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Did people prove Amy Wax wrong about black law students at Penn?

i read a statement saying they did
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/17/18
of course not
Lilac yapping site
  03/17/18
Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in th...
Violent soul-stirring boistinker
  03/17/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&fo...
Lilac yapping site
  03/17/18
Her statements were categorically rejected bro.
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  03/17/18
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Flatulent heaven
  03/18/18
Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven &qu...
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  03/17/18
Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do ...
Concupiscible Den
  03/17/18
link to statement please?
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/17/18
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for...
Concupiscible Den
  03/17/18
just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...sh...
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/17/18
I thought she said that no black student had ever finished i...
Violent soul-stirring boistinker
  03/17/18
She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarte...
Concupiscible Den
  03/17/18
are there always black students on Penn's law review? then t...
cream office
  03/17/18
...
Arousing chartreuse range marketing idea
  03/19/18
the school just said black students "have graduated in ...
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/17/18
Interesting they did not say “quarter.”
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  03/17/18
Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossi...
Violent soul-stirring boistinker
  03/17/18
the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate&...
fuchsia wrinkle
  03/17/18
Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but: Sixteen editors shall ...
stimulating topaz abode
  03/18/18
check out this reaction thread https://7sage.com/discussi...
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/18/18
Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas ...
Marvelous brilliant station
  03/18/18
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-s...
translucent principal's office
  03/19/18
debunked. thoroughly debunked.
avocado crawly people who are hurt
  03/20/18
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Lilac yapping site
  12/26/21


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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

i read a statement saying they did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628262)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Lilac yapping site

of course not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628267)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Violent soul-stirring boistinker

Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in the top half of his/her class? If so, that can’t be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628278)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Lilac yapping site

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628338)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: ultramarine tanning salon love of her life

Her statements were categorically rejected bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628271)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Flatulent heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633715)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: tantric gaming laptop

Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven "right" indepedent of context (slavery, Jim Crow)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628272)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: Concupiscible Den

Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do finish in the top half and have successful careers. Neither statement contradicts Wax at all but she is RACIST. You aren't a racist are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628276)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

link to statement please?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628294)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Concupiscible Den

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for-racial-remarks-trnd/index.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628314)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...she didn't say "never" graduate in top half. just "rarely"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Violent soul-stirring boistinker

I thought she said that no black student had ever finished in the top half. Or did she qualify it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628308)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible Den

She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarter, and said they were rarely in the top half. She also claimed there was a diversity quota for the law review, which the school denies but I don't believe for an instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628325)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: cream office

are there always black students on Penn's law review? then there's a quota.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628334)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: Arousing chartreuse range marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636622)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

the school just said black students "have graduated in the top of the class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628335)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: thriller stag film organic girlfriend

Interesting they did not say “quarter.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628687)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: Violent soul-stirring boistinker

Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossible to disprove, conclusively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628337)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: fuchsia wrinkle

the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate" but didn't say that the ethnicity of applicants did not bear on the decision to extend invitations to join

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628528)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: stimulating topaz abode

Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but:

Sixteen editors shall be selected through a holistic but anonymous review that takes into account all available information. The Review remains strongly committed to a diverse and inclusive membership.

Applicants who wish to make aspects of their identity available through the Law Review's holistic consideration process will have the opportunity to indicate their racial or ethnic identity, physical disability status, gender identity, sexual orientation, and socioeconomic status. Applicants also have the option of submitting an expository statement of no more than 150 words that identifies and describes aspects of their background not fully captured by the categories provided on the form. Statements will be considered by the Selection Committee only after grading of the Subcite and Case Comment sections of the competition has been completed. Statements will remain anonymous and will not be evaluated for quality of writing or editing, nor will they be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633704)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

check out this reaction thread

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15567/amy-wax-upenn-law-controversy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633524)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Marvelous brilliant station

Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas in law school? OF COURSE:

https://ianayres.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/AyresBrooksResponse.pdf

Richard Sander’s study of affirmative action at U.S. law schools highlights a real and

serious problem: the average black law student’s grades are jaw-droppingly low. 1 With

the exception of traditionally black law schools (where blacks still make up 43.8% of the

student body), the median black law school grade point average is at the 6.7 percentile of

white law students.

2

This means that only 6.7% of whites have lower grades than 50% of

blacks. One finds similar result if look at the other end of the distribution – only 7.5% of

blacks have grades that are higher than the white median.

This point has been observed previously by a number of scholars. See e.g., Gita Wilder, The Road to Law

School and Beyond: Examining Challenges to Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Legal Profession (LSAC

Research Report, 02-01 (August 2003), especially pages 21-26; Timothy Clydesdale, A Forked River

Runs Through the Law School, October 2004 issue of Law and Social Inquiry; David Chambers, Get Title,

52 Buffalo L. Rev. 569-576 (March 2004).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633700)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: translucent principal's office

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-saying-122136081.html

>> Ruger said Wax violated school policy by mentioning student grades to back up her argument. <<

And there it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636613)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: avocado crawly people who are hurt

debunked. thoroughly debunked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35644046)



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Date: December 26th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Lilac yapping site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#43680477)