US Marines vs. rest of the US military? Ooh Rah! Those pussies will never know what hit 'em! (makes up 6% of the military budget)

US Marines vs. rest of the fucking world? Best of the best!

You would think you actually were the Spartans in 300.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503739)

Seriously, I love how Americans think a lot of this shit is unique to America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508963)

they literally make their commandant get certified once a year as a marskman; Petraeus never fired a weapon past captain and became CENTCOM commander

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509923)

i'd say grow a beard but we know you can only do that patchy puby shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35540113)

tmf is unhinged itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505829)

great hypo brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503686)

*meant to reply to TMF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504863)

It’s kind of a stupid hypo for that reason. The modern Marine Corps could probably defend the homeland alone in that scenario but logistically there’s just no way to move them around and keep them supplied without the Navy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35505495)

http://www.1stmaw.marines.mil/Subordinate-Units/Marine-Aircraft-Group-12/VMGR-152/

http://www.mag14.marines.mil/MAG-14-Units/VMGR-252/

http://www.3rdmaw.marines.mil/Units/MAG-11/VMGR-352/

http://www.marforres.marines.mil/Major-Subordinate-Commands/4th-Marine-Aircraft-Wing/Marine-Aircraft-Group-49/Marine-Aerial-Refueler-Transport-Squadron-452/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509742)

in Fallujah the Marines lost like 100 guys and killed like 2000

nice try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35503760)

Just do occupy the USSR with 200,000 troops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504195)

The Marines also lack experience and training in this type of warfare, since they've almost exclusively fought in urban environments for the past four decades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35504536)

You have have 500,000 Navy SEALs and they still would be defeated because they cannot guarantee their supplies.

The Marines would get slaughtered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508828)

no one's saying numbers *don't* matter, but dipshits like you trying to "win" by arguing USMC couldn't equal allies' achievements if they time-warped into WWII as it *was* are displaying remarkably low IQ and RC fail of the OP.

the 2018 Marines don't have to fight the battle of the bulge or midway. they don't have to route italy or storm normandy on the way to liberating vichy france. they don't have to fight a european war on eastern and western fronts or successfully press towards the shadow of moscow, nor must they expel germany from poland. indeed if you deign to read the OP, 1942 russia and germany are on the SAME SIDE.

they're fighting the USMC at 2018 strength sans nukes. in *that* scenario, 2018 Marines with their (as compared to TTT ruskie/jap) incomprehensible force projection, sea power, air power, penetrators, and air superiority fighters, would literally firebomb any city they felt like with total impunity, while obliterating any hostile seacraft or aircraft before it got within 500 miles of US coastline.

sure, 250,000 marines might not be capable of occupying and holding all of germany, russia, and japan simultaneously, but their airpower/firepower could make vast swaths of enemy territory un-defendable and area denial weapons would make equally large chunks uninhabitable. it's always going to be hard for a foreign expeditionary force to completely occupy a distant land, but marines could easily do targeted decapitation strikes dropping enough manpower and heavy artillery with pinpoint accuracy to fell any adversary's capitol. after that it's just a matter of using air superiority to form a perimeter around moscow or tokyo, and mow down all forces turning around and slouching towards the former seat of power like lambs to slaughter. at that point psychological demoralization, fatigue, and unthinkable troop losses on a daily basis ensure that even non-US fags fight to some sort of "stalemate" the reality is that europe and asia will never recover.

TL;DR Jap Kikes, Kraut Kikes and Commie Kikes would stand zero chance of "defeating" the US and our boys would disembowel fifteen of them for every man we lost.

the hypo is 2018 USMC v.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35511843)

And as I demonstrated, even if it were 20:1 the USMC would still lose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35513357)

But they'd have the same problem that the Wehrmacht had against the Subhuman slav soviets, you take too much territory and supply lines get long, and they start picking you off. Their ~200 F18's can only fly so many sorties--even if you have gave them unlimited payloads. If they only have the bombs they already have, no fucking chance.

They might be able to beat the Germans in France if the Germans tried to fight a big battle. But if the Germans just decided to dig into Paris, they could turn it into a Stalingrad like battle. Marines going street to street would fare little better than WWII units.

Same goes for battles like Iwo Jima. Our bombing would be more precise, but having to take the island yard by yard would have similar causalities.

It took 25k marines to clear 3,000 insurgents in Fallujah (fucking arabs--aka worst soldiers in the world). And they had ~700 causalities.

Germans, Soviets and Japanese could turn every midsized city in Europe into Fallujah X 10.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35508943)

lolwut? I don't have any "certificates" from universities and have never graduated from any public university for any degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35513342)

That plus the air power. No 1941 army could stand up to that onslaught.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509706)

We would drop a couple JDAMs on the Imperial Palace this very evening, flying out of Okinawa, and they would never know what hit them. After all, an entire fucking MEF materializing on an island within Japanese territory is a pretty fucking awesome element of surprise.

Germany would fall shortly afterwards. Jet fighters would crush the Luftwaffe; Germany's then-experimental first-generation Me-262 is laughable in comparison. Once Hitler caught wind of super-fast jet fighters running circles around his best tactical advantage, he'd swallow his cyanide pill and be done with it. We'd have to use commercial freight to get us to the UK without the Navy, but from there it's easily doable.

The USSR is a little trickier. I'd recommend we do a long-range insertion by Osprey around the Winter Palace and hold Stalin under siege with tanks and infantry (defensive fires provided by a couple arty batteries) until he agrees to a ceasefire where we pull all U.S. Marines out of eastern europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509883)

Marines had maybe half a million troops in ww2 and still mopped the floor with the Japanese

F-35s and Hercules would put the fear of God into Germany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35509918)

there is no way i can see the Marines not adapting quickly to the situation and winning via an air war.

they obviously can't take large swaths of territory, but can presumably defend strategic airbases with modern radar, artillery, tanks, drones, anti-aircraft weaponry. From these bases they can launch ceaseless air attacks.

marine aircraft should be invulnerable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35510713)

also the hypo does not say that we would not have our allies still in the fight with us. and maybe the Marines would do us all a favor and let the germans bleed the russians a bit longer so that the ancestors of are reptile/tmf/mandy would have been killed, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512511)

Assuming we are not being shitheads about things like "Marines can't refuel their planes without the navy" then the Marines win easily. They would not be able to occupy a foreign country, but they could cripple any country with ease.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906059&forum_id=2#35512048)