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Antinatalist bros: David Benatar faced off against Jordan Peterson!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsyZcKUP_-k
Bateful corner newt
  03/24/18
Call me when it's Pat Benatar
doobsian fluffy tank
  03/24/18
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galvanic bright state
  03/27/18
Old news
avocado knife
  03/24/18
who do you think won? Benatar is frustrating to listen to. N...
Bateful corner newt
  03/24/18
consent, action/inaction is fraud
mind-boggling mischievous site
  03/24/18
I don't like Benatar or his asymmetry argument. The problem ...
avocado knife
  03/24/18
Interesting Will need to read
Bateful corner newt
  03/24/18
someobody should translate on the tragic. there are obscure ...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
It is coming: http://dailynous.com/2016/11/22/neglected-...
avocado knife
  03/24/18
rust cole ended up being an optimist. people forget that. th...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
Your point? Zapffe didn't write True Detective...have you ev...
avocado knife
  03/24/18
oh, so ur an acolyte of the pessimist philosophy? do you rea...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
that's fine by me, I basically get by on an aesthetic worldv...
avocado knife
  03/24/18
Consequentialists done here
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
Listening to people try to justify their myopic arithmetic a...
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
Holy fuck listen to this neurotic bitchy antinatalist throw ...
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
this guy sounds like an idiot. i like the aesthetic value of...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
I didn't know Schopenhauer was an antinatalist
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
oh fuck off. im not about to engage in a retarded subthread ...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
Schopenhauer was shit btw
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
not he was not. he was 180. some of the most beautiful writi...
appetizing meetinghouse
  03/24/18
Lol AN dude: JP are you saying you'd cut your kids leg of at...
Crawly crystalline point patrolman
  03/24/18
these guys were talking straight past each other peterson...
Pontificating Base Background Story
  03/27/18


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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Bateful corner newt

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsyZcKUP_-k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678187)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: doobsian fluffy tank

Call me when it's Pat Benatar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678188)



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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: galvanic bright state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35697282)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: avocado knife

Old news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678194)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Bateful corner newt

who do you think won? Benatar is frustrating to listen to. Needs to focus more on consent and less on the assymetry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678201)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: mind-boggling mischievous site

consent, action/inaction is fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678217)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: avocado knife

I don't like Benatar or his asymmetry argument. The problem is that optimists will always say that pleasure makes up for pain and pessimists will disagree. That's it, no getting around that. I like Zapffe, even though his 'On the Tragic' was never translated from Norwegian, the Last Messiah is the best philosophical essay I've read. And it is much more effective than Benatar, because he outlines all the ways that humans repress consciousness and how they bubble up into a powder keg of insanity. Zapffe was also much more chill, he basically said "life sucks, don't have kids' and then lived out the rest of his days cheerfully as a mountaineer, author, lawyer etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678227)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Bateful corner newt

Interesting

Will need to read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678249)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

someobody should translate on the tragic. there are obscure books that have been translate into 50 languages. how come this book has never been translated? what if its last messiah x100? or maybe its terrible, so nobody bothered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678505)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: avocado knife

It is coming:

http://dailynous.com/2016/11/22/neglected-philosophical-pessimist-times-guest-post-sean-schifano/

Been waiting a while for this now. I think it was Zapffe's doctoral dissertation and basically an extended version of the Last Messiah.

Here's an article with some good information: https://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_View_from_Mount_Zapffe

Zapffe had a mountain named after him and his house is a museum you can visit today.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678527)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

rust cole ended up being an optimist. people forget that. the show ended on the note that the light is winning.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678663)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: avocado knife

Your point? Zapffe didn't write True Detective...have you ever heard of a "network note"? Pizzolatapizza is a pessimist himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678681)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

oh, so ur an acolyte of the pessimist philosophy? do you realize its all done for its aesthetic appeal? its no different than drawing dragons and making movies about dark subjects. its an outlet. its best seen as poetry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678702)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: avocado knife

that's fine by me, I basically get by on an aesthetic worldview anyway. If it is ugly and uninteresting, it is useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678731)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

Consequentialists done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678222)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

Listening to people try to justify their myopic arithmetic arguments for the imdefensiblity of life is exceedingly depressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678245)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

Holy fuck listen to this neurotic bitchy antinatalist throw a hissy fit at JP LOL 180

https://youtu.be/vsyZcKUP_-k?t=3233

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678602)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

this guy sounds like an idiot. i like the aesthetic value of Schopenhauers philosophy. when you just try to turn it into logical arguments you are an idiot in my book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678692)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

I didn't know Schopenhauer was an antinatalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678707)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

oh fuck off. im not about to engage in a retarded subthread with an idiot like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678712)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

Schopenhauer was shit btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678722)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: appetizing meetinghouse

not he was not. he was 180. some of the most beautiful writing i have ever read. reading Schopenhauer was like watching pulp fiction or the matrix for the first time. at least for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678726)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Crawly crystalline point patrolman

Lol AN dude: JP are you saying you'd cut your kids leg of at birth??? U sick freak!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35678623)



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Date: March 27th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: Pontificating Base Background Story

these guys were talking straight past each other

peterson basically saying that antinatalism is an unprincipled compromise

benatar unable to address

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927809&forum_id=2#35697269)