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Rabbi says meat from genetically cloned pig is in fact Kosher (link)

https://www.jta.org/2018/03/22/news-opinion/rabbi-says-meat-...
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As a Jew, I’m appalled that the orthodox union’s kosher divi...
Mustard cerebral background story
  03/22/18
Rabbi here. Two things are undoubtedly true: it is kosher b...
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Amethyst orchestra pit
  03/23/18
do you actually have smicha, or you just an xo rav?
Sepia Unhinged Nowag
  03/23/18
Just an xo rabbi.
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talented bossy yarmulke
  03/23/18
i take it you're ffb and otd?
Sepia Unhinged Nowag
  03/23/18
More or less. Been in and out a few times and semi religiou...
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  03/23/18
what about your parents/siblings? did you grow up MO or m...
Sepia Unhinged Nowag
  03/23/18
Don't want to get into detail but definitely went through so...
glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath
  03/23/18
are you ss/sk? if so, then i think that makes you MO. less, ...
Sepia Unhinged Nowag
  03/23/18
Sorry, Yahweh
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  03/23/18
isnt this old news? most ortho rabbis agree that it's techni...
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  03/23/18
Do you agree with the rulings? Would you eat pork from this...
talented bossy yarmulke
  03/23/18
i dont have any reason to disagree with the rulings on techn...
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  03/23/18
So what happens if you breed that cloned pig? Is the next-ge...
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Cannot imagine the cloned pig part is true. The guy they in...
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  03/23/18
seems like it should be discouraged on the same grounds as e...
erotic corn cake incel
  03/23/18
im not thrilled this analogy bc the kitniyot is a long-estab...
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  03/23/18
i looked at thread title quickly and thought it said "k...
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: odious hyperactive box office sex offender

https://www.jta.org/2018/03/22/news-opinion/rabbi-says-meat-genetically-cloned-pig-eaten-jews-including-milk

(JTA) — A prominent Orthodox rabbi in Israel said that meat from a genetically cloned pig would be kosher for consumption by Jews, including when eaten with dairy products.

Rabbi Yuval Cherlow told Ynet in an interview published Wednesday that cloned meat is not subject to the rules that apply to the consumption of regular meat.

Cherlow is quoted as saying that “cloned meat produced from a pig shall not be defined as prohibited for consumption – including with milk.”

In the interview, Cherlow of the Tzohar Rabbinical Organization appears to be talking about meat that is grown artificially in a laboratory from the cells of a pig rather than meat produced from a live pig whose genetic material comes from a cell from which the pig was cloned. However, the article does not quote him as making the distinction.

In the interview ahead of a Bar-Ilan University symposium titled “Science and Halacha” featuring a talk by Cherlow, he advocated rabbinic approval of cloned meat “so that people would not starve, to prevent pollution, and to avoid the suffering of animals.”

When the “cell of a pig is used and its genetic material is utilized in the production of food, the cell in fact loses its original identity and therefore cannot be defined as forbidden for consumption,” Cherlow said. “It wouldn’t even be meat, so you can consume it with dairy.”

In 2013, Rabbi Menachem Genack, CEO of the Orthodox Union’s kosher division, said that meat from a lab-grown hamburger could be consumed with dairy products, although halacha, religious Jewish law, forbids it in meat produced from a live animal.

But Genack, who was commenting on the production of an artificial hamburger produced by researchers from Maastricht University in the Netherlands, did not mention pork, whose consumption is one of Judaism’s strongest prohibitions.

“Without prophesizing, clearly there will be a major disagreement,” Cherlow said over the consumption of what he called cloned meat. And while “there is merit” in prohibiting this meat, too, “halachic thought should examine the needs of all humanity, not only one’s own case,” he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35661334)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: slate cuck step-uncle's house

scientists have been working on kosher hams for decades. it's going to happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35661343)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Pale Contagious Partner Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35661399)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: mind-boggling rough-skinned antidepressant drug



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: Mustard cerebral background story

As a Jew, I’m appalled that the orthodox union’s kosher division has a “ceo”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35661395)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath

Rabbi here. Two things are undoubtedly true: it is kosher by the letter of the law, and as a practical matter, Orthodox Jews will not eat it. As an example, a hundred years ago, half of orthodox rabbis came up with convoluted machinations to forbid electricity on Shabbat, and half of them still allowed it. Today, an orthodox Jew would no sooner use electricity on Shabbat than build a fire or harvest a field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35661499)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Amethyst orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35669639)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

do you actually have smicha, or you just an xo rav?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672330)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath

Just an xo rabbi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672561)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: talented bossy yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672581)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

i take it you're ffb and otd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672632)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath

More or less. Been in and out a few times and semi religious now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672642)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

what about your parents/siblings?

did you grow up MO or more shtark?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672654)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath

Don't want to get into detail but definitely went through some far right phases. Never really MO - it was always either righter or lefter. It occurs to me that maybe now I'd qualify as MO, to a degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672681)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

are you ss/sk? if so, then i think that makes you MO. less, and you're traditional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672745)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: buck-toothed flirting genital piercing faggotry

Sorry, Yahweh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35669593)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

isnt this old news? most ortho rabbis agree that it's technically kosher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672336)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: talented bossy yarmulke

Do you agree with the rulings? Would you eat pork from this method?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672585)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

i dont have any reason to disagree with the rulings on technical grounds. these scholars know far more than i do.

would i eat cloned kosher pork? i'm more afraid of eating cloned animals than pigs for health reasons, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672640)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: irate federal home international law enforcement agency

So what happens if you breed that cloned pig? Is the next-generation pig forbidden or does it inherit the kosherness?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672614)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: glittery turquoise sound barrier public bath

Cannot imagine the cloned pig part is true. The guy they interviewed may not have drawn a distinction but a live cloned pig would be treif AF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672631)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: erotic corn cake incel

seems like it should be discouraged on the same grounds as eating kitniyot is discouraged/prohibited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672679)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Sepia Unhinged Nowag

im not thrilled this analogy bc the kitniyot is a long-established custom for some but not all jews, in the same way different jews have different customs about how long to wait after meat (1 vs 3 vs 6 hours).

rabbis can make halachic rulings, but they cant invent customs overnight. it may become a custom eventually if the rabbis forcememe people into not eating it, but they cant just declare it a custom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672807)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: stimulating shimmering abode coldplay fan

i looked at thread title quickly and thought it said "kushner", not "kosher"

lulz at me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925623&forum_id=2#35672762)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: erotic corn cake incel

this poast sucks

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: stimulating shimmering abode coldplay fan

most of my poasts do

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