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Most important "conservative" idea is that societies do not PROGRESS

Technology progresses, medicine progresses, nutrition tries ...
Shivering Stage Circlehead
  03/20/18
But societies DO progress! Slavery is illegal now, for one ...
Crimson vigorous rehab
  03/20/18
o really? there are more slaves now than at any time in huma...
Shivering Stage Circlehead
  03/20/18
you're making some great arguments for dismantling capitalis...
Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan
  03/20/18
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Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker
  03/20/18
Slavery is not exclusive to capitalism lmao "Hey guys,...
Lascivious public bath mediation
  03/20/18
ending slavery is not the sole aim of dismantling capitalism...
Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan
  03/20/18
O what a logical utilitarian with no conception of proportio...
Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker
  03/20/18
It is extraordinarily frustrating sometimes. I dont know if ...
Crimson vigorous rehab
  03/20/18
...
purple gay wizard
  03/20/18
U-grad mentality. There's definitely a lot of "fuck the...
mustard contagious idiot point
  03/20/18
I’m an aspergers stemlord myself, so that’s not an excuse fo...
Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker
  03/20/18
fair. Please contribute more to the boart in that context! ...
Crimson vigorous rehab
  03/20/18
You are playing semantics which I am trying to avoid. Slave...
Crimson vigorous rehab
  03/20/18
slavery is illegal in the US, but we've just outsourced the ...
rose wagecucks faggotry
  03/20/18
Yes, for us in the United States
cracking principal's office crotch
  05/02/18
OP, would you rate this idea as better or worse than your gi...
Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan
  03/20/18
better. thanks for the readership, btw :)
Shivering Stage Circlehead
  03/20/18
big fan of your work
Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan
  03/20/18
he is a true scholar. other 105 IQmos should be inspired
wonderful twinkling multi-billionaire
  03/20/18
...
Soul-stirring ocher legal warrant
  03/20/18
credited. for example, the industrial revolution and its...
arousing cream center
  03/20/18
standard of living went up dramatically. But is this th...
Crimson vigorous rehab
  03/20/18
well yeah in the future we will probably have better antidep...
arousing cream center
  03/20/18
Postmodernism is the basis of all conservative thought.
Peach Blood Rage Background Story
  03/20/18
i dont think conservatism means this but i guess you want to...
Sienna cheese-eating round eye
  03/20/18
He seems to be arguing that social progress is a category mi...
Peach Blood Rage Background Story
  03/20/18
Hmm
Excitant hyperventilating potus
  05/02/18
(guy who just read his first moldbug blog post)
kink-friendly slate library
  05/02/18


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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Shivering Stage Circlehead

Technology progresses, medicine progresses, nutrition tries to progress, but there is nothing BETTER about any society just because it came LATER.

This idea, that we are progressing, is so ubiquitous and dogmatic that it's almost hard to step outside of it. I think even the most ardent conservatives sometimes fail to eschew it.

But once it is accepted as a given, shitlibbery is built to win every argument. Once exposed and examined, however, it crumbles immediately. Why on earth would it be true that human society is progressing? Without pulling a switcheroo and talking about technology, how could anyone make any case that any society is better because it came later?

Conservatives need to talk about this non-stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644411)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Crimson vigorous rehab

But societies DO progress! Slavery is illegal now, for one obvious example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644418)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: Shivering Stage Circlehead

o really? there are more slaves now than at any time in human history. If you want to limit your consideration to the USA (and somehow overlook how the american economy still relies on these global slaves), than you would have to ask if a post-slavery society is better and happier for all than the society that existed before the civil war. It might be, but not necessarily. It's certainly better for the 10% of african americans, but sadly that's not my only criterion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644439)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan

you're making some great arguments for dismantling capitalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644456)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644615)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Lascivious public bath mediation

Slavery is not exclusive to capitalism lmao

"Hey guys, don't yall know the Romans we're really capitalists? They had slaves!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644763)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan

ending slavery is not the sole aim of dismantling capitalism lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644792)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker

O what a logical utilitarian with no conception of proportionality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644559)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Crimson vigorous rehab

It is extraordinarily frustrating sometimes. I dont know if it is aspergers or just undergraduate mentality or what but this is a common autoadmit affliction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644572)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: purple gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644580)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: mustard contagious idiot point

U-grad mentality. There's definitely a lot of "fuck the experts" and broad stroke philosophical screeds on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644603)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Ruby fluffy abode candlestick maker

I’m an aspergers stemlord myself, so that’s not an excuse for bullheaded obtuseness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644628)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:24 AM
Author: Crimson vigorous rehab

fair. Please contribute more to the boart in that context! Can be helpful to see legit aspie responses to things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644677)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Crimson vigorous rehab

You are playing semantics which I am trying to avoid. Slavery is now illegal as a matter of law. You dont see chained slaves owned by another human being when you are out and about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644563)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: rose wagecucks faggotry

slavery is illegal in the US, but we've just outsourced the slavery

can you say outsourcing slavery is progress over nearshoring it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644574)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: cracking principal's office crotch

Yes, for us in the United States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35966767)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan

OP, would you rate this idea as better or worse than your girls that do yoga = bad post from yesterday?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644419)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Shivering Stage Circlehead

better. thanks for the readership, btw :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644421)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Harsh cruise ship coldplay fan

big fan of your work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644425)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: wonderful twinkling multi-billionaire

he is a true scholar. other 105 IQmos should be inspired

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644582)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Soul-stirring ocher legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644459)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: arousing cream center

credited.

for example, the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644540)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: Crimson vigorous rehab

standard of living went up dramatically.

But is this the sort of "progress" we are talking about?

I envy the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644607)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: arousing cream center

well yeah in the future we will probably have better antidepressants for people like you who need them despite our higher standard of living

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644730)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:42 AM
Author: Peach Blood Rage Background Story

Postmodernism is the basis of all conservative thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644803)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: Sienna cheese-eating round eye

i dont think conservatism means this but i guess you want to attack a strawman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35644887)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Peach Blood Rage Background Story

He seems to be arguing that social progress is a category mistake, that the goodness of societies are not comparable, and that cons are right in believing this.

Though that rests on postmodern principles most cons would not believe are true. Most cons think progressive "progress" is a net bad, ie not progress, which means they believe comparisons are possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35645098)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Excitant hyperventilating potus

Hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35966637)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: kink-friendly slate library

(guy who just read his first moldbug blog post)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923612&forum_id=2#35966782)