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US Marines Corp (2018) vs. Nazi Germany, USSR, and Japan (1942). No nukes
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur Who wins and how long? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503650) |
Date: February 28th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: motley doctorate whose turf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503659) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:34 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur War is imminent. Who strikes and where. Who wins and how long? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503665) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine The 1942 countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503662) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Mint point “We no have 10 million troop to send to death before victory. not possible to win” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503676) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:38 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine USMC has less than 200k active soldiers. If you throw in reserves you're at less than 250k soldiers. Against millions of well-trained troops from the greatest generation. They would get curb stomped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503699) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:40 AM Author: Mint point those apes wouldn’t know what fuckin hit em (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503717) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:42 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine The Marines? I agree. Especially since in 1942 all 3 of those armies were fighting against real enemies while the USMC has never faced a real enemy in the lifetime of any active soldiers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503724) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:43 AM Author: Mint point Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503728) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:47 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine I get a kick out of ex-Marines. You guys are the ultimate delusional kool-aid drinkers. Any stupid hypo you guys think you win regardless of how obviously outmatched you actually are.
US Marines vs. rest of the US military? Ooh Rah! Those pussies will never know what hit 'em! (makes up 6% of the military budget)
US Marines vs. rest of the fucking world? Best of the best!
You would think you actually were the Spartans in 300. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 9:08 AM Author: sooty new version yeah because Marines are 180 as fuck bro chill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504651) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine lolno. Air Force is chill. Marines are insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505309) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:08 PM Author: sooty new version I didn't say they were "chill". I have met a lot of chill Marines but they're not supposed to be chill, they're supposed to be tough as nails patriot badasses. I wouldn't expect a 5'5" Russian Jew to understand though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508935) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Are they supposed to be totally delusional American equivalent to Vatniks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508945) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:11 PM Author: sooty new version they're some of the best Americans. 180 bros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508950) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine So that's a yes?
Seriously, I love how Americans think a lot of this shit is unique to America. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: sooty new version U.S. Marines are unique among Americans. They're some of our best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509090) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:43 PM Author: Lilac angry locale azn this
they literally make their commandant get certified once a year as a marskman; Petraeus never fired a weapon past captain and became CENTCOM commander |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:05 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine And the point of that is what, exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510463) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:12 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond Because every Marine is a Rifleman, you pogue-ass idiottt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510504) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Right, which is pointless. The Army is 100% right and people should focus on their specialty, not on "ooh rah" nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510517) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:23 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond LOL you're an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510583) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: tantric citrine forum hunting ground normally i like you tmf but you really need to delete ur account
i'd say grow a beard but we know you can only do that patchy puby shit |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 1:39 AM Author: Topaz double fault hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35511980) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Mint point cr
tmf is unhinged itt |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine I'm not the delusional one that is trying to present the USMC as invincible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505844) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:34 AM Author: Mint point well we would obviously need the Navy but we would crush them. aircraft range is vastly improved so we could avoid taking so many islands that cost us dearly in the Pacific and we could cut supply lines of the Germans to starve them before having to meet them head on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503668) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur No Navy in hypo. Perhaps that was intentional? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503671) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:36 AM Author: Mint point ok so we can’t leave conus thus we don’t win
great hypo brother |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:37 AM Author: motley doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503689) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:44 AM Author: learning disabled primrose boltzmann lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503731) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 9:03 AM Author: Cerebral ivory preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504625) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:34 AM Author: razzle-dazzle umber plaza cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505055) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: galvanic azure travel guidebook Dumb ass lawyers not understanding how logistics win wars, news at 11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505252) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Arousing Becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505599) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: marvelous walnut hospital giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509712) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:11 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond Ospreys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509732) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:36 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine The problem is that you have no air force (Marines have some planes but not enough), no Navy, no Army, etc. Just USMC. Against millions of really good troops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503677) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:40 AM Author: Mint point umm we actually do have an air force. we wouldn’t need bombers cuz the precision is so much better that we would send their troops into a panic anytime we engaged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503713) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:41 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine We're not talking modern Japan and Germany here. We're talking their greatest gen. These people died where they stood against overwhelming odds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503718) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Mint point Jesus Christ man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503729) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:49 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Sorry, USMC is impressive for what it is, but it is a product of the current times. They would be hopelessly outmatched by the quality of soldiers of those armies, especially the elite units. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503751) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy gas station It’s hard to tell if you are flaming or just retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509767) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:04 AM Author: stimulating whorehouse yeah a little targeted air striking will definitely stop the machinations of a globally aspiring empire in the age of war blimps, mustard gas, gatling guns, and trench warfare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504189) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy gas station (Guy who thinks WWI was fought in 1942) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509774) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:25 AM Author: stimulating whorehouse same generation, retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512113) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 5:38 AM Author: Bat-shit-crazy gas station You seem dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512504) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:07 AM Author: talented trust fund site I'm pretty sure Marine F/A-18's would be sufficient.
*meant to reply to TMF |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: violent sadistic halford hominid They would. The problem is that they require naval assets to use outside of the United States. The Marines don’t have their own carriers or even, as I understand it, their own refueling/tanker squadrons.
It’s kind of a stupid hypo for that reason. The modern Marine Corps could probably defend the homeland alone in that scenario but logistically there’s just no way to move them around and keep them supplied without the Navy. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond You seem like you don't know what you're talking about.
http://www.1stmaw.marines.mil/Subordinate-Units/Marine-Aircraft-Group-12/VMGR-152/ http://www.mag14.marines.mil/MAG-14-Units/VMGR-252/ http://www.3rdmaw.marines.mil/Units/MAG-11/VMGR-352/ http://www.marforres.marines.mil/Major-Subordinate-Commands/4th-Marine-Aircraft-Wing/Marine-Aircraft-Group-49/Marine-Aerial-Refueler-Transport-Squadron-452/ |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine They don't have enough of them to hold off millions of soldiers. That's in addition to the airfield or carrier question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505546) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:48 AM Author: Alcoholic Judgmental Trump Supporter Parlor ? USMC continuously gets PWNed by far smaller contingents of hajis with zero military training. LJL at being outmanned 200 to 1 by dudes raised in the 1920s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503743) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:54 AM Author: Mint point ?
in Fallujah the Marines lost like 100 guys and killed like 2000
nice try though |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:58 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Fighting against some of the worst soldiers in the world fighting with barely functioning ammo. But ok, let's keep those numbers for our purposes. A kill to death ratio of 20:1 means that for 200k troops they will kill 4 million troops before all dying. Except, the combined armies of the USSR, Germany and Japan will have way more than that. As a result, they STILL win and the Marines lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503773) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:59 AM Author: Mint point you’re out of your element (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503780) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 1:00 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Great non-responsive answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503784) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 1:02 AM Author: Mint point (guy who assumes he’s worth responding to) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503799) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 1:05 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine It is ok, it really was a hopeless hypo. I get that you guys have to believe that you can beat ANYONE ANYWHERE ANYTIME ooh rah! It is just laughably silly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503811) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505155) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: talented trust fund site (guy who thinks that would be the same as fighting a conventional battle in W.Europe) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504869) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Yeah, those armies aren't any good at that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505491) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Rusted Piazza Community Account Out of 10,000 US troops who went into Fallujah, 600 were killed or wounded. Those are some grim numbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505393) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine And again, they were up against an objectively awful army, vs. being up against some of the best soldiers in the world that would vastly outnumber them by many times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505839) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond You seem to have a very odd view of which enemy is harder to fight. Hint: It's the one that blends into the civilian population and uses human shields. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509773) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 2:56 AM Author: Alcoholic Judgmental Trump Supporter Parlor ? Yeah and 1900 of those were civilians who happened to be “fighting.” I’ll bet the number of coalition soldiers outnumbered the actual haji fighters by five to one. Now reverse that and multiply by 50. Sorry about your tiny pink “riflemen” millenials getting PWNed by SS troops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504177) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine The three countries would probably have more elite troops than the Marines would have total in this scenario. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505503) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 1:01 AM Author: federal rigpig dilemma USMC has access to modern aircraft, which 1942 forces could never shoot down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503796) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 1:03 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine They wouldn't be able to defend their airfields and they wouldn't have enough aircraft to really hold the armies off. And helis could still be shot down even with 1942 tech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503806) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond Why couldn't the airfields be defended? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509777) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:18 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy gas station They would easily defend their airfields. Wtf is your dumbass spouting ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509789) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:08 AM Author: aquamarine naked tank heaven Uh what happens when the USMC tries to occupy enemy territory and gets pwned by insurgency because they're fucking tiny?
Just do occupy the USSR with 200,000 troops. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:19 AM Author: Histrionic wine main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504519) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:02 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur this is hilarious for some reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504846) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: violent sadistic halford hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505526) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505551) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: marvelous walnut hospital giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509721) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Vivacious Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35670624) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:28 AM Author: Pink contagious range foreskin Stupid hypo. You realize how easy it would be to envelop 200,000 Marines? Even if they could break through, the Germans/Russians/Japanese would have enough depth to envelop them again, leading to 200,000 Marine deaths within a few weeks/months.
The Marines also lack experience and training in this type of warfare, since they've almost exclusively fought in urban environments for the past four decades. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:39 AM Author: Provocative gay cruise ship op = dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504552) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur yeah man, op is dumb but there are dumb RAH RAH RAH USA GO MARINES BLOW SHIT UP trumptards in this thread saying that USMC would win. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504854) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 9:12 AM Author: Mint point hypo is dumb but so is this reply. the marine corps has an amazing amount of firepower relative to those units, which far outweighs the benefits the enemy would have based on pure numbers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504666) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:51 PM Author: Pink contagious range foreskin All that firepower is prefaced on logistics and a constant supplies. A 200,000 fighting force cannot march into another country and maintain offensive tempo while protecting its line of supplies. They either break through an enemy encirclement only to get further away from their supplies, or they remain encircled and wither and die.
You have have 500,000 Navy SEALs and they still would be defeated because they cannot guarantee their supplies.
The Marines would get slaughtered. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: federal rigpig dilemma Why can't the USMC use its superior firepower and air superiority to defend the US mainland until the USMC can increase its numbers by recruiting/conscription to a million or so? Hypo doesn't say USMC can't keep recruiting and training new soliders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504872) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:27 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur Just do recruit everyone in the Army and Navy. Oh, and have them bring their weapons and ships. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505000) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Then Germany, Japan and Russia send their tech back in time and... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505558) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine This would kill the hypo. Of course they would win then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505480) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: Mind-boggling goal in life philosopher-king Even without navy existing USMC harriers, attack helicopters and however many STOVL F-35s are available to launch from naval air stations, light carriers and amphibious assault ships would absolutely decimate enemy ground forces and equipment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505326) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:01 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine Do you guys realize that numbers matter here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508898) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 1:04 AM Author: Mind-boggling goal in life philosopher-king jfc TMF we all know you're dumb but some days you really just make a normal IQmo's head spin.
no one's saying numbers *don't* matter, but dipshits like you trying to "win" by arguing USMC couldn't equal allies' achievements if they time-warped into WWII as it *was* are displaying remarkably low IQ and RC fail of the OP.
the 2018 Marines don't have to fight the battle of the bulge or midway. they don't have to route italy or storm normandy on the way to liberating vichy france. they don't have to fight a european war on eastern and western fronts or successfully press towards the shadow of moscow, nor must they expel germany from poland. indeed if you deign to read the OP, 1942 russia and germany are on the SAME SIDE.
they're fighting the USMC at 2018 strength sans nukes. in *that* scenario, 2018 Marines with their (as compared to TTT ruskie/jap) incomprehensible force projection, sea power, air power, penetrators, and air superiority fighters, would literally firebomb any city they felt like with total impunity, while obliterating any hostile seacraft or aircraft before it got within 500 miles of US coastline.
sure, 250,000 marines might not be capable of occupying and holding all of germany, russia, and japan simultaneously, but their airpower/firepower could make vast swaths of enemy territory un-defendable and area denial weapons would make equally large chunks uninhabitable. it's always going to be hard for a foreign expeditionary force to completely occupy a distant land, but marines could easily do targeted decapitation strikes dropping enough manpower and heavy artillery with pinpoint accuracy to fell any adversary's capitol. after that it's just a matter of using air superiority to form a perimeter around moscow or tokyo, and mow down all forces turning around and slouching towards the former seat of power like lambs to slaughter. at that point psychological demoralization, fatigue, and unthinkable troop losses on a daily basis ensure that even non-US fags fight to some sort of "stalemate" the reality is that europe and asia will never recover.
TL;DR Jap Kikes, Kraut Kikes and Commie Kikes would stand zero chance of "defeating" the US and our boys would disembowel fifteen of them for every man we lost.
the hypo is 2018 USMC v. |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 10:05 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine "TL;DR Jap Kikes, Kraut Kikes and Commie Kikes would stand zero chance of "defeating" the US and our boys would disembowel fifteen of them for every man we lost."
And as I demonstrated, even if it were 20:1 the USMC would still lose. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:09 PM Author: lemon brunch roommate They could probably defend the USA, just by using their mini-carriers and F18s. Those fast enough and fly high enough to absolutely pwn any invasion attempt.
But they'd have the same problem that the Wehrmacht had against the Subhuman slav soviets, you take too much territory and supply lines get long, and they start picking you off. Their ~200 F18's can only fly so many sorties--even if you have gave them unlimited payloads. If they only have the bombs they already have, no fucking chance.
They might be able to beat the Germans in France if the Germans tried to fight a big battle. But if the Germans just decided to dig into Paris, they could turn it into a Stalingrad like battle. Marines going street to street would fare little better than WWII units.
Same goes for battles like Iwo Jima. Our bombing would be more precise, but having to take the island yard by yard would have similar causalities.
It took 25k marines to clear 3,000 insurgents in Fallujah (fucking arabs--aka worst soldiers in the world). And they had ~700 causalities.
Germans, Soviets and Japanese could turn every midsized city in Europe into Fallujah X 10. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine They're also smart with excellent commanders and would adapt. They would quickly realize that their goal is to make Americans sacrifice soldiers to win ground. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508958) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:11 PM Author: Lascivious idea he suggested Op is meaningless if the purpose is actual occupation. As a poster said above, its about numbers at that point or atomic weapons. Assume op means battlefield fight a la Kursk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509734) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:21 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond Yeah, I forgot that we turned France and Bavaria into our next two states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509809) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 1:54 AM Author: Mind-boggling goal in life philosopher-king "They're also smart with excellent commanders and would adapt." -- subhuman ruskie slav who was smart ... formed PLAN ... copped random TTT "public ivy" certificate in fake STEM and promptly flew nowhere near his stated goal of going BACK 2 BIGLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512029) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 10:01 AM Author: concupiscible claret hall dopamine "TTT "public ivy" certificate in fake STEM"
lolwut? I don't have any "certificates" from universities and have never graduated from any public university for any degree. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: Lascivious idea he suggested Assuming occupancy isn’t a requirement and the op can be modified for toe to toe combat, the marines have 403 m1A1s. Game, set, match.
That plus the air power. No 1941 army could stand up to that onslaught. |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:34 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond If all current Marines, materiel, supplies, and installations were magically transported this instant to the year 1942, with nothing changing except the year (and Marines embarked on Naval vessels transported to the nearest Marine installation), the Marines would crush the Nazis and Japan within a week.
We would drop a couple JDAMs on the Imperial Palace this very evening, flying out of Okinawa, and they would never know what hit them. After all, an entire fucking MEF materializing on an island within Japanese territory is a pretty fucking awesome element of surprise.
Germany would fall shortly afterwards. Jet fighters would crush the Luftwaffe; Germany's then-experimental first-generation Me-262 is laughable in comparison. Once Hitler caught wind of super-fast jet fighters running circles around his best tactical advantage, he'd swallow his cyanide pill and be done with it. We'd have to use commercial freight to get us to the UK without the Navy, but from there it's easily doable.
The USSR is a little trickier. I'd recommend we do a long-range insertion by Osprey around the Winter Palace and hold Stalin under siege with tanks and infantry (defensive fires provided by a couple arty batteries) until he agrees to a ceasefire where we pull all U.S. Marines out of eastern europe.
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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:41 PM Author: Lilac angry locale azn This
Marines had maybe half a million troops in ww2 and still mopped the floor with the Japanese
F-35s and Hercules would put the fear of God into Germany |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 9:02 PM Author: Slate exciting generalized bond Hercs FTW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510017) |
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Date: February 28th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: Big mood gaming laptop the marines will have generals who literally studied all the major WWII battles and know almost everything about the enemy, while the enemy will shortly be in the dark ages using carrier pigeons for communications while their most important and sensitive targets are hit from the air in order of importance.
there is no way i can see the Marines not adapting quickly to the situation and winning via an air war.
they obviously can't take large swaths of territory, but can presumably defend strategic airbases with modern radar, artillery, tanks, drones, anti-aircraft weaponry. From these bases they can launch ceaseless air attacks.
marine aircraft should be invulnerable.
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Date: March 1st, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Vivacious Voyeur winner winner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35511569) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 1:18 AM Author: Mind-boggling goal in life philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35511901) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 5:47 AM Author: Mint point very good
also the hypo does not say that we would not have our allies still in the fight with us. and maybe the Marines would do us all a favor and let the germans bleed the russians a bit longer so that the ancestors of are reptile/tmf/mandy would have been killed, too |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 11:01 PM Author: Vivacious Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35518136) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 1:46 AM Author: Topaz double fault hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512005) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Ocher Electric Trailer Park This is laughable. You don't win anything from the air, think desert storm. The payload delivered on Nazi Germany since 1943 was 10000x what marines could do and the Germans fought 2 more years through that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35540311) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:00 AM Author: Tan slimy lay I'm pretty sure the marines could wipe out the leadership of each enemy country with an airstrike in one day.
Assuming we are not being shitheads about things like "Marines can't refuel their planes without the navy" then the Marines win easily. They would not be able to occupy a foreign country, but they could cripple any country with ease. |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:03 AM Author: Mind-boggling goal in life philosopher-king this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512055) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 2:13 AM Author: aquamarine naked tank heaven And if the leadership simply goes into hiding? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512076) |
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Date: March 5th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: Vivacious Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35540086) |