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Let's discuss the role of eunuchs in historical empires

In Asia, there is a very long tradition of Emperors using eu...
Dashing meetinghouse
  03/23/18
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unholy fanboi lettuce
  03/23/18
don't we post about asians enough as it is?
glittery heaven
  03/23/18
Well, in the Ottoman Empire, there were two classes of eunuc...
Dashing meetinghouse
  03/23/18
HOWEVER, it was not unusual for the Sultan to be on good per...
Dashing meetinghouse
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racy sienna striped hyena spot
  03/23/18
here is the Chief Black Eunuch guarding the harem doors in 1...
Dashing meetinghouse
  03/23/18
guarantee the sultan's wife has been tryna fluff dat BBC
Razzle crimson clown forum
  03/23/18
180 do you have a source for ottomman harem scholarship?
disrespectful dilemma foreskin
  03/23/18
180
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unholy fanboi lettuce
  03/23/18
how is this not on topic? Azns = eunuchs
glittery heaven
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cracking insecure legal warrant stage
  03/23/18
Trusted advisors, the machinery of the state is far worse wi...
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The Olmecs produced figurines with spread legs and no genita...
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Justinian was jealous of his star general Belisarius so he l...
Apoplectic Wild Step-uncle's House Weed Whacker
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fuck, I forgot about Narses
Dashing meetinghouse
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Basil the Bulger Slayer had to overthrow his eunuch uncle Ba...
Apoplectic Wild Step-uncle's House Weed Whacker
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I love finding another human being who knows about Basil the...
Dashing meetinghouse
  03/23/18
Fuck 51 years
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Dashing meetinghouse
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Pls respond to my question re harem scholarship above
disrespectful dilemma foreskin
  03/23/18
Charles, got anything?
Dashing meetinghouse
  03/23/18
180. Keep going.
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

In Asia, there is a very long tradition of Emperors using eunuchs as advisors. The thought is, since a eunuch cannot found a new dynasty, a eunuch is less likely to rebel against you.

Especially in China and in the Ottoman Empire, there were times when the emperor's eunuch advisors basically ran the show. Poor families would beg the government to castrate their sons, so that their sons could live in palatial splendor as advisors to the ruler.

In the Ottoman Empire, an official called the "Chief Black Eunuch" was given the honor of guarding the harem. It was extremely important to keep men other than the Sultan out of the harem, it was the only way to be 100% sure that all the children born to harem women were children of the Sultan and therefore potential heirs.

Oddly enough, in the 1700's, there WAS a eunuch in Iran who overthrew the government and founded his own dynasty: he adopted a cousin or nephew as his heir.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668747)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: unholy fanboi lettuce



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: glittery heaven

don't we post about asians enough as it is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668752)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

Well, in the Ottoman Empire, there were two classes of eunuchs, and neither were Asian.

"White Eunuchs", recruited from the Balkans, worked in the government and advised the Sultan

"Black Eunuchs", recruited from sub-Saharan Africa, guarded the harem and ensured that harem women slept only with the Sultan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668761)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

HOWEVER, it was not unusual for the Sultan to be on good personal terms with the Chief Black Eunuch and use him as a trusted advisor as well. After all, the Sultan was in the harem a lot, and odds are the Chief Black Eunuch knew the Sultan's mother well. As the Ottoman Empire went on, the mother of the emperor tended to be a more powerful figure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668769)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: racy sienna striped hyena spot



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

here is the Chief Black Eunuch guarding the harem doors in 1912

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Ottoman_eunuch%2C_1912.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668777)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Razzle crimson clown forum

guarantee the sultan's wife has been tryna fluff dat BBC

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: disrespectful dilemma foreskin

180 do you have a source for ottomman harem scholarship?

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Burgundy sick institution genital piercing

180

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: unholy fanboi lettuce



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: glittery heaven

how is this not on topic? Azns = eunuchs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668781)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: cracking insecure legal warrant stage



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: disrespectful dilemma foreskin

Trusted advisors, the machinery of the state is far worse without them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668760)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: magenta alpha voyeur

The Olmecs produced figurines with spread legs and no genitalia. These are believed to represent eunuchs, although it is unknown what role(s) they may have played in Olmec society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668821)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: dark feces gas station

I really like it here

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Apoplectic Wild Step-uncle's House Weed Whacker

Justinian was jealous of his star general Belisarius so he let his trusted eunuch Narses finish the re-conquest of Rome for the empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668844)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

fuck, I forgot about Narses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668849)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Apoplectic Wild Step-uncle's House Weed Whacker

Basil the Bulger Slayer had to overthrow his eunuch uncle Bardes before he could rule in his own right and become more than a puppet.

This is right around when the Byzantines hit their peak in the Middle Ages and were likely the strongest state in the world (I don’t know anything about China history) at this time. Byzantines are fielding multiple well trained 25-30K armies while Billy the Conk (who had maybe 10K men) hasn’t even hit England yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668865)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

I love finding another human being who knows about Basil the Bulgar Slayer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668932)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Contagious roast beef pistol

Fuck 51 years

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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: disrespectful dilemma foreskin

Pls respond to my question re harem scholarship above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35669237)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Dashing meetinghouse

Charles, got anything?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35670616)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:44 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring 180 candlestick maker field

180. Keep going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35676043)