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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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curious generalized bond
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
Talented black woman
  03/21/18
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self-absorbed parlour
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
flesh brunch
  03/21/18
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Primrose Impertinent School Feces
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
thriller autistic tanning salon
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
curious generalized bond
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
Trip locus
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
Arrogant Glittery Milk
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
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Clear mind-boggling temple
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
Arrogant Glittery Milk
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
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Infuriating spruce theater
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
cerise floppy people who are hurt
  03/22/18
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swollen alpha
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
cerise floppy people who are hurt
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
Rambunctious scarlet den
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
cerise floppy people who are hurt
  03/22/18
lol
Boyish point
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
cerise floppy people who are hurt
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
chest-beating fear-inspiring psychic potus
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
free-loading personal credit line
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
Soggy Affirmative Action Lettuce
  03/21/18
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histrionic ruddy preventive strike
  03/21/18
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swollen alpha
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
exciting native
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
exciting native
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
exciting native
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe
  03/21/18
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cerise floppy people who are hurt
  03/22/18
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Henna meetinghouse sex offender
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
Gaped bistre round eye
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
Talented black woman
  03/21/18
Lmao
Primrose Impertinent School Feces
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
Arousing yarmulke
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
Clear mind-boggling temple
  03/21/18
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flesh brunch
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe
  03/21/18
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Out-of-control drab travel guidebook
  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: curious generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Talented black woman

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: self-absorbed parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: flesh brunch

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Primrose Impertinent School Feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: thriller autistic tanning salon

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: curious generalized bond

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Trip locus

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Arrogant Glittery Milk

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Clear mind-boggling temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: Arrogant Glittery Milk

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Infuriating spruce theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: cerise floppy people who are hurt

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: swollen alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: cerise floppy people who are hurt

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Rambunctious scarlet den

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: cerise floppy people who are hurt

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Boyish point

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: poppy adventurous dysfunction filthpig

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: cerise floppy people who are hurt

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: chest-beating fear-inspiring psychic potus

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: free-loading personal credit line

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Soggy Affirmative Action Lettuce

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: histrionic ruddy preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: swollen alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: exciting native

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: exciting native

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: pale cruel-hearted idiot orchestra pit

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: exciting native

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: cerise floppy people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: Henna meetinghouse sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Gaped bistre round eye

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Talented black woman

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Primrose Impertinent School Feces

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Arousing yarmulke

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Clear mind-boggling temple

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: flesh brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: marvelous garnet public bath sweet tailpipe

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Out-of-control drab travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109)