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Did people prove Amy Wax wrong about black law students at Penn?

i read a statement saying they did
talented spruce garrison
  03/17/18
of course not
Learning disabled pearly coffee pot
  03/17/18
Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in th...
Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat
  03/17/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&fo...
Learning disabled pearly coffee pot
  03/17/18
Her statements were categorically rejected bro.
violent adulterous death wish stead
  03/17/18
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Maize dashing scourge upon the earth dopamine
  03/18/18
Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven &qu...
spectacular home
  03/17/18
Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do ...
Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary
  03/17/18
link to statement please?
talented spruce garrison
  03/17/18
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for...
Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary
  03/17/18
just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...sh...
talented spruce garrison
  03/17/18
I thought she said that no black student had ever finished i...
Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat
  03/17/18
She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarte...
Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary
  03/17/18
are there always black students on Penn's law review? then t...
mischievous national security agency office
  03/17/18
...
Vigorous light space
  03/19/18
the school just said black students "have graduated in ...
talented spruce garrison
  03/17/18
Interesting they did not say “quarter.”
histrionic library
  03/17/18
Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossi...
Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat
  03/17/18
the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate&...
contagious pearl laser beams
  03/17/18
Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but: Sixteen editors shall ...
electric fanboi
  03/18/18
check out this reaction thread https://7sage.com/discussi...
talented spruce garrison
  03/18/18
Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas ...
talented spruce garrison
  03/18/18
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-s...
Grizzly razzle-dazzle hospital trump supporter
  03/19/18
debunked. thoroughly debunked.
Hilarious Selfie Base
  03/20/18
...
Learning disabled pearly coffee pot
  12/26/21


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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

i read a statement saying they did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628262)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Learning disabled pearly coffee pot

of course not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628267)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat

Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in the top half of his/her class? If so, that can’t be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628278)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Learning disabled pearly coffee pot

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628338)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: violent adulterous death wish stead

Her statements were categorically rejected bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628271)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Maize dashing scourge upon the earth dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633715)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: spectacular home

Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven "right" indepedent of context (slavery, Jim Crow)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628272)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary

Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do finish in the top half and have successful careers. Neither statement contradicts Wax at all but she is RACIST. You aren't a racist are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628276)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

link to statement please?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628294)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for-racial-remarks-trnd/index.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628314)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...she didn't say "never" graduate in top half. just "rarely"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat

I thought she said that no black student had ever finished in the top half. Or did she qualify it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628308)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Bisexual Beta Toilet Seat Sanctuary

She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarter, and said they were rarely in the top half. She also claimed there was a diversity quota for the law review, which the school denies but I don't believe for an instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628325)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: mischievous national security agency office

are there always black students on Penn's law review? then there's a quota.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628334)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: Vigorous light space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636622)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

the school just said black students "have graduated in the top of the class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628335)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: histrionic library

Interesting they did not say “quarter.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628687)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: Marvelous hairless nursing home kitty cat

Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossible to disprove, conclusively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628337)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: contagious pearl laser beams

the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate" but didn't say that the ethnicity of applicants did not bear on the decision to extend invitations to join

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628528)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: electric fanboi

Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but:

Sixteen editors shall be selected through a holistic but anonymous review that takes into account all available information. The Review remains strongly committed to a diverse and inclusive membership.

Applicants who wish to make aspects of their identity available through the Law Review's holistic consideration process will have the opportunity to indicate their racial or ethnic identity, physical disability status, gender identity, sexual orientation, and socioeconomic status. Applicants also have the option of submitting an expository statement of no more than 150 words that identifies and describes aspects of their background not fully captured by the categories provided on the form. Statements will be considered by the Selection Committee only after grading of the Subcite and Case Comment sections of the competition has been completed. Statements will remain anonymous and will not be evaluated for quality of writing or editing, nor will they be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633704)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

check out this reaction thread

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15567/amy-wax-upenn-law-controversy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633524)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: talented spruce garrison

Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas in law school? OF COURSE:

https://ianayres.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/AyresBrooksResponse.pdf

Richard Sander’s study of affirmative action at U.S. law schools highlights a real and

serious problem: the average black law student’s grades are jaw-droppingly low. 1 With

the exception of traditionally black law schools (where blacks still make up 43.8% of the

student body), the median black law school grade point average is at the 6.7 percentile of

white law students.

2

This means that only 6.7% of whites have lower grades than 50% of

blacks. One finds similar result if look at the other end of the distribution – only 7.5% of

blacks have grades that are higher than the white median.

This point has been observed previously by a number of scholars. See e.g., Gita Wilder, The Road to Law

School and Beyond: Examining Challenges to Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Legal Profession (LSAC

Research Report, 02-01 (August 2003), especially pages 21-26; Timothy Clydesdale, A Forked River

Runs Through the Law School, October 2004 issue of Law and Social Inquiry; David Chambers, Get Title,

52 Buffalo L. Rev. 569-576 (March 2004).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633700)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: Grizzly razzle-dazzle hospital trump supporter

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-saying-122136081.html

>> Ruger said Wax violated school policy by mentioning student grades to back up her argument. <<

And there it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636613)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: Hilarious Selfie Base

debunked. thoroughly debunked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35644046)



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Date: December 26th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Learning disabled pearly coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#43680477)