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Brian Leiter on "the half educated tech elite"

On the "half-educated tech elite" Now mathemati...
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so cr. shitlibs led demonstrations at Stanford where they ac...
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my comment no longer makes sense considering OP is fake news
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hmm this dude is a giant faggit but he makes sense here
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do you have a link to that other quote by him from a while a...
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it is, those are professions, not SCHOLARSHIP
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this is not by leiter he's not wrong but this could have ...
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its from an opinion piece by john naughton in the guardian, ...
Emerald Cruise Ship
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well that's fake news and you just lost some credibility.
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Engineering shit seems so fuckin complicated that by my reck...
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utterly retarded. people who are great leaders and change hi...
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I don't know how youre defining mathmo buy this is probably ...
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David Gelernter makes this point often but better
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he's not wrong but his point and his prose are so banal that...
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Cr. Probably an expression of the liberal aspiration that co...
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In all seriousness, high school social studies is all anyone...
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Most CS programs require Philo and humanties electives. He h...
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average Silicon Valley programmer https://www.youtube.com/w...
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this would carry more weight except for the poop thing
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STEM isn't SCHOLARSHIP We all know this is true
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What are the practical consequences of the phenomenon Leiter...
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Emerald Cruise Ship

On the "half-educated tech elite"

Now mathematics, engineering and computer science are wonderful disciplines – intellectually demanding and fulfilling. And they are economically vital for any advanced society. But mastering them teaches students very little about society or history – or indeed about human nature. As a consequence, the new masters of our universe are people who are essentially only half-educated. They have had no exposure to the humanities or the social sciences, the academic disciplines that aim to provide some understanding of how society works, of history and of the roles that beliefs, philosophies, laws, norms, religion and customs play in the evolution of human culture.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592640)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: Histrionic Shrine Cumskin

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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Bonkers buff area masturbator



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: Startled center



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Mustard Rebellious Menage Roommate

Eh I kind of agree with him, but reach a different conclusion. Remember: google employs yellow-scaled, wingless dragon kin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658333)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: Balding forum trust fund

this would carry more weight if most people educated in the humanities and social sciences knew anything about society or history – or indeed about human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592658)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: Lilac jew chapel



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: Anal ladyboy jap



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: lascivious library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651627)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: cobalt step-uncle's house



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Tan supple range



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Multi-colored foreskin gas station

so cr. shitlibs led demonstrations at Stanford where they actually chanted "hey hey, ho ho, western civ has got to go!" think about chanting that at a university of all places. anyway, they are getting their wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652517)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: territorial theater

my comment no longer makes sense considering OP is fake news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652604)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: marvelous yellow yarmulke potus



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Bronze Abode



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: Aromatic Carnelian Meetinghouse Boiling Water

absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658320)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Glittery Sadistic Shitlib



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Zombie-like arrogant travel guidebook



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:39 AM
Author: chocolate shivering parlour

hmm this dude is a giant faggit but he makes sense here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592674)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Emerald Cruise Ship

do you have a link to that other quote by him from a while ago about how its a "scandal" that people are allowed to study things like engineering and business at america's top universities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592681)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Tan supple range

it is, those are professions, not SCHOLARSHIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652489)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Garnet lay

this is not by leiter

he's not wrong but this could have been written by a high school student

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592680)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: Emerald Cruise Ship

its from an opinion piece by john naughton in the guardian, but leiter quotes it in his blog and it makes for better xo content to present it as leiter's view

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: territorial theater

well that's fake news and you just lost some credibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652607)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:41 AM
Author: amethyst bull headed useless brakes rigpig

This guy is fat as fuck and has brown teeth. What the fuck does he know about anything that’s worth knowing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592684)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:43 AM
Author: stirring cuckoldry stead

Engineering shit seems so fuckin complicated that by my reckoning these nerds could absorb the received wisdom of a poli sci shithead in like an afternoon. They teach themselves entire programming languages for no reason rather quickly like it's nbd and make really complicated message board posts that make like no sense. On jdu, the best political debaters are Engineers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592690)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: alcoholic field double fault

take this stem circle jerk to reddit you neckbeard queer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Flushed sick round eye



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: 180 den



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Irradiated boistinker



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: jet mind-boggling doctorate crackhouse

Well if the debates are between Cooley grads who can’t manage to get a job paying more than 45k and stem bros, this is hardly surprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651444)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Dull Philosopher-king Address

utterly retarded. people who are great leaders and change history do so by a combination of accident, drive, personality, leadership and vision all of which has zero correlation to education be it STEM or humanities

the fatal flaw is not that he thinks humanities is needed but that he thinks that education of any type matters to what makes great leaders

even in tech industry education is practically irrelevant - steve jobs, bill gates, zuckerberg say hi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592695)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:45 AM
Author: Histrionic Shrine Cumskin

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: Cerise Ceo

I don't know how youre defining mathmo buy this is probably false. Have you ever interacted with a math phd or professor irl? It borders on the obscene. They're all like this:

https://youtu.be/gJ1pYz1k0qM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651421)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:46 AM
Author: Racy black gaping

David Gelernter makes this point often but better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592710)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: insecure coiffed main people school

he's not wrong but his point and his prose are so banal that he almost fails to say anything at all

also the notion that mark zuckerberg would have made a "less socially-destructive facebook" had he only received a little more training in kant is comical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592715)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: angry spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651422)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: Mint hilarious university persian

Cr. Probably an expression of the liberal aspiration that college humanities can/should replace religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651498)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: Know-it-all patrolman chad

In all seriousness, high school social studies is all anyone needs if they pay attention and have competent non-shitlib teachers

Anyone bright enough to get a stem degree who reads 4 decent non-fiction books every year through adulthood is going to be much wiser that the average BA-holder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651404)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: gold marketing idea temple



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:13 AM
Author: razzmatazz pearly nowag

Most CS programs require Philo and humanties electives. He has a point in that a lot of tech dudes have delusions about human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651450)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: razzle principal's office crotch

If people just studied Nietzsche they'd appreciate the role of religion in an orderly society! (Leiter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651476)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: Cerebral Offensive Fanboi



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Pungent Keepsake Machete

average Silicon Valley programmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZU-48dR9Q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651479)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: cordovan laser beams dilemma

this would carry more weight except for the poop thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651522)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: wine hunting ground

The notion that it's the STEMbros who are "half"-educated is, of course, ludicrous. What are the odds that Lieter (or the guy who came up with this bit of whimsy) can even do something as simple as a do-while loop? Even if we disregard all the shitlibbery and flame that defines the modern academy, there's simply too much knowledge in the world now for one person to know even close to "everything."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651527)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: elite sienna school cafeteria wagecucks

Tech people seem to have a very poor understanding of human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651561)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: Soggy cruel-hearted resort dingle berry

Lol at you fags circling the wagons around STEM degrees which you never got.

The point is SV tech elites have enormous societal influence through social media platforms and the like. The problem is they are half-breed nerds with no meaningful perspective on life outside of their shitlib safeplace bubble in Mountain View.

This is how places like Google develop into breeding grounds for open hostility and discrimination towards white males.

See also Facebook handing over the keys to their platform because Obama was "on their side."

I don't want a fucking math major running my society. We need to get back to the days of well-rounded STATESMEN making wise decisions for the greater good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651617)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: wine hunting ground

You may have accurately diagnosed a problem, but "more humanities courses" is absolutely the wrong prescription. Are you seriously suggesting that more grievance studies courses will make STEM fags less shitlib?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651637)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: razzle principal's office crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652509)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Thriller Avocado Water Buffalo Love Of Her Life



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Bonkers buff area masturbator



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Cerise Ceo

dat noblesse oblige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652627)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Puce hairraiser international law enforcement agency

I'm sure Musk and Malk and all those dorks took plenty of lib arts courses in college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651618)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: Wonderful brindle space blood rage

STEM isn't SCHOLARSHIP

We all know this is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651620)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: electric erotic feces

What are the practical consequences of the phenomenon Leiter is criticizing? Can you point to any concrete events that would have happened differently if tech people read more ARTS AND HUMANITIES OOOOOOHHHH IT'S SO PROFOUND AND BEAUTIFUL AND MAKES YOU MORE HUMAN IT'S SO DEEEP I'M DEEEEEEEEEEP WE'RE HUMANS NOT ROBOTS BEAUTY ART MAGIC WONDER SO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652511)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: elite sienna school cafeteria wagecucks

What about how Facebook autistically suggests you friend everyone with whom you come into contact? Patients of some therapist, whose identities were supposed to be confidential, were shown each others' profiles and told to friend each other by the website.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652633)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Vibrant kink-friendly heaven

Who cares. The aristocracy is long dead. We're just a society of worker bees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652516)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone vigorous pit degenerate

Except for ARE billionaire overlords....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658358)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: opaque parlor

the PRANCING SCHOLAR demands that tech reckon with its lack of SCHOLARLY SWEETS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658322)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:27 PM
Author: ivory mad cow disease twinkling uncleanness

i would be 100% on board with this if i didn't already know that when humanities people complain about tech people being ignorant they mean "not sufficiently amenable to SJW bullshit" more than half the time. i would like to some more genuine appreciation for the humanities though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658395)