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why is India such a shithole?
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 6:54 PM Author: cobalt ticket booth french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35673497) |
Date: March 23rd, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Filled with shitty people with a shitty culture. Not complicated.
Imagine how bad it was before the Brits gave them technology, transportation and stopped them from doing barbaric shit like burning widows with their dead husbands. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 7:52 PM Author: Out-of-control boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35673983) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:06 PM Author: Big parlor regret Low average IQ notice they have millions of engineers but use American technology. Only thing they’re good for is low wage techno coolies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674075) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:07 PM Author: wonderful brunch the British fucked it up with hundreds of years of exploitative colonialism
then, after Independence, the Congress Party fucked it up further with decades of bureaucratic socialism |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:10 PM Author: Ruddy Locus Brethren lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674102) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:11 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor LJL
That's absurd.
It was 10000000x worse before the brits got there.
If you disagree you have been brainwaashed with shitlib propaganda and don't know anything aobut pre-colonial Indian history.
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Big parlor regret He’s a probable turdskin on my spreadsheet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674149) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Ruddy Locus Brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674153) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674184) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:14 PM Author: wonderful brunch https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-11/legacy-of-british-rule-is-still-holding-india-back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674178) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Shitlib media lies -- SHOCKING.
ALso -- you moved the goalposts.
My point was that India was better off after Colonialization than before. Not that long term it would have been better to have never had it.
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm the shittiest parts of india are the parts that the british only nominally controled, like rajasthan (which was ruled by the eponymous intermediary rajas during the british rule).
goa, the most colonialized place in india, is also the most developed. the three most christianized regions in the country score the highest in development measures: goa, kerala, and the northeastern region. other than being highly christianized (and therefore westernized) these three states have little in common. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:22 PM Author: flushed church This is actually not true. The most industrialized states are Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, and Punjab (or Maharashtra). Kerela has been run by the communists for years now. So, for those of you railing about socialism or whatever, I don't think Kerela is what you want to hold up as an example. Kerala is developed not because of the Christians but because of foreign remittances of its expats from the Arab Gulf countries. The Northeast is also a mess though that isn't as much a fault of Northeasterners as it is of Bangladeshi immigrants. Goa has good tourist infrastructure so people might think it is developed. But in terms of other industries there isn't much there. Also Goa wasn't ruled by the Brits but by the Portuguese. An important point for the anglo-saxon supremacists among us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674229) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:26 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm see this map. kerala, goa, nagaland, and manipur, basically the 4 most christian states, have the highest HDI (darkest green):
industrialization isn't the same as non-shithole status. look at russia. industrialized, but a shithole. either way, the level of industrialization in even the most "industrialized" indian states is lulzy.
as far as goa, it was colonized for the longest period by westerners and was the most westernized, and is today one of the least shitty parts of india.
as far as keralan "communists," ljl |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:29 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor WRONG. India is much less industrialized and 10x more of a shithole than Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674270) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:30 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm true, but russia being "industrialized" doesn't make it not a shithole
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor But there's still a strong correlation between the Shithole/not-shithole scale and the industrialization scale.
Pointing out that an industrialized country can still fall on the shit-hole side means nothing. It's a logical fallacy. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:33 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm industrialization in the context of shithole countries usually means mordor-like pollution, such as in norilsk or the bhopal disaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674296) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:37 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor You're falling for the primitive culture version of the naturalistic fallacy. You're assuming that life in small agrarian communities is better than industrial life. This is a very common idea, but demonstrably false. Turns out a primitive agrarian lifestyle is actualy total hell compared to the worst industrial existance. This is why people CHOOSE to move and work in factories when the alternative is the fields or the paddies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674318) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:58 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm honestly have no idea wtf you're carrying on about. i can 100% tell you that the "industrialized" parts of india were no more pleasant than the non-"industrialized" parts when i traveled around the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674504) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:06 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor I'm not talking aobut wht's more pleasent to drive through. I'm talking about where peole would rather live. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674575) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:07 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm i didn't drive through anywhere in the country. i got around like the indians. but anyway this thread is about india being a shithole. the "industrialized" parts of the country were just as unpleasant to be existing in as the non industrialized parts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674581) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:09 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor CR. not sure why we're arguing. I think I thought you were Krampusnacht for most of that exchange. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:27 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm (edited, double poast) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674260) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:34 PM Author: flushed church You understand this is the equivalent of saying CA, NY, and oh I don't know MA being considered superior to MS, AL, and TX, right? A whole bunch of shitlibbery in that index - something I saw you or someone else rail against not too far upthread. Like Manipur or Meghalaya has the tribal custom of women has head of household. Shitlibs love that shit.
No multinational is moving to Kerela or the northeast. Or Goa for that matter. That should tell you something. Yeah these are good touristy places I guess. Though Rajasthan can't be beat when it comes to touristy things to see. But these are not some awesome bastions that you think they are. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:36 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm this thread is about which places are shitholds. so union carbide opened a gas plant in bhopal, did that make it less of a shithold? no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674315) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:38 PM Author: flushed church Madhya Pradesh is a shithole yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674327) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:39 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm but but a multinational located there! industrialization! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674329) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:17 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor I agree with you on Congress party fuckin it up with socialism / controlled economy.
BJP forever!!!!!!!! FUCK MUSLIMS!!!! |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674183) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:33 PM Author: Mind-boggling Beta Quadroon Space you are fucking nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674290) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:08 PM Author: internet-worthy up-to-no-good mediation I want to visit India some day just to see how big of a literal shit-hole it is
I think it would be great to see people openly shitting in the streets |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:10 PM Author: Ruddy Locus Brethren cheaper to visit san francisco (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674106) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:11 PM Author: Big parlor regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674117) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:19 PM Author: Heady clear mother state trip to sf would probably cost more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674212) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:14 PM Author: cobalt ticket booth french chef Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675328) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm Because it's full of turds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674152) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:12 PM Author: filthy appetizing principal's office It was the British! They ruin everything! Brits love to keep intelligent, enterprising ethnicities down with their colonialism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674160) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:15 PM Author: wonderful brunch Living standards were measurably better before British rule, British-induced famines killed millions of Indians, and the British Raj left behind a legacy of bureaucracy that has choked Indian economic growth even after they quit India (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674189) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:17 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm odd case how british bureaucracy doesn't turn england into a literal shithold but did turn india into one. odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674205) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:19 PM Author: filthy appetizing principal's office Once they got their dirty Anglo mitts off of Ireland it became a 180 and perfect country with an Indian prime minister. Odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674215) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:22 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor British rule brought some mass famines, but it put a near end to the regular small famines that wiped out significantly more people before colonialization.
You keep cherrypickign the negatives of colonial rule while ignoring the MASSIVELY more significant improvements.
Also, cololionazion brought an end to war on the subcontinent. Before them it was constant warfare. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:23 PM Author: wonderful brunch Europe was also in a state of constant warfare around that time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674237) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Why did you just state a random fact that had nothing to do with our discussion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674265) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:57 PM Author: Copper doobsian selfie circlehead Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674495) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Black Twinkling Uncleanness Hall indians literally shit on the streets, many of which are riddled with holes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674190) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:23 PM Author: Heady clear mother state our it guy from chennai tells me some ridiculous stories about india...made me never want to visit.
asked another indian bro what he thought of people from that region and he said they are the most backwards/fundamentalist people in india and everyone else considers them pure shit lmao |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:40 PM Author: irradiated resort Never been to India. What exactly makes it a shithole? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674342) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:43 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm *700 million people with no access to any toilets (even public latrines). some people shit in the streets *they throw corpses in their holiest river, which also has 10,000x the safe limit of fecal coliform bacteria *cows shitting in the streets, nobody cleans it up *cows eating garbage in the streets *people throw their trash in the streets, nobody cleans it up. the garbage burns or is eaten by cows *sewers (insofar as they exist) are open channels under the sidewalk. when it rains, shitwater floods the streets *wretched cripples lying in the streets like a scene out of Dante's Inferno *railcars have "toilets" that let shit out directly on the tracks below. so you have to dodge turds whenever you cross railroad tracks even in the middle of a city like delhi. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: cobalt ticket booth french chef What the fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675345) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: free-loading high-end house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35689360) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Extreme poverty. People are gross. Shitty culture. No social trust or social cohesion. Women treated horribly. Lots of rape. Corrupt. The top of society literally looks at everyone below them as subhumans and treats them accordignly.
And people just shit on the sidewalks or wherever they want all the time.
I literally saw a dead baby on the sidewalk in Delhi. This was probably a mile or less from the embassys in New Helhi.
Food is 18000000000000000000 though.
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:52 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm Here is a typical street scene from my time there:
http://johnschupbach.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ps2img_4872.jpg |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:54 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Except there should be 3-4 people pissing and 1-2 people shitting.
And he's not kidding. That's exactly the scene you see anwhere you go in India, with only a few exceptions. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:55 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm absolutely not kidding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674470) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:58 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor I've been to poor parts of Africa that are MUCH poorer than India, and they were less disgusting in every way.
I do not understand why Indians are so particularly disgusting. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:59 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm same. lagos was much less gross than delhi and it wasn't even close. i even went to the parts of lagos that westerners never ever ever ever get to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674517) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:05 PM Author: Pontificating Cerebral Doctorate Fortuitous Meteor Ther'es something in the Indian psyche that just makes the "not give a fuck."
It's the best way I can desribe it. It's pervasive. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 8:59 PM Author: abusive box office immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674515) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:01 PM Author: Coiffed amethyst therapy shrine what makes it particularly inexcusable is that the fucking mohenjo-daro civilization had plumbing systems 5,000 years ago. how do you lose 5,000-year-old knowledge and revert to shitting out in the open? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674531) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:04 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm people flat out REFUSE to use the toilets even when they're provided for free
"Many of the millions constructed in rural India lie unused, while people continue to do their business in the fields. Reports say the new facilities are sometimes used instead to store rice or keep goats"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/06/8-million-new-toilets-later-india-isnt-much-cleaner/73436616/ |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 1:56 AM Author: free-loading high-end house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35689371) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:05 PM Author: aromatic stain library zero maintenance of the commons
the rich don't see the not rich as human
umc homes are nice inside have lots of cheap servants
they just care about their private sphere and make that nice and just ignore the rest |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:07 PM Author: abusive box office immigrant White americans love to import these rich indians because "they are educated and dont commit crime!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674584) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:11 PM Author: aromatic stain library it stands in sharp contrast to Japan which really emphasizes everyone paying a lot of attention to the maintenance of the commons. things are spick and span with no enforcement.
what is the fundamental underlying difference? egalitarianism? homogeneity? appreciation of mother nature? |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:29 PM Author: Coiffed amethyst therapy shrine from what i've read, it kind of USED to be like that in japan - ie, if you weren't a member of an important family/clan, you were just a peasant who could be killed or enslaved by the local lords. japan didn't really develop a sense of national identity until the Tokugawa shogunate. my understanding is that this development weakened japan's caste system so that complete caste immobility gradually ended.
in turn, that meant that caste markers centered around behavior and class more than pure descent. so if you were a street-shitting peasant, you were "burakumin," but if you behaved better, you weren't seen that way. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Bateful old irish cottage business firm i work in a STEM field. one of the interns we had this summer was a CS phd student from india. he was telling us how his dream from when he was a boy was to take the test to become a civil servant so he could become a millionaire through bribes and payoffs. said a mid-level civil servant in india could easily end up with a $5 million net worth by age 40. but then he somehow missed the test date or something so he decided to do a phd instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674630) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:38 PM Author: abusive box office immigrant $5 million usd? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675508) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 1:47 AM Author: claret rough-skinned field 50 lakh crore rupees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35689343) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: free-loading high-end house 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35689392) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:44 PM Author: fuchsia sanctuary gay wizard What makes India a shithole, is the Indian people's shitholes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674792) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:48 PM Author: hyperventilating topaz alpha too many people means wages remain too low. just an imbalance. they should one child policy that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35674814) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:39 PM Author: galvanic narrow-minded people who are hurt No one has any sense of civic duty, so they just throw trash on the street. Over half defecate without a bathroom (over half a billion). Most don't get enough protein so don't have the muscle mass, testosterone and aggressiveness to make things happen. The men look very weak and docile. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: galvanic narrow-minded people who are hurt You need a certain level of aggression to create GDP growth and increase the velocity of commerce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675092) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:35 PM Author: zippy scarlet puppy lay 1,000 years of getting raped by foreigners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675486) |
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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:33 AM Author: ivory deer antler How much of it is due to poor sanitation? And how much of that in turn is due to the Hindu multitheism? Don't they have some idea that there are gods everywhere, so that it would be wrong to sterilize things and kill the bacteria gods? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35675998) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Shimmering domesticated senate jap tommy bump
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3039427&mc=24&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 1:58 AM Author: Shimmering domesticated senate jap would love to see india actually unify and get their shit together - pun intended (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927197&forum_id=2#35689383) |