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Elizabeth Holmes Theranos Fraud Was Way Worse Than What Shkreli Did

Stanford dropout, Silicon Valley darling girl gets a slap on...
insecure pungent community account
  03/14/18
Her fraud was much bigger too.
Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib
  03/17/18
What did she do?
Wonderful bronze place of business
  03/14/18
what did she do. She hit.
French trailer park
  03/14/18
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Balding motley field
  03/17/18
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canary school
  01/03/22
lmaooooooo
talking degenerate
  03/25/22
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amber abusive brethren
  03/25/22
Performed a chemistry.
Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib
  03/17/18
tbf all she did was mislead a bunch of retarded rich people ...
heady maize center clown
  03/14/18
What did Shkreli do?
insecure pungent community account
  03/14/18
i thought he jacked up drug prices but i didnt really pay at...
heady maize center clown
  03/14/18
That is actually not illegal. However, doing so brings at...
Trip principal's office boiling water
  03/14/18
it looks like he was actually running a ponzi scheem and shi...
heady maize center clown
  03/14/18
it's wasn't a ponzi scheme - he just lost the money and then...
Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut
  03/14/18
...
French trailer park
  03/14/18
Still criminal.
Floppy Round Eye
  03/14/18
Correct, but Elizabeth Holmes was a fraud from day 1 and sol...
French trailer park
  03/14/18
Nah. Her technology worked for some shit so she thought it w...
Floppy Round Eye
  03/14/18
I think a large portion of their funding was predicated on t...
French trailer park
  03/14/18
The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. The DOJ can still prosecu...
Floppy Round Eye
  03/14/18
> claimed that Theranos’ products were deployed by the U....
heady maize center clown
  03/14/18
ty brother
French trailer park
  03/14/18
Dats wire fraud.
tan outnumbered prole nursing home
  03/15/18
talked a lot of shit to people
big library
  03/14/18
talked shit and got got
French trailer park
  03/14/18
misled fewer people and got them to invest a lot less money ...
Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut
  03/14/18
"great point, what's so bad about that?!" said Ber...
supple space tattoo
  03/14/18
DOJ hasn't spoken yet.
Floppy Round Eye
  03/14/18
But the SEC penalty could just be the beginning, right? Pros...
yapping really tough guy
  03/14/18
Seems like she agreed to the SEC penalty - i would imagine s...
Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut
  03/14/18
Does settling with the SEC really preclude all prosecutions?...
yapping really tough guy
  03/14/18
No. Earl is a real estate lawyer. The criminal prosecution i...
Erotic Meetinghouse
  03/17/18
xo Liz Holmes
Violent Church Building
  03/14/18
I hope the Department of Justice comes down hard on this one...
insecure pungent community account
  03/14/18
Because of the crazy psychopathic look in her eyes?
vibrant death wish
  03/14/18
I guess. I don't really have a logical justification for my ...
insecure pungent community account
  03/14/18
lmao For instance, Holmes and Balwani told one investor t...
heady maize center clown
  03/14/18
A justice is performed.
Contagious Azure Elastic Band Pisswyrm
  03/15/18
TCR. Shitlibbery in our justice system.
Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib
  03/17/18
yep, way worse
Shaky garrison
  03/17/18
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Charismatic address
  01/03/22
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underhanded aqua heaven volcanic crater
  12/31/21
She should be going away for 20 years. Anything less is a di...
soul-stirring dead police squad kitchen
  12/31/21
women get treated w kid gloves
Aphrodisiac dilemma queen of the night
  01/03/22
Shkreli did nothing wrong but make enemies in high places.
marvelous piazza
  01/03/22
tbf, so did Holmes. but she fucked em out of a billion along...
Charismatic address
  01/03/22
if you thumb your nose at kiyo matsumoto, 7 years for you
Judgmental telephone macaca
  01/03/22
...
underhanded aqua heaven volcanic crater
  03/25/22
"Until a drug company executive goes to jail, this won&...
Shaky garrison
  03/25/22
Given the level of corruption and human harm he encountered,...
Shaky garrison
  03/25/22


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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: insecure pungent community account

Stanford dropout, Silicon Valley darling girl gets a slap on the wrist, pays $500,000 fine.

Shkreli has to fork over more than $7 million, spend 7 years in prison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604937)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib

Her fraud was much bigger too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626437)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Wonderful bronze place of business

What did she do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604944)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: French trailer park

what did she do. She hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605121)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Balding motley field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626441)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: canary school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722590)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:11 AM
Author: talking degenerate

lmaooooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213410)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:22 AM
Author: amber abusive brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213476)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib

Performed a chemistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626438)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: heady maize center clown

tbf all she did was mislead a bunch of retarded rich people to get them to invest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604959)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: insecure pungent community account

What did Shkreli do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605023)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: heady maize center clown

i thought he jacked up drug prices but i didnt really pay attention to his shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605062)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Trip principal's office boiling water

That is actually not illegal.

However, doing so brings attention to yourself and causes the Feds to scrutinize everything you do and gets them to throw the book at you when they discover your "harmless white collar crime." So instead of a slap on the wrist and small fine he loses his Wu Tang Clan album, loads of cash and gets seven years at Club Fed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605131)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: heady maize center clown

it looks like he was actually running a ponzi scheem and shit. ok lmao he deserves to go to jail then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605138)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut

it's wasn't a ponzi scheme - he just lost the money and then used ponzi tactics to cover it up, before he struck it rick and was able to pay them back.

Madoff was all ponzi from the start.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605167)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: French trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605773)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Floppy Round Eye

Still criminal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605831)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: French trailer park

Correct, but Elizabeth Holmes was a fraud from day 1 and solicited almost a billion dollars in investment based on that fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605842)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Floppy Round Eye

Nah. Her technology worked for some shit so she thought it worked but then she turned into a criminal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605856)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: French trailer park

I think a large portion of their funding was predicated on the stuff she made up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605862)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Floppy Round Eye

The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. The DOJ can still prosecute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605868)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: heady maize center clown

> claimed that Theranos’ products were deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense on the battlefield in Afghanistan and on medevac helicopters and that the company would generate more than $100 million in revenue in 2014. In truth, Theranos’ technology was never deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense and generated a little more than $100,000 in revenue from operations in 2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605870)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: French trailer park

ty brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605876)



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Date: March 15th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: tan outnumbered prole nursing home

Dats wire fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35611938)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: big library

talked a lot of shit to people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605101)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: French trailer park

talked shit and got got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605776)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut

misled fewer people and got them to invest a lot less money and paid them all back with a great return.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605114)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: supple space tattoo

"great point, what's so bad about that?!" said Bernie Madoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606050)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Floppy Round Eye

DOJ hasn't spoken yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605851)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: yapping really tough guy

But the SEC penalty could just be the beginning, right? Prosecutions, and $M's in lawsuits (if she actually has any money) could still follow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605989)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:02 PM
Author: Arousing Aquamarine Sound Barrier Juggernaut

Seems like she agreed to the SEC penalty - i would imagine some deal was cut. I would be surprised (pleasantly) if they come down on her hard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606005)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: yapping really tough guy

Does settling with the SEC really preclude all prosecutions?

And she's already been sued; hope more people sue her.

She's got a really crazed look about her; like she's been professionally made up to hide the crazy and is just barely holding it together for cameras

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606052)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Erotic Meetinghouse

No. Earl is a real estate lawyer. The criminal prosecution is coming and the investigation continues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626460)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Violent Church Building

xo Liz Holmes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606040)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: insecure pungent community account

I hope the Department of Justice comes down hard on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606897)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: vibrant death wish

Because of the crazy psychopathic look in her eyes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606917)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: insecure pungent community account

I guess. I don't really have a logical justification for my comment. I just have a deeply visceral negative reaction to this Lizzie Holmes character.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606930)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: heady maize center clown

lmao

For instance, Holmes and Balwani told one investor that Theranos' proprietary analyzer could process over 1,000 Current Procedural Terminology ('CPT') codes and that Theranos had developed a technological solution for an additional 300 CPT codes," even though "Theranos' analyzers never performed comprehensive testing or processed 1,000 CPT codes in its clinical lab," and in fact never processed more than 12 tests on its TSPU. 5 And Theranos would even do a little pantomime blood-draw demonstration directly on the investors:

This initial meeting was often followed by a purported demonstration of Theranos' proprietary analyzers, the TSPU, and the miniLab. In several instances, potential investors would be taken by Holmes and Balwani to a different room to view Theranos' desktop computer-like analyzers. A phlebotomist would arrive to draw their blood through fingerstick, using a nanotainer, a Theranos-developed collection device. Then the sample was either inserted into the TSPU or taken away for processing. Based on what they saw, potential investors believed that Theranos had tested their blood on either an earlier-generation TSPU or the miniLab. As Holmes knew, or was reckless in not knowing, however, Theranos often actually tested their blood on third-party analyzers, because Theranos could not conduct all of the tests it offered prospective investors on its proprietary analyzers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606941)



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Date: March 15th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: Contagious Azure Elastic Band Pisswyrm

A justice is performed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35611981)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Gold know-it-all parlour shitlib

TCR. Shitlibbery in our justice system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626433)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Shaky garrison

yep, way worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626897)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: Charismatic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722583)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: underhanded aqua heaven volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43706271)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:15 PM
Author: soul-stirring dead police squad kitchen

She should be going away for 20 years. Anything less is a disgrace to the legal system. She committed a giant public fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43706309)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:32 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac dilemma queen of the night

women get treated w kid gloves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722600)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:31 PM
Author: marvelous piazza

Shkreli did nothing wrong but make enemies in high places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722596)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 8:07 PM
Author: Charismatic address

tbf, so did Holmes. but she fucked em out of a billion along the way. Shkreli just thumbed his nose at them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43723805)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 9:42 PM
Author: Judgmental telephone macaca

if you thumb your nose at kiyo matsumoto, 7 years for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43724357)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:07 AM
Author: underhanded aqua heaven volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213388)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:18 AM
Author: Shaky garrison

"Until a drug company executive goes to jail, this won’t stop. They simply say, ‘We’re going to kill X many people, injure Y. Of those, only A percent will know, and of those, only B percent will be able to do something about it.’ Factor all this into the price of doing business, including payoffs to the families of the ones they kill, and they’re still making huge profits. Whether someone is actually so diabolical as to put it into those words, or whether it’s just the way things work out, I don’t know. The result is the same."

-Crisis of Conscience: Whistleblowing in an Age of Fraud, by Tom Mueller



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213457)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:19 AM
Author: Shaky garrison

Given the level of corruption and human harm he encountered, Jones insists that he had no real choice: he was compelled to blow the whistle, because inaction would have made him an accessory to the crime. In this telling, there is an inevitability to what happened, as if he were the protagonist in a Greek tragedy, walking the path that the Fates had foretold.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213462)