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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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jet mewling idiot
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
dun coldplay fan
  03/21/18
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pungent motley point
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
Maize contagious state roast beef
  03/21/18
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Adulterous house
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
internet-worthy bipolar party of the first part trust fund
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
jet mewling idiot
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
fiercely-loyal gas station mexican
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
greedy chocolate principal's office
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
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Unholy cocky patrolman
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
Shivering provocative persian water buffalo
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
greedy chocolate principal's office
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
Shivering provocative persian water buffalo
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
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Cobalt Travel Guidebook School
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
mustard blathering legend
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church
  03/22/18
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Aromatic maroon rehab knife
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
sinister useless brakes
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church
  03/22/18
lol
crimson unhinged pervert
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
Shivering provocative persian water buffalo
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
mustard blathering legend
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
passionate startled spot indirect expression
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
Concupiscible cream boistinker
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
geriatric locale crotch
  03/21/18
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impressive exhilarant death wish
  03/21/18
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Aromatic maroon rehab knife
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
talented mischievous feces
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
talented mischievous feces
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
Bistre confused menage
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
talented mischievous feces
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
mustard blathering legend
  03/21/18
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Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church
  03/22/18
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vivacious multi-billionaire plaza
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
hot haunting stage
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
dun coldplay fan
  03/21/18
Lmao
Adulterous house
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
henna school cafeteria
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
Unholy cocky patrolman
  03/21/18
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Maize contagious state roast beef
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
mustard blathering legend
  03/21/18
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chrome impertinent factory reset button
  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: jet mewling idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: dun coldplay fan

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: pungent motley point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Maize contagious state roast beef

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Adulterous house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: internet-worthy bipolar party of the first part trust fund

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: jet mewling idiot

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal gas station mexican

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: greedy chocolate principal's office

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Unholy cocky patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Shivering provocative persian water buffalo

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: greedy chocolate principal's office

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Shivering provocative persian water buffalo

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Cobalt Travel Guidebook School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: mustard blathering legend

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Aromatic maroon rehab knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: sinister useless brakes

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: crimson unhinged pervert

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Shivering provocative persian water buffalo

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: mustard blathering legend

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: passionate startled spot indirect expression

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Concupiscible cream boistinker

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: geriatric locale crotch

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: impressive exhilarant death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Aromatic maroon rehab knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: talented mischievous feces

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: talented mischievous feces

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Bistre confused menage

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: talented mischievous feces

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: mustard blathering legend

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Khaki Church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: vivacious multi-billionaire plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: hot haunting stage

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: dun coldplay fan

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Adulterous house

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: henna school cafeteria

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Unholy cocky patrolman

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Maize contagious state roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: mustard blathering legend

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: chrome impertinent factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109)