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Anyone stuck professionally at age ~30? I basically have nowhere to go
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi Took a non-traditional job that promoted me which is cool but I don't have any transferable skills because I am a generalist in nearly every area and a specialist in things that are very specific to my current company.
Is the only credited path here to get an MBA? |
Date: March 16th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: electric transparent hell Title? Industry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621058) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi Think like "Senior Compliance Counsel" or something like that. Regulated industry like tech/health/finance.
It's funny ever since getting the "Senior" title my LinkedIn has started to blow up, but none of the jobs out there are things I can actually do. I mean I literally don't know enough. I'm basically a quasi-lawyer, quasi-business dude, and that means I'm a jack of all trades master of none. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:12 PM Author: electric transparent hell So you're a lawyer?
Just do go solo. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:12 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi I can't go solo; I edited my post, master of nothing, maybe, maybe I could be like a consultant for law firms who do my area of work, but I'm a phony fraud I can't do the work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621096) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:14 PM Author: electric transparent hell Quit being a fucking faggot. Where do you get the absurd idea that you need to know everything about a new job before you start it? You sound like such a fuckgni faggot I can't even..... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621112) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi 1. yuge risk of being pwned quickly if you lie too much about what you can do
2. I likely can't even get hired given my background |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: electric transparent hell YOU HAVE TO TAKE RISKS TO MAEK IT DUMBASSS FAGGOT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621137) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:22 PM Author: fluffy twinkling uncleanness mental disorder CR.
Took me way too long to appreciate this. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi "just start a business" isn't realistic
I'm willing to take risks but I don't have anything to take a risk on |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: Titillating Friendly Grandma School "take risks" -> lie about your skills and experience like everyone else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621216) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: lascivious bull headed chapel goyim The Obstacle is the Way, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621169) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621171) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 9:06 PM Author: lascivious bull headed chapel goyim Worst case you're out $20. Best case you change your entire life. https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=the+obstacle+is+the+way&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=241651553404&hvpos=1t2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4789579028266544439&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027599&hvtargid=kwd-80488762254&ref=pd_sl_5t2qgy3b8h_e (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622622) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:13 PM Author: claret up-to-no-good space bbw By the time you get to your level, there's a lot less upward mobility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621105) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi 1. What is my "level?" My a paper jockey for a mid-sized company.
2. Are people seriously stuck in these jobs for 20, 30 years?
I would legitimately consider suicide.
I see boomers and their bios and it's ridiculous. 3 years at this. 3 years at that. Moving up all the while. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:18 PM Author: vivacious domesticated shrine you could be stuck I hard reset at 30 jesus fucking christ still getting back together at 32 but worth it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621155) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:21 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi This is going to make me consider suicide all weekend. Can you explain. How were you stuck? What did you do?
Am I seriously stuck in this forever? Is there not some level where you eventually get a title and experience and can move around a little bit? It seems like boomers got to industry hop all the fucking time. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi plz respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621215) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:52 PM Author: vivacious domesticated shrine natural to feel this way at 30
all I can say is that don't focus so much on pay, etc. think about what you want. at 25 I wanted a big city life. at 30 I wanted a house, not to be a wagecuck.
not sure if I'll ever make what I did before but I have a better life in ARE country for less money. better women, everything. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: Racy Splenetic Tanning Salon 30 is nothing ur still young friend
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi I know that's what I have on my side and no student debt so I'm wondering if I need to take drastic measures like an MBA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621124) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: electric transparent hell MBA is just a way for you to hide out like a faggot and not take any risks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621132) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi I could blend my experience and perhaps have a shot for VP/COO kind of roles.
I was lucky to get my job in the first place, I don't have big firm experience or any of the other things most VPs/C-suite people in my area have. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:18 PM Author: electric transparent hell First of all -- you're obviously too much of a faggot for proper management roles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621156) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:19 PM Author: Racy Splenetic Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621165) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:19 PM Author: Racy Splenetic Tanning Salon what is your current/long term earning potential in this specialty? do ou actually like it, want to do it long term? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621162) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi Currently I make about 175K all-in with bonus. It's actually above industry standard so it's even harder for me to move around because I can't get a job that pays this much.
I like what I do but I don't want to stay at my current company forever. You get bored and you start to hate the red tape and all the little things about the job. I want the opportunity to do something more. The "C-suite" at my current job are not that impressive. I just can't get a path to get in there.
I just don't want to be stuck in the same job when I am 60 and that's an actual possibility it seems. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: Racy Splenetic Tanning Salon so you like the work but not the company. what is the growth potential in your industry? are there other better cos that hire for what you do, or are they all pretty much the same? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621223) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi all are the same or worse
like current job but it's the end of the line for me; I work in a secondary office so I can't make it to the c-suite; I can get 2-3% salary bumps but that's like 150-250K range if I stayed here forever
my industry has a lot of growth, there's no question there, it's just that my particular niche in the industry requires me being more specialized and I simply won't be in my current job
so I feel stuck, because I am a generalist, and because I am overpaid so I can't move w/o a pay cut, and likely a harder job too (current role is cushy) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: Titillating Friendly Grandma School 175k in some corporate job is doing pretty well at 30. stop complaining. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621229) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 6:07 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi what about in a lawyer corporate job? does that change anything because it's not nearly as good as firm lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621527) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: vivacious domesticated shrine start a business, faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621145) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:18 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi I'm hoping one of my friends from college hits it big and then I can work with them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621149) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: electric transparent hell Holy shit, you think like such a faggot.
Your really expect to get somewhere in life without taking any risk? |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:21 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi it would be pretty risky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621173) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: Razzle Flushed Rigpig Alpha Maybe become independent consultant and work with specialist consultants that you can farm shit out to as necessary. You'll provide the value that you can while also steering clients to the right specialists and take a cut.
Alternatively, you sound like a decent candidate for MBA but given your salary it might not payoff for a while unless you can get your company to pay for it or something. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621219) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:54 PM Author: misunderstood pistol What’s the best way to find clients as a consultant? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621416) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 9:08 PM Author: Razzle Flushed Rigpig Alpha Industry experience or possibly some sort of connection. Gotta have a high demand or rare skill, or be able to generally solve problems/improve shit in industry/corporate setting and know the people who have those problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622632) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:53 PM Author: chrome marvelous coldplay fan Get an online HR master's degree and work your way up to HR director - make good $$$ and have no real responsibilities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621406) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:53 PM Author: vivacious domesticated shrine lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621408) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:55 PM Author: chrome marvelous coldplay fan This is my plan, but i'm also female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621424) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: Amber Church Building You’re thinking about this all wrong. You don’t apply to jobs describing whatever experience you actually have. I worked on almost exclusively securities lit in biglaw and that had zero transferability anywhere. You apply to jobs and bluff about what you do. Put “senior counsel” as your title.
If you really are in tech/health/finance, those are huge industries with tons of legal jobs. You prob have to stay a lawyer but get a better lawyer job than the one you have if you feel stuck. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 6:07 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi ty nutella.
1. Isn't "senior counsel" as opposed to "senior ___ counsel" almost an assured way of getting screwed when HR does a background check? pretty big lie of omission ... does it really matter? senior ___ counsel is still a senior counsel of sorts
2. The problem is that I don't have a BIGLAW background, I'm not really that smart, and I am a generalist in my job, so all of the legal work in this area is for people like you, not for me
That's why I am considering an MBA as a path to something else |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621869) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Amber Church Building During a background check, former employers generally only confirm dates worked, not title. Also the person doing the background check isn’t looking at your resume and even if they are comparing, the idea that “senior counsel” is somehow a lie from “senior compliance counsel” or whatever doesn’t even cross HR’s mind. It’s a lie if you say “senior counsel” and your title was “senior admin assistant.”
Also you have something even better than a biglaw background; you are already in house and in house prefers to hire in house over biglaw. Being smart and having biglaw doesn’t matter at all. Nobody in big law has anything over you.
The MBA route is stupid. If youre really not that smart, you prob can’t get into a top 10 program anyway and you can spend a shit ton of money only to come out with a job that pays significantly less than what you currently get paid at the same company or industry. In fact all the MBAs I know with some generic corporate strategy job at P&G or whatever are being paid the same as you.
Stick in your path. You just need to get more creative about selling your experience. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:29 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi ty
does my MBA idea seem absurd or is it justified if I think I am too much of a generalist to survive in another role where I may not be able to hack it |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:33 PM Author: Gold Persian it only makes sense if you get your current employer to pay for it, imo. sure, it seems like an easy immediate solution, but it more than likely isn't an optimal one, and it's too expensive to just give it go yolo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622098) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:45 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi yeah it would be paid for so that's not a problem but it would be a regional program although not a bad school name, and a part time evening deal so I would continue working, but nutella has a point it might not get me anywhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622167) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:41 PM Author: Amber Church Building I edited my response to address the mba thing before I saw this.
I think you’re under the impression that somehow your “generalist” knowledge is a detriment. It’s actually an advantage because you have broad exposure to a wide range of things such that you can basically apply to any position and pretend you’re a specialist in that area. You need to learn to just bs your way through an interview. Once you get the job, you will learn on the job quickly. No job in the corporate world is rocket science that requires any real specialized knowledge that you can’t pick up quickly. |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:44 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi ty, I was thinking of picking up a book that specializes in some areas of law I might need to know for other positions, to help with the BSing, I really appreciated the advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622160) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:43 PM Author: misunderstood pistol 180 advice here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622152) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35621935) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 9:02 PM Author: purple thirsty corner wrinkle MBA makes zero sense if you already make 175 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622595) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: misunderstood pistol Higher ceiling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35622610) |
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Date: March 16th, 2018 9:06 PM Author: purple thirsty corner wrinkle maybe, but after two years out of the workforce + debt it's a tough sell.
I guess if you insist on, and can land, a high finance role or are committed to consulting it's worth it. Otherwise no.
F500 roles out of top MBAs are making way less than 175k. |
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Date: March 17th, 2018 12:52 AM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi let's me work on the business side of things, but i wouldn't have any debt if that means anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35624353) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: razzmatazz plum private investor fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3920667&forum_id=2#35632970) |