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Interesting thing about this Russia controversy
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 AM Author: razzmatazz sickened circlehead native it's making libs very very hawkish in terms of foreign policy... all my lib friends now want to strengthen the military... they basically don't want to take any chances and are genuinely worried about other countries hacking our elections, turning off our power grids, etc.
it's making conservatives really dovish at the same time... they talk about how we shouldn't rush to conclusions... need to engage in diplomacy before we blame another powerful country for internal strife... they say that even if Russia hacked us, it likely didn't impact the final tally of the election and thus we shouldn't retaliate.
it almost feels like there is some benevolent plot by the media to control public opinion for something major coming up... don't have a clue what though, but I'm sure it's coming. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:25 AM Author: Rusted mediation I think we're getting dragged into a major war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650357) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:28 AM Author: razzmatazz sickened circlehead native I really hope not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650374) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Rusted mediation Same, but that's where I see everything converging towards. After Democrats win again (and they will), Republicans will use it as an opportunity to purge the party and restore the establishment. The establishment agrees 100% with the whole "we need to go to war with Russia, China, and anyone who doesn't support America's interests around the world" (see McCain, Graham, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650445) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:46 AM Author: razzmatazz sickened circlehead native and your thinking is that there won't be a counterbalance to that line of thinking because now Democrats are on board with hawkish policies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650461) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:47 AM Author: Rusted mediation Exactly. Though, I'll note that they were moving in that direction even before this (Clinton was extremely hawkish as SoS). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650467) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:55 AM Author: Narrow-minded talented trailer park We need diplomacy with the Chicoms; we need to punish the fuck out of your subhuman mafia leaders. You want asymmetrical warfare with your poisoning and election interference you'll get it in the form of a Western economic/banking pressure campaign that will freak out your oligarchs and fill your soup kitchens. Once Trump is gone you faggots are going to get the horns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650517) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:57 AM Author: Rusted mediation Yeah, that's totally going to end well and not in a huge fucking war, thereby proving my point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650531) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:00 AM Author: motley public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650557) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:03 AM Author: Narrow-minded talented trailer park You're going to start a shooting war if the West sanctions and debanks your security state leaders? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650577) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:04 AM Author: multi-colored thirsty church Yes. Because its not a shooting war Russia is going to lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650584) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:59 AM Author: multi-colored thirsty church https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/20/china-and-russia-aggressively-are-pursuing-hypersonic-weapons-general.html
You sanction Russia. Putin sinks your entire surface navy the whole of which is parked defenseless against his new missiles. Kinzhal has a 2,000km range. The Russkies dont even need to leave Russian waters to fuck up most of the US fleet. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:01 AM Author: multi-colored thirsty church Diplomacy over what? China will do to Taiwan what Russia did to Ukraine. There is nothing to talk about. Xi is never backing down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650567) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:16 AM Author: Rusted mediation Taiwan, S. China Sea, etc. The US, of course, makes it a certainty that Russia is 100% behind China too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650645) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:42 AM Author: twisted razzle-dazzle market Twist: it’s not making cons more dovish af all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650747) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Dashing base (neocon pumo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650749) |
Date: March 21st, 2018 12:48 AM Author: Dashing base Just goes to show how paper thin most people's policy convictions are, they are easily plied into serving the interests of their masters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650474) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:55 AM Author: Violet violent telephone This (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650515) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 9:27 AM Author: supple home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35690241) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 9:29 AM Author: Overrated forum yep you just can justify perfectly opposite stances at different times depending on the need. sick! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35690250) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:52 AM Author: Stirring water buffalo these aren't unusual swings. Conservatives were very isolationist during WWI and II (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650497) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:54 AM Author: motley public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650507) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:54 AM Author: Rusted mediation Just a note: the US ended up participating in both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650510) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:20 AM Author: cheese-eating parlor no one has defined what "hacked" actually means, which makes these claims about "russian interference" impossible to take seriously. hacked what? they changed the actual vote tabulations on voting machines? if not, then it seems like bullshit.
anyway, i don't think younger american whites are going to be willing to fight another white-presenting country. the mantra "no more brother wars" (in reference to WWI and II) is getting stronger among the demographic that would be expected to actually fight such a war. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Appetizing step-uncle's house this country is full of morons and doomed. blame our parents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35650750) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 9:29 AM Author: stimulating walnut whorehouse party of the first part you sound confused. i thought hillary, i.e. libs, were the hawkish ones. remember? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924303&forum_id=2#35690249) |