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AA is completely rational for elite libs, as it cuts out real competition
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:51 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison If elite admissions were purely meritocratic, little David Bankerstein might have to compete with a bunch of ARE COUNTRY proles with similar IQ, instead, we gum up 20–35% of elite admissions with blockheaded Mayans and Bantus who will flame out, leaving a clearer route to the top for David.
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:54 AM Author: Walnut spectacular mood feces and you can have 0% white gentiles and 40% kikes, and people will simply be happy 'white' people are underrepresented. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650770) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:54 PM Author: ungodly patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35657038) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:57 AM Author: dull halford library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650777) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:00 AM Author: judgmental honey-headed coldplay fan fat ankles rofl @ are country proles having jewish IQ. i laffed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650785) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:21 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison (actual moron who gets schooled by goys daily) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650837) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:25 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison DBG, come on, you have to be aware you're this bort's shining example of the brutal regression to the mean in American Jewry.
Trying to coast on the achievements of a bunch of midcentury Hungarians just isn't cutting it anymore. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:29 AM Author: dull halford library ? second sentence cr |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:39 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison what's hard about the first sentence? there's the Unz article which I think most people here have read, and you can find plenty of pieces online from Jewish sources talking about it, as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650879) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:12 AM Author: dull halford library DBG regressed to the mean? cmon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650982) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Exhilarant Olive Son Of Senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35652822) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 3:59 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison Jews have NO REASON to be afraid of flyover goyim
https://imgur.com/a/PzKT5 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:11 AM Author: Mentally impaired effete senate pervert (Jew who attended “Brown” ug and failed to crack 171 on LSAT) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651714) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:23 AM Author: fantasy-prone temple fanboi This thread is SPS. The elite will buy their way in regardless of AA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650844) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:25 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison (totally stable jew who thinks coastal UMC aren't "elite" because he seethes about the existence of richer people) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650851) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:28 AM Author: fantasy-prone temple fanboi (thinks the UMC is the elite but the rich aren’t) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650858) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:32 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison yes, that's the logical conclusion of what I wrote
so how hard did the LSAT pwn your circumcised dick? |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:41 AM Author: fantasy-prone temple fanboi Are you a member of a strange ethnic group? Most American males are circumcised. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650886) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 3:54 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison (non-responsive) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35650963) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:01 AM Author: Wild Cocky Tank seems more like AA, or whatever the new euphemism for it is now, is about keeping the student base heterogeneous so as to be more receptive to rootless globalism.
chaim goldstein's yidlet is still going to have to go up against the best of the best ARE country for the spots in the white set-aside, no matter how large it is,
where jews really screw over high IQ goys is the emphasis on bullshit softs that only well-connected types can pull off (created a tech startup at 13!) while joey christian is in boy scouts of 4x and gets dat DING. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:30 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison "chaim goldstein's yidlet is still going to have to go up against the best of the best ARE country for the spots in the white set-aside, no matter how large it is,"
objectively false
but also not the point. you see how credentials work to get into elite schools, now think about the doors the elite school opens later. if 20–30% of spots at elite schools are taken by people who have no chance in hell of making it, then they've reduced LONG-TERM competition from non-coastal UMC whites who are more deserving, because they didn't get dat credential in the first place, just like they didn't get the bullshit softs because no one played that game in Kansas. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:06 AM Author: heady rehab This is dumb. I went to a top public uni with are country bros and did no extracurriculurs and still got into HYS as a white dude. LSAT > 175 and gpa > 3.9 in STEM —> autosdmit.
Of course, I can tell you that are country bros in my uni were not doing the above because they are, in fact, dumb af. And they were the best are country had to offer that didn’t get into Ivey league, because of the quality of my public uni.
To edit this post: True elites don't care about AA because their children are genetically more intelligent, type A, and striverish than 99% of the rest of the population. If an elite has a kid that can't crack 175 on the LSAT, those parents will resign themselves to having had a "dumber" kid. The standards are high for true elites in a way many of the race realists on this site don't seem to understand |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison this isn't about law school admissions, you dolt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651829) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Jet-lagged regret Thought UVA would teach people how to spell "Ivey" correctly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35652282) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:52 PM Author: heady rehab My prole upbringing outing itself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35657021) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 2:07 PM Author: fighting travel guidebook I argued to some avail with a pole recently that true elites don't just coast ahead in life on having doors opened for them by their parents' money and connections, but they are actually just a little bit more intelligent, type-a, and hard working compared to the offspring of parents who are not highly successful and wealthy. He could not seem to let go of his view that it was entirely about connections and money and owed nothing to superior genetics why elite offspring succeed better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35653329) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:53 PM Author: heady rehab Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35657027) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:28 AM Author: puce spot There's geographic AA for rural proles (definitely not as advantageous as for blacks but still helpful). I'd argue that plain, smart white and Asian kids from Westchester or Long Island (or similar coastal suburb) are the ones that get hurt the most from Ivy league admissions. They're in schools that send kids to HYP every year, so they have to gun for one of a few spots in an intensely competitive environment. Anyway xo greatly overstates the impact of AA and elite school admissions. Rural America is suffering from a brain-drain as its smart young people take advantage of opportunities they've never had before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651778) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:42 AM Author: Multi-colored nowag garrison objectively false, once again, look at the fucking Unz article
people just throw around this "geographic AA" claim but have nothing to back it up other than this vague sense that it happens, and then lo & behold when you look at the data flyover whites are the most fucked |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:44 AM Author: glittery crimson market messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35652262) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Doobsian codepig parlour "geographic aa" seems like a theory held by MAF safety school-goers who ignore that even if what they perceive is actually happening, it's more likely the result of schools recognizing that, given equal (or perhaps even comparable) test scores and grades, between the proleville kid and umc striver spawn #763,261 with its SAT tutors + parents who either themselves knew how to get admissions results or who outsourced to consultants to obtain that knowledge, proleville is more likely to be exceptional than striver spawn regardless of the astroturfed resume its helicopter parents carefully cultivated on its behalf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35652642) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:59 PM Author: puce spot Unz's article on jewish overrepresentation in the Ivy league was garbage. Hillel all but admitted that they had no basis for the numbers they had claimed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35652811) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:31 PM Author: lascivious harsh range yes, also iirc he benchmarks it off of # of national merit finalists per state which is laughable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35653041) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 1:31 PM Author: lascivious harsh range Espenshade references (though doesn't model) squarestate AA. it is also unanimously reported by the admissions-consulting industry that purportedly hawks unfair advantages to chinks and jews. the Unz article is retarded for reasons you well know (squarestate AA that's literally built into NMS, ljfl) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35653037) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:53 PM Author: Galvanic idea he suggested cr that unz thing shd be stickied |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 2:01 AM Author: Wild Cocky Tank oh, i see your point now. my thoughts were circumscribed in the realm of college admissions, missing the bigger picture. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35659165) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:16 AM Author: violent chad mad cow disease There is a lot of truth in this OP.
It also helps elite minorities climb into positions more quickly and compounds incompetence.
AA over two or even three generations can rot the core of institutions. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:31 AM Author: Marvelous Federal Business Firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651538) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:34 AM Author: Turquoise location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651545) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:00 AM Author: Jet-lagged regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651661) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:59 AM Author: disturbing heaven foreskin Yep - and what type of jobs do we think these avg well-educated AA shitmajors obtain if they gain access to prestige credentials, whereas their peers had to be more talented on avg?
The types of jobs where prestigious institutions count for something, but are largely non skill based since otherwise they could easily be out-competed for skill-based job.
Roles that would fall under this set of criteria would be largely administrative, govt., HR, diversity offices, bullshit roles etc.
Scary but you're spot on - AA is feeding on itself in some sort of ideological-incompetence positive feedback loop that will get exponentially worse. So we're left today with institutions and companies full of under-qualified, entitled ideologues who believe they are the victim in this whole game so guess what policies will keep getting peddled by corrupt entitled ideologues filling up the HR, govt and admit / social positions across the U.S.
Also something interesting - there's some very good evidence recently that's been published in top Economics journals over the last 10-15 years finding a lot of empirical evidence for the mismatch theory which hurts legitimately talented STEM-interested minorities. (I've posted the links here several times before but if anyone's interested I'm happy to dig up again) Basically what what happens is that these minority students are obviously given admissions points above what their cognitive talent is worth were they not minority status. So naturally we're throwing them into a university experience where they have to compete while being at the bottom of the cognitive distribution in their class on average. For STEM majors this can have a huge effect because for many of these majors students are actually expected to be challenged and do a lot of hard work.
So many of these minority students that started out in STEM majors with genuine interest in e.g. engineering get overwhelmed and have to switch to easier majors. The papers control for other factors while comparing minority students that get generous AA points vs those that don't , and ones that do get those generous AA points have lower graduation rates, income, rates of attending graduate school etc. than their counterparts who just went to a lower ranked institution. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:27 AM Author: provocative athletic conference weed whacker You are right to an extent. The “holistic” approach to admissions, rather than something more quantitative, is basically sold as a way of keeping classes somewhat heterogenous (I.e. not 60% azn and like 0.5% black, etc.). Most people are OK with some form of that. But it also provides cover for advantaging rich kids from the coasts whose parents want to to game the system (yes they are disproportionately Jewish) by getting the kids a bunch of shitlibby do-gooder resume lines that some equally intelligent farm kid from Iowa is just not going to have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651515) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:29 AM Author: violent chad mad cow disease I swear man its a joke.
I went to an Elite HS and the class was split up between the kids of the elite, whose parents basically just paid for higher grades and the faculty/teachers when called out on it went to great lengths deny it, and then the rest of us who had to fight tooth and nail for the grades that were left.
It was the height of corruption and inequity. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:30 AM Author: Turquoise location how did they pay for the higher grades? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924351&forum_id=2#35651533) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:04 AM Author: violent chad mad cow disease Donation$ to the school which would lead to the kids of the elite being put into the easier section, Tutor$ (who would just do all the homework for them) who also happened to be teachers at the school.
If a kid of a rich family wash having trouble in a class, they would be switched out immediately into an easier class.
If a kid of a rich family got caught on honor code violations (like plagarism or cheating etc) they would get a slap on the wrist instead of being expelled
They should do a documentary about Prep school (and Boarding school) corruption one day |