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Brian Leiter on "the half educated tech elite"

On the "half-educated tech elite" Now mathemati...
Well-lubricated multi-billionaire
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Stimulating olive office preventive strike
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Eh I kind of agree with him, but reach a different conclusio...
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this would carry more weight if most people educated in the ...
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so cr. shitlibs led demonstrations at Stanford where they ac...
fishy laughsome home tank
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my comment no longer makes sense considering OP is fake news
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absolutely devastating
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slate becky cumskin
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hmm this dude is a giant faggit but he makes sense here
Jet lascivious lay
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do you have a link to that other quote by him from a while a...
Well-lubricated multi-billionaire
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it is, those are professions, not SCHOLARSHIP
sinister mustard travel guidebook
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this is not by leiter he's not wrong but this could have ...
crusty piazza
  03/13/18
its from an opinion piece by john naughton in the guardian, ...
Well-lubricated multi-billionaire
  03/13/18
well that's fake news and you just lost some credibility.
gold trust fund partner
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This guy is fat as fuck and has brown teeth. What the fuck d...
Galvanic Magenta Ticket Booth Mental Disorder
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Engineering shit seems so fuckin complicated that by my reck...
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take this stem circle jerk to reddit you neckbeard queer
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Well if the debates are between Cooley grads who can’t manag...
brindle spectacular space
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utterly retarded. people who are great leaders and change hi...
Poppy pocket flask
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spin, ratfucks
Histrionic Chartreuse House Newt
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I don't know how youre defining mathmo buy this is probably ...
Greedy Vibrant Macaca Stage
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David Gelernter makes this point often but better
diverse volcanic crater
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he's not wrong but his point and his prose are so banal that...
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Cr. Probably an expression of the liberal aspiration that co...
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In all seriousness, high school social studies is all anyone...
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mind-boggling black woman orchestra pit
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Most CS programs require Philo and humanties electives. He h...
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If people just studied Nietzsche they'd appreciate the role ...
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average Silicon Valley programmer https://www.youtube.com/w...
underhanded school cafeteria turdskin
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this would carry more weight except for the poop thing
Wine soul-stirring set
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The notion that it's the STEMbros who are "half"-e...
Saffron big point
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Tech people seem to have a very poor understanding of human ...
mildly autistic titillating circlehead
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Lol at you fags circling the wagons around STEM degrees whic...
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You may have accurately diagnosed a problem, but "more ...
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I'm sure Musk and Malk and all those dorks took plenty of li...
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STEM isn't SCHOLARSHIP We all know this is true
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What are the practical consequences of the phenomenon Leiter...
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What about how Facebook autistically suggests you friend eve...
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Who cares. The aristocracy is long dead. We're just a societ...
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Except for ARE billionaire overlords....
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the PRANCING SCHOLAR demands that tech reckon with its lack ...
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Well-lubricated multi-billionaire

On the "half-educated tech elite"

Now mathematics, engineering and computer science are wonderful disciplines – intellectually demanding and fulfilling. And they are economically vital for any advanced society. But mastering them teaches students very little about society or history – or indeed about human nature. As a consequence, the new masters of our universe are people who are essentially only half-educated. They have had no exposure to the humanities or the social sciences, the academic disciplines that aim to provide some understanding of how society works, of history and of the roles that beliefs, philosophies, laws, norms, religion and customs play in the evolution of human culture.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592640)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: Histrionic Chartreuse House Newt

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592647)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Hairraiser emerald nursing home therapy



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: Stimulating olive office preventive strike



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Demanding Whorehouse Mediation

Eh I kind of agree with him, but reach a different conclusion. Remember: google employs yellow-scaled, wingless dragon kin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658333)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone theatre

this would carry more weight if most people educated in the humanities and social sciences knew anything about society or history – or indeed about human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592658)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: Lake wonderful lodge legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651442)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: internet-worthy 180 sweet tailpipe



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: chestnut at-the-ready gas station



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Blue bateful school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652477)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: sinister mustard travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652484)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: fishy laughsome home tank

so cr. shitlibs led demonstrations at Stanford where they actually chanted "hey hey, ho ho, western civ has got to go!" think about chanting that at a university of all places. anyway, they are getting their wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652517)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: gold trust fund partner

my comment no longer makes sense considering OP is fake news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652604)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Rambunctious Ebony Affirmative Action



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: multi-colored lavender ladyboy potus



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: Canary stage new version

absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658320)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: massive trip coffee pot institution



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: slate becky cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658335)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:39 AM
Author: Jet lascivious lay

hmm this dude is a giant faggit but he makes sense here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592674)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Well-lubricated multi-billionaire

do you have a link to that other quote by him from a while ago about how its a "scandal" that people are allowed to study things like engineering and business at america's top universities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592681)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: sinister mustard travel guidebook

it is, those are professions, not SCHOLARSHIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652489)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: crusty piazza

this is not by leiter

he's not wrong but this could have been written by a high school student

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592680)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: Well-lubricated multi-billionaire

its from an opinion piece by john naughton in the guardian, but leiter quotes it in his blog and it makes for better xo content to present it as leiter's view

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: gold trust fund partner

well that's fake news and you just lost some credibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652607)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:41 AM
Author: Galvanic Magenta Ticket Booth Mental Disorder

This guy is fat as fuck and has brown teeth. What the fuck does he know about anything that’s worth knowing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592684)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:43 AM
Author: cobalt cracking son of senegal tanning salon

Engineering shit seems so fuckin complicated that by my reckoning these nerds could absorb the received wisdom of a poli sci shithead in like an afternoon. They teach themselves entire programming languages for no reason rather quickly like it's nbd and make really complicated message board posts that make like no sense. On jdu, the best political debaters are Engineers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592690)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Maroon cruel-hearted cuck candlestick maker

take this stem circle jerk to reddit you neckbeard queer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Bronze psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651475)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: beady-eyed coral stead juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652512)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Passionate Ruby Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658334)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: brindle spectacular space

Well if the debates are between Cooley grads who can’t manage to get a job paying more than 45k and stem bros, this is hardly surprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651444)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Poppy pocket flask

utterly retarded. people who are great leaders and change history do so by a combination of accident, drive, personality, leadership and vision all of which has zero correlation to education be it STEM or humanities

the fatal flaw is not that he thinks humanities is needed but that he thinks that education of any type matters to what makes great leaders

even in tech industry education is practically irrelevant - steve jobs, bill gates, zuckerberg say hi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592695)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:45 AM
Author: Histrionic Chartreuse House Newt

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: Greedy Vibrant Macaca Stage

I don't know how youre defining mathmo buy this is probably false. Have you ever interacted with a math phd or professor irl? It borders on the obscene. They're all like this:

https://youtu.be/gJ1pYz1k0qM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651421)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:46 AM
Author: diverse volcanic crater

David Gelernter makes this point often but better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592710)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Sable frozen university karate

he's not wrong but his point and his prose are so banal that he almost fails to say anything at all

also the notion that mark zuckerberg would have made a "less socially-destructive facebook" had he only received a little more training in kant is comical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35592715)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: dashing scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651422)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: Copper box office

Cr. Probably an expression of the liberal aspiration that college humanities can/should replace religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651498)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: Rusted abode love of her life

In all seriousness, high school social studies is all anyone needs if they pay attention and have competent non-shitlib teachers

Anyone bright enough to get a stem degree who reads 4 decent non-fiction books every year through adulthood is going to be much wiser that the average BA-holder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651404)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: mind-boggling black woman orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651424)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:13 AM
Author: Idiotic parlour hissy fit

Most CS programs require Philo and humanties electives. He has a point in that a lot of tech dudes have delusions about human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651450)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: swashbuckling hall selfie

If people just studied Nietzsche they'd appreciate the role of religion in an orderly society! (Leiter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651476)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: autistic bright sanctuary



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: underhanded school cafeteria turdskin

average Silicon Valley programmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZU-48dR9Q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651479)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: Wine soul-stirring set

this would carry more weight except for the poop thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651522)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: Saffron big point

The notion that it's the STEMbros who are "half"-educated is, of course, ludicrous. What are the odds that Lieter (or the guy who came up with this bit of whimsy) can even do something as simple as a do-while loop? Even if we disregard all the shitlibbery and flame that defines the modern academy, there's simply too much knowledge in the world now for one person to know even close to "everything."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651527)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: mildly autistic titillating circlehead

Tech people seem to have a very poor understanding of human nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651561)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: sepia frum useless brakes

Lol at you fags circling the wagons around STEM degrees which you never got.

The point is SV tech elites have enormous societal influence through social media platforms and the like. The problem is they are half-breed nerds with no meaningful perspective on life outside of their shitlib safeplace bubble in Mountain View.

This is how places like Google develop into breeding grounds for open hostility and discrimination towards white males.

See also Facebook handing over the keys to their platform because Obama was "on their side."

I don't want a fucking math major running my society. We need to get back to the days of well-rounded STATESMEN making wise decisions for the greater good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651617)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: Saffron big point

You may have accurately diagnosed a problem, but "more humanities courses" is absolutely the wrong prescription. Are you seriously suggesting that more grievance studies courses will make STEM fags less shitlib?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651637)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: swashbuckling hall selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652509)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: rebellious cyan forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652584)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Hairraiser emerald nursing home therapy



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Greedy Vibrant Macaca Stage

dat noblesse oblige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652627)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: avocado concupiscible dilemma mad cow disease

I'm sure Musk and Malk and all those dorks took plenty of lib arts courses in college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651618)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: racy halford digit ratio

STEM isn't SCHOLARSHIP

We all know this is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35651620)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Appetizing jew business firm

What are the practical consequences of the phenomenon Leiter is criticizing? Can you point to any concrete events that would have happened differently if tech people read more ARTS AND HUMANITIES OOOOOOHHHH IT'S SO PROFOUND AND BEAUTIFUL AND MAKES YOU MORE HUMAN IT'S SO DEEEP I'M DEEEEEEEEEEP WE'RE HUMANS NOT ROBOTS BEAUTY ART MAGIC WONDER SO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652511)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: mildly autistic titillating circlehead

What about how Facebook autistically suggests you friend everyone with whom you come into contact? Patients of some therapist, whose identities were supposed to be confidential, were shown each others' profiles and told to friend each other by the website.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652633)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Buff cerebral heaven

Who cares. The aristocracy is long dead. We're just a society of worker bees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35652516)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: aggressive awkward mad-dog skullcap

Except for ARE billionaire overlords....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658358)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: chrome stirring spot

the PRANCING SCHOLAR demands that tech reckon with its lack of SCHOLARLY SWEETS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658322)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:27 PM
Author: boyish orchid senate half-breed

i would be 100% on board with this if i didn't already know that when humanities people complain about tech people being ignorant they mean "not sufficiently amenable to SJW bullshit" more than half the time. i would like to some more genuine appreciation for the humanities though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917059&forum_id=2#35658395)