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Petition to convince DTP to try out Testosterone Replacement Therapy
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Date: March 20th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth I am a full-natty bro, but I'm very knowledgeable about AAS / PEDs / TRT / etc. Ask away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35647751) |
Date: March 20th, 2018 6:27 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth Some scholarship on TRt for depresssion: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5209560/ |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: orange haunted graveyard "Based on whether the patients received TRT (injection with 1,000 mg testosterone undecanoate) or a placebo (advice to modify lifestyle), the study population was divided into a TRT group (n=54) and a control group (n=52)."
That is not a fucking placebo. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:53 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth Yes it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654673) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: orange haunted graveyard Flame? A placebo would be injecting patients with the lipid vehicle that the t-ester is in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654683) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:55 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth That would be a much much much better placebo.
Any benign treatment counts as a placebo though. |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648040) |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: Stimulating chapel Isn't it cardiotoxic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648051) |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth No.
Going beyond the recommended dose is bad for you heart because testosterone generally is associated with higher rates of heart disease -- but "cardiotoxic" is the wrong term.
Also, overall physiological improvements from TRT appear to outweigh the negative effects on the heart. That said, you should be sure to have a very good diet if you're on TRT. Also be sure to get the higher resolution cholesterol tests than can differentiate between the different types of LDL. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM Author: doobsian copper locus stock car Yes, highly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654479) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth *slightly and benefits may outweight risks because low testosterone highly correlates with risk of death.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4412415/ |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: lilac becky i will look into this more
some preliminary questions:
is this getting it from the black market, or from a prescription? i'm pretty sure i don't have actual low T
is it an injection with a needle or are there other delivery mechanisms? |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth Go to LifeExtenion.com, buy a test and go to a local labcorp. Get the basic male hormone panel. If you're concerned about hair and/or take finasteride, be sure to also get your DHT tested.
If you're legit in the middle or upper half of the normal range, don't bother with TRT.
If you're in the bottom of or below the range, give it a shot.
I've you're in the normal range, when you go to the doc for testing, go out drinking the night before and then do a heavy deadlift+Squat workout that morning. You will show up on the test with the Ttest levels of a 5 year old. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:30 PM Author: lilac becky i think there's a good chance i'm in the middle or upper range. you're saying i should BYPASS that and get a positive result anyway?
why not just get it from underground sources? |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth If you are in solid middle or upper middle range, then I think it's a toss up whether it's worth trying out. You will need a higher dose to get anything out of it, and that has additional risks.
UG lab test sucks. It's loaded with alcohol to keep it safe and that will cause lots of pain and immune system response. And it still will likely give you an infection eventually.
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM Author: diverse yellow water buffalo friendly grandma Is there a benefit doing it the testing and test via a local LabCorp than if you can do it on your health insurance? (Still trying to navigate/understand the us health system). Thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654485) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:37 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth If you do it through health insurance, you need to go through doc. The whole point is to avoid going through the doc for the first time until you get a sense of where you're out and how/whether you need to game the system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654497) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM Author: doobsian copper locus stock car do not use testosterone retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654481) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:40 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth You don't think curing his depression / anxiety is worth some slight increase risk of heart disease? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654533) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM Author: doobsian copper locus stock car because testosterone abusers are very stable emotionally? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654547) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth I'm recommending TRT if he meets the clinical criteria.
Also -- it's coming off gear, and using various more androgenic compounds that may lead to emotional instability.
TRT users become much more emotionally stable. |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: Sadistic pearl genital piercing rigor I really need to look into this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648062) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:28 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654414) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:32 PM Author: amethyst fortuitous meteor trump supporter spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654452) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth LJL -- a High T bro would never shoot up a school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654475) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:43 PM Author: amethyst fortuitous meteor trump supporter spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654567) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Orchid Milk Trust Fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654464) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: orange haunted graveyard Wilbur Mercer forcememing "Testosterone = Poison" ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654574) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: orange haunted graveyard If you do TRT, are you stuck for life pinning and doing regular blood work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654577) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: 180 Ratface Scourge Upon The Earth Testosterone Unecanoate will be approved in the US soon. You only need injection once every 6 months. Or you can do it orally every day. (Safe since it absorbs through lymphatic system and not liver)
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