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Petition to convince DTP to try out Testosterone Replacement Therapy
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Date: March 20th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm I am a full-natty bro, but I'm very knowledgeable about AAS / PEDs / TRT / etc. Ask away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35647751) |
Date: March 20th, 2018 6:27 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm Some scholarship on TRt for depresssion: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5209560/ |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Plum theater internal respiration "Based on whether the patients received TRT (injection with 1,000 mg testosterone undecanoate) or a placebo (advice to modify lifestyle), the study population was divided into a TRT group (n=54) and a control group (n=52)."
That is not a fucking placebo. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:53 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm Yes it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654673) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Plum theater internal respiration Flame? A placebo would be injecting patients with the lipid vehicle that the t-ester is in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654683) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:55 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm That would be a much much much better placebo.
Any benign treatment counts as a placebo though. |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648040) |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: beady-eyed cruise ship Isn't it cardiotoxic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648051) |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm No.
Going beyond the recommended dose is bad for you heart because testosterone generally is associated with higher rates of heart disease -- but "cardiotoxic" is the wrong term.
Also, overall physiological improvements from TRT appear to outweigh the negative effects on the heart. That said, you should be sure to have a very good diet if you're on TRT. Also be sure to get the higher resolution cholesterol tests than can differentiate between the different types of LDL. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Charismatic flickering mediation Yes, highly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654479) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm *slightly and benefits may outweight risks because low testosterone highly correlates with risk of death.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4412415/ |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: Thriller nibblets i will look into this more
some preliminary questions:
is this getting it from the black market, or from a prescription? i'm pretty sure i don't have actual low T
is it an injection with a needle or are there other delivery mechanisms? |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm Go to LifeExtenion.com, buy a test and go to a local labcorp. Get the basic male hormone panel. If you're concerned about hair and/or take finasteride, be sure to also get your DHT tested.
If you're legit in the middle or upper half of the normal range, don't bother with TRT.
If you're in the bottom of or below the range, give it a shot.
I've you're in the normal range, when you go to the doc for testing, go out drinking the night before and then do a heavy deadlift+Squat workout that morning. You will show up on the test with the Ttest levels of a 5 year old. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Thriller nibblets i think there's a good chance i'm in the middle or upper range. you're saying i should BYPASS that and get a positive result anyway?
why not just get it from underground sources? |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm If you are in solid middle or upper middle range, then I think it's a toss up whether it's worth trying out. You will need a higher dose to get anything out of it, and that has additional risks.
UG lab test sucks. It's loaded with alcohol to keep it safe and that will cause lots of pain and immune system response. And it still will likely give you an infection eventually.
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM Author: maize old irish cottage Is there a benefit doing it the testing and test via a local LabCorp than if you can do it on your health insurance? (Still trying to navigate/understand the us health system). Thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654485) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:37 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm If you do it through health insurance, you need to go through doc. The whole point is to avoid going through the doc for the first time until you get a sense of where you're out and how/whether you need to game the system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654497) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Charismatic flickering mediation do not use testosterone retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654481) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:40 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm You don't think curing his depression / anxiety is worth some slight increase risk of heart disease? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654533) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Charismatic flickering mediation because testosterone abusers are very stable emotionally? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654547) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm I'm recommending TRT if he meets the clinical criteria.
Also -- it's coming off gear, and using various more androgenic compounds that may lead to emotional instability.
TRT users become much more emotionally stable. |
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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: sexy piazza toaster I really need to look into this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648062) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:28 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654414) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:32 PM Author: concupiscible electric furnace spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654452) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm LJL -- a High T bro would never shoot up a school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654475) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:43 PM Author: concupiscible electric furnace spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654567) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM Author: comical degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654464) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Plum theater internal respiration Wilbur Mercer forcememing "Testosterone = Poison" ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654574) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Plum theater internal respiration If you do TRT, are you stuck for life pinning and doing regular blood work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654577) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM Author: slimy pisswyrm Testosterone Unecanoate will be approved in the US soon. You only need injection once every 6 months. Or you can do it orally every day. (Safe since it absorbs through lymphatic system and not liver)
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