author: glassy karate Has anyone read the study? The AI used the equivalent of the microsoft word synonym function to categorize each term in the document. Cluster of synonyms related to confidentiality = "this is the confidentiality term" That is the extent of the 'issue spotting' |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: boyish turdskin native Doesn't speak much to the value of law school then, does it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497065) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: olive theatre therapy That can't be true. People in this thread have assured us that AI is only years away from becoming perfect, self-teaching legal experts, and that the Constitution will be amended to replace Supreme Court justices with Watson. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497427) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: beady-eyed filthpig den lmao lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35498668) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 7:55 AM Author: Marvelous nowag In my new job I basically oversee two dozen programs to automate legal and trade clearance tasks. Half the shit we are automating is stuff like sending lawyers emails about statutory filing deadlines related to clearing house shit. Zero of the stuff we are automating will cost one lawyer a job. It will cost paralegals and secretaries jobs since shit like calendaring shit and changing the dates on last years shareholder consents to reuse them this year will now be done by software. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497029) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: boyish turdskin native That's interesting. Of course nobody believes anything you have to say about anything, but thanks for the example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497069) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: purple big-titted church building trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35497701) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: alcoholic crackhouse hairy legs And even this is overrated - you ever try creating a letter in word? Takes fifteen minutes to wrangle the appropriate fields so you don't have to mannually type and position "yours truly".
The software will no doubt have fourteen fields that need to import information from twelve different databases just to be able to say <field error! consult!##usermanual> |
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Date: March 3rd, 2018 10:04 AM Author: Odious offensive tanning salon keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35526170) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Frisky sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904283&forum_id=2#35562197) |