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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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Coiffed twinkling uncleanness
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
Multi-colored international law enforcement agency tanning salon
  03/21/18
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haunting national bbw
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
Histrionic menage regret
  03/21/18
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glassy 180 hairy legs
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
avocado razzle private investor corner
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
Coiffed twinkling uncleanness
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
hairraiser territorial filthpig
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
apoplectic concupiscible resort
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
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buck-toothed galvanic affirmative action
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
stirring area
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
apoplectic concupiscible resort
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
stirring area
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
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vivacious chocolate messiness theater
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
Scarlet shrine
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
adventurous psychic
  03/22/18
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Maniacal Sweet Tailpipe
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
adventurous psychic
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
domesticated blood rage
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
adventurous psychic
  03/22/18
lol
Aggressive brunch
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
stirring area
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
Scarlet shrine
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
adventurous psychic
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
shaky misunderstood space
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
Zippy curious hall
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
trip insanely creepy tattoo
  03/21/18
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charcoal fragrant nibblets fortuitous meteor
  03/21/18
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Maniacal Sweet Tailpipe
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
Scarlet shrine
  03/21/18
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adventurous psychic
  03/22/18
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razzle-dazzle olive keepsake machete site
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
Floppy Indian Lodge
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
Multi-colored international law enforcement agency tanning salon
  03/21/18
Lmao
glassy 180 hairy legs
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
Henna boiling water laser beams
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
buck-toothed galvanic affirmative action
  03/21/18
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Histrionic menage regret
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
Scarlet shrine
  03/21/18
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Peach ticket booth halford
  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Coiffed twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored international law enforcement agency tanning salon

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: haunting national bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Histrionic menage regret

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: glassy 180 hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: avocado razzle private investor corner

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Coiffed twinkling uncleanness

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: hairraiser territorial filthpig

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: apoplectic concupiscible resort

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: buck-toothed galvanic affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: stirring area

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: apoplectic concupiscible resort

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: stirring area

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: vivacious chocolate messiness theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Scarlet shrine

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: adventurous psychic

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Maniacal Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: adventurous psychic

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: domesticated blood rage

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: adventurous psychic

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Aggressive brunch

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: stirring area

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Scarlet shrine

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: adventurous psychic

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: shaky misunderstood space

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Zippy curious hall

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: trip insanely creepy tattoo

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: charcoal fragrant nibblets fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Maniacal Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sable set mad-dog skullcap

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Mustard wonderful ape factory reset button

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Scarlet shrine

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: adventurous psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle olive keepsake machete site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Floppy Indian Lodge

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Multi-colored international law enforcement agency tanning salon

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: glassy 180 hairy legs

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Henna boiling water laser beams

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: buck-toothed galvanic affirmative action

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Histrionic menage regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: Scarlet shrine

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Peach ticket booth halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109)