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Did people prove Amy Wax wrong about black law students at Penn?

i read a statement saying they did
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/17/18
of course not
Pink School
  03/17/18
Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in th...
diverse market roast beef
  03/17/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&fo...
Pink School
  03/17/18
Her statements were categorically rejected bro.
transparent zippy parlor
  03/17/18
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crystalline floppy weed whacker base
  03/18/18
Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven &qu...
gaped address
  03/17/18
Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do ...
iridescent massive place of business kitchen
  03/17/18
link to statement please?
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/17/18
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for...
iridescent massive place of business kitchen
  03/17/18
just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...sh...
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/17/18
I thought she said that no black student had ever finished i...
diverse market roast beef
  03/17/18
She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarte...
iridescent massive place of business kitchen
  03/17/18
are there always black students on Penn's law review? then t...
Translucent Supple Nowag
  03/17/18
...
alcoholic bull headed brunch water buffalo
  03/19/18
the school just said black students "have graduated in ...
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/17/18
Interesting they did not say “quarter.”
rose thirsty gay wizard juggernaut
  03/17/18
Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossi...
diverse market roast beef
  03/17/18
the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate&...
Dark exciting new version field
  03/17/18
Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but: Sixteen editors shall ...
deep institution
  03/18/18
check out this reaction thread https://7sage.com/discussi...
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/18/18
Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas ...
razzle sienna trailer park
  03/18/18
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-s...
Chestnut stage therapy
  03/19/18
debunked. thoroughly debunked.
marvelous scarlet masturbator
  03/20/18
...
Pink School
  12/26/21


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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

i read a statement saying they did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628262)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Pink School

of course not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628267)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: diverse market roast beef

Didn’t she say that a black student has never finished in the top half of his/her class? If so, that can’t be right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628278)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Pink School

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628338)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: transparent zippy parlor

Her statements were categorically rejected bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628271)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: crystalline floppy weed whacker base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633715)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: gaped address

Lol at thinking something like that could ever be proven "right" indepedent of context (slavery, Jim Crow)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628272)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: iridescent massive place of business kitchen

Penn has issued a statement claiming that black students do finish in the top half and have successful careers. Neither statement contradicts Wax at all but she is RACIST. You aren't a racist are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628276)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

link to statement please?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628294)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: iridescent massive place of business kitchen

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/penn-removes-professor-for-racial-remarks-trnd/index.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628314)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

just saw it. it's totally consistent with what she said...she didn't say "never" graduate in top half. just "rarely"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628303)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: diverse market roast beef

I thought she said that no black student had ever finished in the top half. Or did she qualify it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628308)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: iridescent massive place of business kitchen

She said she couldn't recall one finishing in the top quarter, and said they were rarely in the top half. She also claimed there was a diversity quota for the law review, which the school denies but I don't believe for an instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628325)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: Translucent Supple Nowag

are there always black students on Penn's law review? then there's a quota.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628334)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: alcoholic bull headed brunch water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636622)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

the school just said black students "have graduated in the top of the class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628335)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: rose thirsty gay wizard juggernaut

Interesting they did not say “quarter.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628687)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: diverse market roast beef

Ok. All of that is probably true or at least fairly impossible to disprove, conclusively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628337)



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Date: March 17th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: Dark exciting new version field

the dean's letter said there was no "diversity mandate" but didn't say that the ethnicity of applicants did not bear on the decision to extend invitations to join

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35628528)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: deep institution

Yup, no “mandate” at Harvard, but:

Sixteen editors shall be selected through a holistic but anonymous review that takes into account all available information. The Review remains strongly committed to a diverse and inclusive membership.

Applicants who wish to make aspects of their identity available through the Law Review's holistic consideration process will have the opportunity to indicate their racial or ethnic identity, physical disability status, gender identity, sexual orientation, and socioeconomic status. Applicants also have the option of submitting an expository statement of no more than 150 words that identifies and describes aspects of their background not fully captured by the categories provided on the form. Statements will be considered by the Selection Committee only after grading of the Subcite and Case Comment sections of the competition has been completed. Statements will remain anonymous and will not be evaluated for quality of writing or editing, nor will they be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633704)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

check out this reaction thread

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/15567/amy-wax-upenn-law-controversy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633524)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: razzle sienna trailer park

Haven't there actually been studies on black and white gpas in law school? OF COURSE:

https://ianayres.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/AyresBrooksResponse.pdf

Richard Sander’s study of affirmative action at U.S. law schools highlights a real and

serious problem: the average black law student’s grades are jaw-droppingly low. 1 With

the exception of traditionally black law schools (where blacks still make up 43.8% of the

student body), the median black law school grade point average is at the 6.7 percentile of

white law students.

2

This means that only 6.7% of whites have lower grades than 50% of

blacks. One finds similar result if look at the other end of the distribution – only 7.5% of

blacks have grades that are higher than the white median.

This point has been observed previously by a number of scholars. See e.g., Gita Wilder, The Road to Law

School and Beyond: Examining Challenges to Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Legal Profession (LSAC

Research Report, 02-01 (August 2003), especially pages 21-26; Timothy Clydesdale, A Forked River

Runs Through the Law School, October 2004 issue of Law and Social Inquiry; David Chambers, Get Title,

52 Buffalo L. Rev. 569-576 (March 2004).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35633700)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: Chestnut stage therapy

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/penn-law-professor-demoted-saying-122136081.html

>> Ruger said Wax violated school policy by mentioning student grades to back up her argument. <<

And there it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35636613)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: marvelous scarlet masturbator

debunked. thoroughly debunked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#35644046)



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Date: December 26th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Pink School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921642&forum_id=2#43680477)