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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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lavender effete french chef
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
pale vibrant pit
  03/21/18
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fluffy electric furnace
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
Trip Locale Psychic
  03/21/18
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cracking magenta theatre
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
French Nursing Home Incel
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
lavender effete french chef
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
haunting stage
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
Razzmatazz Range Boltzmann
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
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Disturbing school
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
Razzmatazz Range Boltzmann
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
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galvanic national security agency
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
Iridescent station ratface
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
Curious Cuckoldry
  03/22/18
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outnumbered adventurous dingle berry
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
Curious Cuckoldry
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
Motley sticky mad-dog skullcap
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
Curious Cuckoldry
  03/22/18
lol
exhilarant disrespectful institution main people
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
Iridescent station ratface
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
Curious Cuckoldry
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
Rusted comical jew
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
Startled dilemma
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
Abusive private investor office
  03/21/18
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bespoke chapel
  03/21/18
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outnumbered adventurous dingle berry
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
pungent dead cruise ship
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
pungent dead cruise ship
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
pungent dead cruise ship
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
Iridescent station ratface
  03/21/18
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Curious Cuckoldry
  03/22/18
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Purple chad
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
alcoholic glittery toaster piazza
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
pale vibrant pit
  03/21/18
Lmao
cracking magenta theatre
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
autistic disgusting boistinker
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
Disturbing school
  03/21/18
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Trip Locale Psychic
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
Iridescent station ratface
  03/21/18
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Thriller Chocolate Half-breed
  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: lavender effete french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: pale vibrant pit

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: fluffy electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Trip Locale Psychic

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: cracking magenta theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: French Nursing Home Incel

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: lavender effete french chef

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: haunting stage

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Range Boltzmann

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Disturbing school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Range Boltzmann

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: galvanic national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Iridescent station ratface

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Curious Cuckoldry

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: outnumbered adventurous dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Curious Cuckoldry

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Motley sticky mad-dog skullcap

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Curious Cuckoldry

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: exhilarant disrespectful institution main people

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored zippy selfie hospital

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Iridescent station ratface

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Curious Cuckoldry

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Rusted comical jew

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Startled dilemma

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Abusive private investor office

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: bespoke chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: outnumbered adventurous dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: pungent dead cruise ship

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: pungent dead cruise ship

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: floppy bearded trailer park haunted graveyard

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: pungent dead cruise ship

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Iridescent station ratface

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Curious Cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: Purple chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: alcoholic glittery toaster piazza

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: pale vibrant pit

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: cracking magenta theatre

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: autistic disgusting boistinker

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Disturbing school

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Trip Locale Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: Iridescent station ratface

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Thriller Chocolate Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109)