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Hilarious thing about DFW's intellectualizing his mood was his terrible diet

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weather
  04/05/18
what was his diet like? lots of fast food?
prince
  04/05/18
Yeah and he loved candy and shit. Hilarious to think of this...
weather
  04/05/18
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The Mueller Passover Announcement
  04/05/18
he was definitely wrong about a heck of a lot. i just enjoy ...
prince
  04/05/18
I don't find his sense of sound particularly good. To use an...
weather
  04/05/18
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twins
  04/05/18
i can agree with that. i was wrong to compare him to moby di...
prince
  04/05/18
He's more Salieri than Mozart
weather
  04/05/18
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ACP's skinny penis
  04/05/18
There's no need to get all metaphysical. As I recall, he had...
twins
  04/05/18
180 as fuck
uspo (retired)
  04/05/18
i went off paxil abruptly myself, and it was killself territ...
prince
  04/05/18
whyd you go off
'""'''""'
  04/05/18
it messes with your penis. decided enough of that. otherwise...
prince
  04/05/18
Lol, why does every beneficial drug cause erectile dysfuncti...
British Upgrade
  10/17/18
i always thought he was one of the victims of yet-to-be reco...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
Don't think so.
twins
  04/05/18
aren't u a psychiatrist? please state ur vested interest in ...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
I treat behavioral issues in the dogs of the rich using beha...
twins
  04/05/18
so you actually follow the ideal and treat with words before...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
Not a chance in hell. It's either drugs or "cbt" l...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
yeah, this is the case 99% of the time "CBT" jfc ...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
Behavioral activation therapy seems to work about as well an...
twins
  04/05/18
But he didn't necessarily "get depressed" in the s...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
Yeah, maybe. It is also possible he developed an undetected ...
twins
  04/05/18
Are you seriously suggesting antidepressants don't have disc...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
No.
twins
  04/05/18
Jordan Peterson | The Last Psychiatrist | twins
soulful thuglyfe poet
  04/05/18
Don’t insult twins like that.
ACP's skinny penis
  04/05/18
TLP is 180 in spite of his dodgy political leanings JP not ...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
say that to my fucking face
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
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asian speculum
  04/05/18
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ACP's skinny penis
  04/05/18
Cr, DFW had severe treatment resistant depression and the Na...
devops199
  04/05/18
Cr. Also, there is a very good chance what he took to be a h...
twins
  04/05/18
Very possible. Either way his psych should have said stay on...
devops199
  04/05/18
Did his doctor really endorse going off? That would be surpr...
twins
  04/05/18
Not sure. Probably didn't endorse going off, but possibly di...
devops199
  04/05/18
Such trash. What all these people suffer from is a lack of p...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
Even granting all that, you have not presented an argument a...
twins
  04/05/18
I was reacting precisely to.the use of antidepressants under...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
Ah.
twins
  04/05/18
Which, listen man, I get. But I don't think the system does ...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
Maybe. How do you explain twin studies and gwas hits? E.g., ...
twins
  04/05/18
Even granting a nontrivial proportion of depression risk can...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
I'm not quite sure what you mean. If people want to be happi...
twins
  04/05/18
My parameters are pretty clear. Your run of the mill Joe fag...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
I don't think your last sentence is a fair characterization....
twins
  04/05/18
Not fair? You sit across from someone in emotional pain and ...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
I've never given someone pills because they said they wanted...
twins
  04/05/18
You're fucking insane. If 3% of people are depressed and 20%...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/06/18
It's true, when you use made up numbers and vague accusation...
twins
  04/06/18
Lol a psychiatrist that instantly cites to generic studies t...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/06/18
Aye yai yai.
twins
  04/06/18
Youre hurting more people than you help. Do you get that mr ...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/06/18
You say primum non nocere, I say look out for numero uno. An...
twins
  04/06/18
I don't care what you are, you have a detestable attitude to...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/06/18
How so?
twins
  04/06/18
This is a fairly unlettered view, but for sake of argument D...
devops199
  04/05/18
Conjunctions are conjunctive. At least among the unlettered ...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
It doesn't seem that you've ever engaged with the scientific...
devops199
  04/05/18
Lol thanks morty, based on your inability to detect or under...
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
Not sure how this relates at all to me saying that DFW and o...
devops199
  04/05/18
No one cares faggot move along
20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen
  04/05/18
he was a fucking junkie. he had the personality of a maudlin...
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twins
  04/05/18
yes, but he produced some very entertaining stuff from time ...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
dostoevsky was a compulsive gambler
i'm sorry, i don't date 3D
  04/05/18
authors are generally ("often" is also an acceptab...
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
i'm not disagreeing but given these facts "DFW was a ju...
i'm sorry, i don't date 3D
  04/05/18
but Dostoevsky was actually insightful. David Foster Wallac...
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  04/05/18
Thanks for confirming with your last sentence because this e...
hair loss at 19
  04/05/18
he was dogshit. that his writing is aesthetically hideous i...
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I'd locate the problem with DFW chiefly in an excess of verb...
twins
  04/05/18
this is dumb. i am a huge fan of your posting but this is sp...
''''''''''''"''''
  04/06/18
We can agree to disagree.
twins
  04/06/18
Also, thanks! re the poasting. I may be overly harsh on DFW ...
twins
  04/06/18
idk, maybe it wasn't intentional(ok almost certainly wasn't)...
GARFIELD
  10/17/18
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boner police?
  04/05/18
high quality posts ITT
GARFIELD
  04/05/18
really smart and creative and handsome people enjoy mcdonald...
boner police?
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redwood dood
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weather
  02/11/19
He blamed GC for his shit diet in "Mister Squishy"...
InTheZone
  04/06/18
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weather
  10/17/18
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weather
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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: weather



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773881)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: prince (life-affirming warrior)

what was his diet like? lots of fast food?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773885)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: weather

Yeah and he loved candy and shit. Hilarious to think of this overeducated charlatan stuffing his face full of garbage making his brain go chemically haywire and writing as if it's all in the mind. Fucking moron didn't read any Merleau-Ponty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773913)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: The Mueller Passover Announcement



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773919)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: prince (life-affirming warrior)

he was definitely wrong about a heck of a lot. i just enjoy his actual writing, i dont think of him as a prophet or a wise man. his actual writing is some of the best shit ever though. its like reading moby dick -- a delight.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773963)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: weather

I don't find his sense of sound particularly good. To use an analogy from another thread, he had a very neckbeardy appoach to language the way guitar virtuosos and their fans do. He was a magpie who couldn't resist piling more icing on his confections

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774022)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:16 PM
Author: twins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774034)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: prince (life-affirming warrior)

i can agree with that. i was wrong to compare him to moby dick. hes more of a virtuoso, but not a master.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774067)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: weather

He's more Salieri than Mozart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774184)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: ACP's skinny penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774353)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: twins

There's no need to get all metaphysical. As I recall, he had found a drug regimen (Nardil etc.) that worked for him for twenty years. He decided, "yaknow, I don't like taking this stuff," so he went off it, slipped back into depression, and hanged himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773945)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: uspo (retired) (u$po)

180 as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773952)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: prince (life-affirming warrior)

i went off paxil abruptly myself, and it was killself territory for a couple of years as my brain learned how to rewire itself back to normal now that it wasnt swimming in artificially created serotonin. those pills are dangerous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35773973)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: '""'''""'


whyd you go off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774259)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: prince (life-affirming warrior)

it messes with your penis. decided enough of that. otherwise probably would still be on it, for better or worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774428)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: British Upgrade

Lol, why does every beneficial drug cause erectile dysfunction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#37046276)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:14 PM
Author: GARFIELD

i always thought he was one of the victims of yet-to-be recorded MDD causing side effects of those wacky SSRI cocktails

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774024)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: twins

Don't think so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774073)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: GARFIELD

aren't u a psychiatrist? please state ur vested interest in perpetuating ur quack profession b4 i engage u further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774193)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: twins

I treat behavioral issues in the dogs of the rich using behavioral therapy, family systems analysis, and yes, if warranted, drug therapy. Regardless, here I am making a purely factual assertion: he had depression, it was treated successfully (by his account) for many years by a MAO-I, then he went off the MAO-I and soon after got depressed and killed himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774236)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: GARFIELD

so you actually follow the ideal and treat with words before resorting to drug therapy?

CR, very rare in the states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774264)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Not a chance in hell. It's either drugs or "cbt" ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774443)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: GARFIELD

yeah, this is the case 99% of the time

"CBT" jfc what a cruel joke being played on these people paying 300$ an hour to be patronized

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775203)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: twins

Behavioral activation therapy seems to work about as well and is much easier to run.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775211)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

But he didn't necessarily "get depressed" in the sense that might be assumed by that phrasing, ie, it could have been the depression he was experiencing was a severity caused by the discontinuation of the medication itself, and was not simply his otherwise natural depressive state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774308)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: twins

Yeah, maybe. It is also possible he developed an undetected brain tumor, or was secretly dosed with downers. Who knows?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774323)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Are you seriously suggesting antidepressants don't have discontinuation effects?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774417)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: twins

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774441)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: soulful thuglyfe poet

Jordan Peterson | The Last Psychiatrist | twins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774329)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: ACP's skinny penis

Don’t insult twins like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774360)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:58 PM
Author: GARFIELD

TLP is 180 in spite of his dodgy political leanings

JP not so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774817)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

say that to my fucking face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774971)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: asian speculum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775242)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: ACP's skinny penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774356)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: devops199

Cr, DFW had severe treatment resistant depression and the Nardil lifted him enough to allow him to write, but his output is clearly the product of a semi-pathological mind (although his journalistic pieces are pretty good imo). I believe he stopped taking Nardil after having a hypertensive crisis at a restaurant, and not long after fell back into depression and then subsequently tried to resume his pharma regimen to no avail. Really hits home that if you need to take these kinds of meds, you probably shouldn't stop because the underlying pathology is not something you ever really "get over".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774799)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: twins

Cr. Also, there is a very good chance what he took to be a hypertensive crisis was in fact a panic attack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774806)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: devops199

Very possible. Either way his psych should have said stay on the Nardil and carry a damn nifedipine amulet if you're worried about a hypertensive crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774928)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: twins

Did his doctor really endorse going off? That would be surprising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774934)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: devops199

Not sure. Probably didn't endorse going off, but possibly didn't do enough to keep him on. Tbf, DFW should have known better himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775038)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Such trash. What all these people suffer from is a lack of people that care enough to listen to them and lack of connection. put a medicine bandaid on it if you want but don't pretend the cause of depression and anxiety is a "chemical imbalance". Absolute trash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774957)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: twins

Even granting all that, you have not presented an argument against antidepressants in all cases, as not every depressed person has sufficient people who care enough to listen to and connect with them (whatever the effective dose of that may be), and the utility of antidepressants as a treatment bears no necessary relation to the cause of depression.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775052)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

I was reacting precisely to.the use of antidepressants under the theory that "the underlying pathology is not something you ever really "get over"."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775173)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: twins

Ah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775198)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Which, listen man, I get. But I don't think the system does a good job trying even with 20 year olds. And I for the most part fail to see how medication will improve intergenerational psychological problems export to deficiently cover them up. The children won't get healthy coping strategies from hard won role models, for example, it seems to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775252)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: twins

Maybe. How do you explain twin studies and gwas hits? E.g., https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/07/24/167577

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775306)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Even granting a nontrivial proportion of depression risk can be casually ascribed to certain genes, your suggestion is to engineer happier humans, is that the implication?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775337)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: twins

I'm not quite sure what you mean. If people want to be happier, and it seems likely antidepressants will help, I see no reason to rule them out.

What about people who get post-stroke depression (link below) - are they just suffering ennui and alienation?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3890916/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775386)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:31 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

My parameters are pretty clear. Your run of the mill Joe faggot who goes to counseling and gets pushed medication. Not old people, not brain damaged people. The regular people, especially the younger ones, that make up 80% of your take home pay. Even if their psychological problems are partly generic. The "they said they wanted to be happier so I gave them mind numbing pills after one visit" defense is bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775438)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:36 PM
Author: twins

I don't think your last sentence is a fair characterization. I tend to agree that antidepressants are often prescribed too freely. At the same time, many who could benefit from them do not get them. From what I know of his history, DFW seems to have had severe, recurrent major depression, as well as anxiety, such that his life was a living hell until he found a treatment regimen that worked for him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775470)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:43 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Not fair? You sit across from someone in emotional pain and say "do you want a pill that will make you happier without having to do anything?" and if they just so happen to say yes you literally give them a 1 month free sample. Just enough, coincidentally, that they will become dependent. It's fucking ludicrous to now defend that by saying "if we didn't flood the market and medicate an almost order of magnitude more people than we needed to some fractional marginal patient would be missed." Its almost unequivocally clear that the marginal net benefit is beyond negative. And you sit in your office and pretend like this is a cool calculation you're making, when youre just following the fucking money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775497)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: twins

I've never given someone pills because they said they wanted to be happier. That is what the drug dealer is for. And I think people should be making their own decisions about these things, except when they are incompetent for some reason. Your purported cost benefit analysis is contestable, and rests on ipse dixit. And your follow the money foam is odd, given that doctors don't (and legally can't) get kickbacks for steering patients to drugs.

You seem to me to be applying a moral way of thinking to a practical problem. Since you feel so strongly, I encourage you to volunteer at a psychiatric hospital or similar so that you can lend an understanding ear to MDD patients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775531)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

You're fucking insane. If 3% of people are depressed and 20% are on medication that cost benefit analysis isn't contestable. You might not get per unit kickbacks but plenty of you fucks take shady money. And I fail to see how this isn't a moral problem when half your patients are adolescents that you're teaching to have profoundly unhealthy relationships to their own mind so you can charge their insurance $500 for a 10 minute conversation and struggle to remember their name. You're shit and you don't even know it. That's the worst kind of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775575)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: twins

It's true, when you use made up numbers and vague accusations based on your say so it is hard to contest. It is only when you are called upon to marshal evidence for your apparently strong opinions that you come up short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775597)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Lol a psychiatrist that instantly cites to generic studies to validate his fraud business model asks me to show him the epidemiological evidence why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775607)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: twins

Aye yai yai.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775613)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Youre hurting more people than you help. Do you get that mr doctor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775626)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: twins

You say primum non nocere, I say look out for numero uno. And I am _not_ a doctor!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775643)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

I don't care what you are, you have a detestable attitude towards other people's minds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775667)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: twins

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775687)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: devops199

This is a fairly unlettered view, but for sake of argument DFW had literally millions of people hanging on his every word. I don't think the issue is "a lack of people who care enough to listen."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775071)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Conjunctions are conjunctive. At least among the unlettered lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775157)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: devops199

It doesn't seem that you've ever engaged with the scientific literature on this subject, despite having a strong opinion. No need to get emotional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775230)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

Lol thanks morty, based on your inability to detect or understanding a simple logical predicate I'm sure your patients trust and feel listened to by you. keep lazily pushing pills on teenagers under the guise of file drawer science. You're a real value to are society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775295)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: devops199

Not sure how this relates at all to me saying that DFW and others with a history of treatment resistant depression should stay on their meds, or why you assume I'm a psychiatrist. Don't want to turn this into anymore of a subthread wasteland than it already is so I'm out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775465)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:43 PM
Author: 20th Year at Kenner, Bach, and Ledeen

No one cares faggot move along

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775498)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: ....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..


he was a fucking junkie. he had the personality of a maudlin junkie, the gross habits, the deviousness etc. he was just a standard issue self-absorbed, shifty junkie, the kind you find at NA/AA by the the truckload, but he had 20 more IQ points and semi-intellectual pretensions

he was basically a literary Con Artist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774225)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: twins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774327)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: GARFIELD

yes, but he produced some very entertaining stuff from time to time----especially when he was aping Pynchon (which he did particularly well, possibly well enough to make it a pointless endeavour to even _try_ to do the same after)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774363)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: i'm sorry, i don't date 3D

dostoevsky was a compulsive gambler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774369)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: GARFIELD

authors are generally ("often" is also an acceptable descriptor here) shit people who spend most of their lifetime trying to construct elaborate houses out of words to shelter themselves from the natural elements of life (feelings, aging, judgement of society, et al)

it produces some great scholarship, but is also irredeemably toxic. secure people with great COCK|MIND|BALANCE rarely ever feel the need to write in long-form, and tend to mostly live in the present until death (while still making all of the right decisions, as if they were constantly analyzing their past & preparing/planning for the future)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774389)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: i'm sorry, i don't date 3D

i'm not disagreeing but given these facts "DFW was a junkie (or had the personality of one)" doesn't seem anywhere near as damning when comparing him to other writers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774416)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: ....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..


but Dostoevsky was actually insightful.

David Foster Wallace is adolescent rubbish. everything he writes seems to be about the basic boring idea that he/his character is acting like a ***'fraud'*** or something. OMG, THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT I AM, LIKE, TOTALLY NOT THE PERSON THEY THINK I AM. then a bunch of drawn-out punitively boring footnoted shit about tennis/twelve-step programs.

these are the preoccupations and formulations of a boring junkie.

i admit i have only read like 10 pages of him, and i refuse to read anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774410)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: hair loss at 19

Thanks for confirming with your last sentence because this entire thing is a retardedly facile take aimed more at the idea of his writing and what you think it represents than the writing itself.

He was a phenomenal writer and you need to stop being a flouncing homosexual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775292)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: ....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..


he was dogshit. that his writing is aesthetically hideous is the least controversial criticism one can make about him.

it's just plain bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775312)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: twins

I'd locate the problem with DFW chiefly in an excess of verbal over non-verbal IQ such that he was left with nothing to furnish his rococo word palaces. That aside, his writing exhibits the solipsistic meandering that characterizes the insufferably depressed, and he never accumulated a store of life experience, or authentic knowledge of other people, as might compensate for sticking with him through his ceaseless Blair Witch circles of insecurity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774414)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: ''''''''''''"''''

this is dumb. i am a huge fan of your posting but this is spitballing horseshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775580)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: twins

We can agree to disagree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775584)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: twins

Also, thanks! re the poasting. I may be overly harsh on DFW because of insecurity; I see in him what I fear in myself. (Not that I've his talent). I have not read him for a really long time -- maybe I will give it another go at some point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35781585)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: GARFIELD (πŸ”™πŸŒŒ)

idk, maybe it wasn't intentional(ok almost certainly wasn't)---but that spiritual emptiness in his works, and the robotic, fundamentally absurd characters that fill them are very poetic

also come back twins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#37046273)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: boner police?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35774423)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: GARFIELD

high quality posts ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775144)



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Date: April 5th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: boner police?

really smart and creative and handsome people enjoy mcdonalds and long cut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775398)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: redwood dood (luis)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35781599)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 5:27 AM
Author: weather (uspo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#37761868)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: InTheZone

He blamed GC for his shit diet in "Mister Squishy": a focus group tests new chocolate snacks called Felonies! that invite the consumer to find joy in transgression.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35775764)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: weather



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#37046248)



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Date: April 6th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: weather



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3940564&forum_id=2#35781535)