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Elizabeth Holmes Theranos Fraud Was Way Worse Than What Shkreli Did

Stanford dropout, Silicon Valley darling girl gets a slap on...
Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line
  03/14/18
Her fraud was much bigger too.
Anal wonderful nowag pit
  03/17/18
What did she do?
Talented transparent office deer antler
  03/14/18
what did she do. She hit.
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
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olive karate
  03/17/18
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Doobsian gaming laptop bawdyhouse
  01/03/22
lmaooooooo
cordovan step-uncle's house fat ankles
  03/25/22
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cerebral canary school
  03/25/22
Performed a chemistry.
Anal wonderful nowag pit
  03/17/18
tbf all she did was mislead a bunch of retarded rich people ...
odious nursing home masturbator
  03/14/18
What did Shkreli do?
Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line
  03/14/18
i thought he jacked up drug prices but i didnt really pay at...
odious nursing home masturbator
  03/14/18
That is actually not illegal. However, doing so brings at...
floppy internal respiration
  03/14/18
it looks like he was actually running a ponzi scheem and shi...
odious nursing home masturbator
  03/14/18
it's wasn't a ponzi scheme - he just lost the money and then...
Big public bath
  03/14/18
...
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
Still criminal.
spectacular slippery generalized bond temple
  03/14/18
Correct, but Elizabeth Holmes was a fraud from day 1 and sol...
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
Nah. Her technology worked for some shit so she thought it w...
spectacular slippery generalized bond temple
  03/14/18
I think a large portion of their funding was predicated on t...
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. The DOJ can still prosecu...
spectacular slippery generalized bond temple
  03/14/18
> claimed that Theranos’ products were deployed by the U....
odious nursing home masturbator
  03/14/18
ty brother
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
Dats wire fraud.
Thriller coffee pot
  03/15/18
talked a lot of shit to people
blathering area telephone
  03/14/18
talked shit and got got
Irradiated Windowlicker State
  03/14/18
misled fewer people and got them to invest a lot less money ...
Big public bath
  03/14/18
"great point, what's so bad about that?!" said Ber...
stimulating rusted range community account
  03/14/18
DOJ hasn't spoken yet.
spectacular slippery generalized bond temple
  03/14/18
But the SEC penalty could just be the beginning, right? Pros...
bronze forum regret
  03/14/18
Seems like she agreed to the SEC penalty - i would imagine s...
Big public bath
  03/14/18
Does settling with the SEC really preclude all prosecutions?...
bronze forum regret
  03/14/18
No. Earl is a real estate lawyer. The criminal prosecution i...
Ivory sticky locale
  03/17/18
xo Liz Holmes
ebony crawly locus marketing idea
  03/14/18
I hope the Department of Justice comes down hard on this one...
Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line
  03/14/18
Because of the crazy psychopathic look in her eyes?
Flesh galvanic school cafeteria
  03/14/18
I guess. I don't really have a logical justification for my ...
Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line
  03/14/18
lmao For instance, Holmes and Balwani told one investor t...
odious nursing home masturbator
  03/14/18
A justice is performed.
greedy address son of senegal
  03/15/18
TCR. Shitlibbery in our justice system.
Anal wonderful nowag pit
  03/17/18
yep, way worse
Primrose stirring cuck
  03/17/18
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Soul-stirring dysfunction
  01/03/22
...
Peach curious organic girlfriend
  12/31/21
She should be going away for 20 years. Anything less is a di...
Rose comical trust fund macaca
  12/31/21
women get treated w kid gloves
cocky autistic quadroon
  01/03/22
Shkreli did nothing wrong but make enemies in high places.
Fragrant Spruce Partner Tanning Salon
  01/03/22
tbf, so did Holmes. but she fucked em out of a billion along...
Soul-stirring dysfunction
  01/03/22
if you thumb your nose at kiyo matsumoto, 7 years for you
Mint Mind-boggling Milk
  01/03/22
...
Peach curious organic girlfriend
  03/25/22
"Until a drug company executive goes to jail, this won&...
Primrose stirring cuck
  03/25/22
Given the level of corruption and human harm he encountered,...
Primrose stirring cuck
  03/25/22


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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line

Stanford dropout, Silicon Valley darling girl gets a slap on the wrist, pays $500,000 fine.

Shkreli has to fork over more than $7 million, spend 7 years in prison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604937)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Anal wonderful nowag pit

Her fraud was much bigger too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626437)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Talented transparent office deer antler

What did she do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604944)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State

what did she do. She hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605121)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: olive karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626441)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: Doobsian gaming laptop bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722590)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:11 AM
Author: cordovan step-uncle's house fat ankles

lmaooooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213410)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:22 AM
Author: cerebral canary school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213476)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Anal wonderful nowag pit

Performed a chemistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626438)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: odious nursing home masturbator

tbf all she did was mislead a bunch of retarded rich people to get them to invest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35604959)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line

What did Shkreli do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605023)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: odious nursing home masturbator

i thought he jacked up drug prices but i didnt really pay attention to his shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605062)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: floppy internal respiration

That is actually not illegal.

However, doing so brings attention to yourself and causes the Feds to scrutinize everything you do and gets them to throw the book at you when they discover your "harmless white collar crime." So instead of a slap on the wrist and small fine he loses his Wu Tang Clan album, loads of cash and gets seven years at Club Fed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605131)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: odious nursing home masturbator

it looks like he was actually running a ponzi scheem and shit. ok lmao he deserves to go to jail then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605138)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Big public bath

it's wasn't a ponzi scheme - he just lost the money and then used ponzi tactics to cover it up, before he struck it rick and was able to pay them back.

Madoff was all ponzi from the start.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605167)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605773)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: spectacular slippery generalized bond temple

Still criminal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605831)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State

Correct, but Elizabeth Holmes was a fraud from day 1 and solicited almost a billion dollars in investment based on that fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605842)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: spectacular slippery generalized bond temple

Nah. Her technology worked for some shit so she thought it worked but then she turned into a criminal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605856)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State

I think a large portion of their funding was predicated on the stuff she made up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605862)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: spectacular slippery generalized bond temple

The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. The DOJ can still prosecute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605868)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: odious nursing home masturbator

> claimed that Theranos’ products were deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense on the battlefield in Afghanistan and on medevac helicopters and that the company would generate more than $100 million in revenue in 2014. In truth, Theranos’ technology was never deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense and generated a little more than $100,000 in revenue from operations in 2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605870)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State

ty brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605876)



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Date: March 15th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Thriller coffee pot

Dats wire fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35611938)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: blathering area telephone

talked a lot of shit to people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605101)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Irradiated Windowlicker State

talked shit and got got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605776)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Big public bath

misled fewer people and got them to invest a lot less money and paid them all back with a great return.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605114)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: stimulating rusted range community account

"great point, what's so bad about that?!" said Bernie Madoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606050)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: spectacular slippery generalized bond temple

DOJ hasn't spoken yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605851)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: bronze forum regret

But the SEC penalty could just be the beginning, right? Prosecutions, and $M's in lawsuits (if she actually has any money) could still follow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35605989)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:02 PM
Author: Big public bath

Seems like she agreed to the SEC penalty - i would imagine some deal was cut. I would be surprised (pleasantly) if they come down on her hard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606005)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: bronze forum regret

Does settling with the SEC really preclude all prosecutions?

And she's already been sued; hope more people sue her.

She's got a really crazed look about her; like she's been professionally made up to hide the crazy and is just barely holding it together for cameras

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606052)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Ivory sticky locale

No. Earl is a real estate lawyer. The criminal prosecution is coming and the investigation continues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626460)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: ebony crawly locus marketing idea

xo Liz Holmes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606040)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line

I hope the Department of Justice comes down hard on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606897)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Flesh galvanic school cafeteria

Because of the crazy psychopathic look in her eyes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606917)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: Titillating Outnumbered Personal Credit Line

I guess. I don't really have a logical justification for my comment. I just have a deeply visceral negative reaction to this Lizzie Holmes character.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606930)



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Date: March 14th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: odious nursing home masturbator

lmao

For instance, Holmes and Balwani told one investor that Theranos' proprietary analyzer could process over 1,000 Current Procedural Terminology ('CPT') codes and that Theranos had developed a technological solution for an additional 300 CPT codes," even though "Theranos' analyzers never performed comprehensive testing or processed 1,000 CPT codes in its clinical lab," and in fact never processed more than 12 tests on its TSPU. 5 And Theranos would even do a little pantomime blood-draw demonstration directly on the investors:

This initial meeting was often followed by a purported demonstration of Theranos' proprietary analyzers, the TSPU, and the miniLab. In several instances, potential investors would be taken by Holmes and Balwani to a different room to view Theranos' desktop computer-like analyzers. A phlebotomist would arrive to draw their blood through fingerstick, using a nanotainer, a Theranos-developed collection device. Then the sample was either inserted into the TSPU or taken away for processing. Based on what they saw, potential investors believed that Theranos had tested their blood on either an earlier-generation TSPU or the miniLab. As Holmes knew, or was reckless in not knowing, however, Theranos often actually tested their blood on third-party analyzers, because Theranos could not conduct all of the tests it offered prospective investors on its proprietary analyzers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35606941)



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Date: March 15th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: greedy address son of senegal

A justice is performed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35611981)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Anal wonderful nowag pit

TCR. Shitlibbery in our justice system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626433)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Primrose stirring cuck

yep, way worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#35626897)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: Soul-stirring dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722583)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Peach curious organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43706271)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:15 PM
Author: Rose comical trust fund macaca

She should be going away for 20 years. Anything less is a disgrace to the legal system. She committed a giant public fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43706309)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:32 PM
Author: cocky autistic quadroon

women get treated w kid gloves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722600)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 4:31 PM
Author: Fragrant Spruce Partner Tanning Salon

Shkreli did nothing wrong but make enemies in high places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43722596)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 8:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring dysfunction

tbf, so did Holmes. but she fucked em out of a billion along the way. Shkreli just thumbed his nose at them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43723805)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 9:42 PM
Author: Mint Mind-boggling Milk

if you thumb your nose at kiyo matsumoto, 7 years for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#43724357)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:07 AM
Author: Peach curious organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213388)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:18 AM
Author: Primrose stirring cuck

"Until a drug company executive goes to jail, this won’t stop. They simply say, ‘We’re going to kill X many people, injure Y. Of those, only A percent will know, and of those, only B percent will be able to do something about it.’ Factor all this into the price of doing business, including payoffs to the families of the ones they kill, and they’re still making huge profits. Whether someone is actually so diabolical as to put it into those words, or whether it’s just the way things work out, I don’t know. The result is the same."

-Crisis of Conscience: Whistleblowing in an Age of Fraud, by Tom Mueller



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213457)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:19 AM
Author: Primrose stirring cuck

Given the level of corruption and human harm he encountered, Jones insists that he had no real choice: he was compelled to blow the whistle, because inaction would have made him an accessory to the crime. In this telling, there is an inevitability to what happened, as if he were the protagonist in a Greek tragedy, walking the path that the Fates had foretold.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3918632&forum_id=2#44213462)