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Brian Leiter on "the half educated tech elite"
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: Boyish Insane Resort On the "half-educated tech elite"
Now mathematics, engineering and computer science are wonderful disciplines – intellectually demanding and fulfilling. And they are economically vital for any advanced society. But mastering them teaches students very little about society or history – or indeed about human nature. As a consequence, the new masters of our universe are people who are essentially only half-educated. They have had no exposure to the humanities or the social sciences, the academic disciplines that aim to provide some understanding of how society works, of history and of the roles that beliefs, philosophies, laws, norms, religion and customs play in the evolution of human culture.
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: very tactful market spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592647) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Twinkling Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592698) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:48 AM Author: shimmering cruise ship turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592721) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM Author: Ebony prole theater stage Eh I kind of agree with him, but reach a different conclusion. Remember: google employs yellow-scaled, wingless dragon kin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658333) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:37 AM Author: concupiscible party of the first part this would carry more weight if most people educated in the humanities and social sciences knew anything about society or history – or indeed about human nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592658) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM Author: Maroon milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651442) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:14 AM Author: Floppy cuck trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651459) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:53 AM Author: mildly autistic parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651627) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:11 PM Author: Emerald swashbuckling french chef hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652477) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM Author: soggy meetinghouse hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652484) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM Author: turquoise supple lettuce friendly grandma so cr. shitlibs led demonstrations at Stanford where they actually chanted "hey hey, ho ho, western civ has got to go!" think about chanting that at a university of all places. anyway, they are getting their wish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652517) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Nubile startling background story boiling water my comment no longer makes sense considering OP is fake news (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652604) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Up-to-no-good misunderstood orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652608) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM Author: razzle-dazzle smoky whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652614) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM Author: Comical hunting ground absolutely devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658320) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:17 PM Author: disgusting provocative nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658329) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM Author: orchid halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658335) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:39 AM Author: marvelous startled legend water buffalo hmm this dude is a giant faggit but he makes sense here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592674) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM Author: Boyish Insane Resort do you have a link to that other quote by him from a while ago about how its a "scandal" that people are allowed to study things like engineering and business at america's top universities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592681) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM Author: soggy meetinghouse hairy legs it is, those are professions, not SCHOLARSHIP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652489) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM Author: Exhilarant Sinister Station this is not by leiter
he's not wrong but this could have been written by a high school student |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:42 AM Author: Boyish Insane Resort its from an opinion piece by john naughton in the guardian, but leiter quotes it in his blog and it makes for better xo content to present it as leiter's view (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592688) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Nubile startling background story boiling water well that's fake news and you just lost some credibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652607) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:41 AM Author: sick wonderful bbw round eye This guy is fat as fuck and has brown teeth. What the fuck does he know about anything that’s worth knowing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592684) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:43 AM Author: Avocado seedy garrison karate Engineering shit seems so fuckin complicated that by my reckoning these nerds could absorb the received wisdom of a poli sci shithead in like an afternoon. They teach themselves entire programming languages for no reason rather quickly like it's nbd and make really complicated message board posts that make like no sense. On jdu, the best political debaters are Engineers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592690) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Sooty base take this stem circle jerk to reddit you neckbeard queer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592697) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM Author: idiotic school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651475) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Crimson love of her life depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652512) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM Author: grizzly mood indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658334) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM Author: Beady-eyed cordovan corner Well if the debates are between Cooley grads who can’t manage to get a job paying more than 45k and stem bros, this is hardly surprising (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651444) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Dark masturbator utterly retarded. people who are great leaders and change history do so by a combination of accident, drive, personality, leadership and vision all of which has zero correlation to education be it STEM or humanities
the fatal flaw is not that he thinks humanities is needed but that he thinks that education of any type matters to what makes great leaders
even in tech industry education is practically irrelevant - steve jobs, bill gates, zuckerberg say hi |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:45 AM Author: very tactful market spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592702) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:06 AM Author: bearded box office puppy I don't know how youre defining mathmo buy this is probably false. Have you ever interacted with a math phd or professor irl? It borders on the obscene. They're all like this:
https://youtu.be/gJ1pYz1k0qM |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:46 AM Author: henna internal respiration David Gelernter makes this point often but better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592710) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:47 AM Author: charismatic kitchen he's not wrong but his point and his prose are so banal that he almost fails to say anything at all
also the notion that mark zuckerberg would have made a "less socially-destructive facebook" had he only received a little more training in kant is comical |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM Author: snowy foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651422) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:21 AM Author: Outnumbered wrinkle cuckold Cr. Probably an expression of the liberal aspiration that college humanities can/should replace religion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651498) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:02 AM Author: Submissive shrine newt In all seriousness, high school social studies is all anyone needs if they pay attention and have competent non-shitlib teachers
Anyone bright enough to get a stem degree who reads 4 decent non-fiction books every year through adulthood is going to be much wiser that the average BA-holder |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM Author: hairless aromatic public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651424) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:13 AM Author: Poppy Azn Native Most CS programs require Philo and humanties electives. He has a point in that a lot of tech dudes have delusions about human nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651450) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM Author: Galvanic gas station rigor If people just studied Nietzsche they'd appreciate the role of religion in an orderly society! (Leiter) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651476) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:14 PM Author: carnelian bateful heaven son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658316) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM Author: Spectacular red gaping average Silicon Valley programmer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZU-48dR9Q |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:28 AM Author: Appetizing step-uncle's house messiness this would carry more weight except for the poop thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651522) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:29 AM Author: Carmine goyim cuckoldry The notion that it's the STEMbros who are "half"-educated is, of course, ludicrous. What are the odds that Lieter (or the guy who came up with this bit of whimsy) can even do something as simple as a do-while loop? Even if we disregard all the shitlibbery and flame that defines the modern academy, there's simply too much knowledge in the world now for one person to know even close to "everything." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651527) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:37 AM Author: fuchsia locale Tech people seem to have a very poor understanding of human nature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651561) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:50 AM Author: Laughsome institution Lol at you fags circling the wagons around STEM degrees which you never got.
The point is SV tech elites have enormous societal influence through social media platforms and the like. The problem is they are half-breed nerds with no meaningful perspective on life outside of their shitlib safeplace bubble in Mountain View.
This is how places like Google develop into breeding grounds for open hostility and discrimination towards white males.
See also Facebook handing over the keys to their platform because Obama was "on their side."
I don't want a fucking math major running my society. We need to get back to the days of well-rounded STATESMEN making wise decisions for the greater good. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:55 AM Author: Carmine goyim cuckoldry You may have accurately diagnosed a problem, but "more humanities courses" is absolutely the wrong prescription. Are you seriously suggesting that more grievance studies courses will make STEM fags less shitlib? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651637) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:14 PM Author: Galvanic gas station rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652509) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Drab locus striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652584) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:25 PM Author: Twinkling Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658384) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:31 PM Author: bearded box office puppy dat noblesse oblige (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652627) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:51 AM Author: dashing lemon black woman I'm sure Musk and Malk and all those dorks took plenty of lib arts courses in college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651618) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:52 AM Author: Lime affirmative action STEM isn't SCHOLARSHIP
We all know this is true |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Vigorous idea he suggested What are the practical consequences of the phenomenon Leiter is criticizing? Can you point to any concrete events that would have happened differently if tech people read more ARTS AND HUMANITIES OOOOOOHHHH IT'S SO PROFOUND AND BEAUTIFUL AND MAKES YOU MORE HUMAN IT'S SO DEEEP I'M DEEEEEEEEEEP WE'RE HUMANS NOT ROBOTS BEAUTY ART MAGIC WONDER SO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652511) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:32 PM Author: fuchsia locale What about how Facebook autistically suggests you friend everyone with whom you come into contact? Patients of some therapist, whose identities were supposed to be confidential, were shown each others' profiles and told to friend each other by the website. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652633) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM Author: nofapping excitant theatre Who cares. The aristocracy is long dead. We're just a society of worker bees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652516) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:21 PM Author: Razzmatazz Range Candlestick Maker Except for ARE billionaire overlords.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658358) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM Author: twisted field the PRANCING SCHOLAR demands that tech reckon with its lack of SCHOLARLY SWEETS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658322) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:27 PM Author: soul-stirring saffron senate legal warrant i would be 100% on board with this if i didn't already know that when humanities people complain about tech people being ignorant they mean "not sufficiently amenable to SJW bullshit" more than half the time. i would like to some more genuine appreciation for the humanities though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658395) |