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Apparently Engineer/STEM shortage is a myth created to lower wages
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791591) |
Date: April 8th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Clear know-it-all marketing idea station Wouldn't a shortage increase wages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791596) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Pontificating ebony boltzmann it would, but telling everyone there's a shortage would lower wages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791625) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Clear know-it-all marketing idea station Why?
Edit: -I see, the thread is a reference to h1b programs. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Glittery Fat Ankles Theater It's the one path to decent money without incurring massive debt, of course they want to (((shut it down))) by importing as many Pradeeps as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791599) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Hideous Gay Wizard Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791691) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: soul-stirring mischievous hospital trump supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791901) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: floppy insane mediation i hate all those artificially created shortages used to decrease prices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791600) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: crawly box office The perception of the shortage is what's being used as an impetus to decrease prices there, hotshot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791637) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Hideous Gay Wizard Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791692) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Sinister pale forum electric furnace 100% true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791614) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown are you a STEM major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791639) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: yellow boyish abode I believe this was before the shortage was President. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791623) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: crawly box office told yall. it's glorified machinist work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791645) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Not sure, I still get constant recruiter calls and emails asking me to jump ship for a $20k raise and I'm already vastly overpaid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791647) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791654) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Mechanical but work in an unrelated industry due to some simulation work I've done there. I basically only work 3 to 5 hours a week and spend the rest of the time traveling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791665) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown how would you rank civil/electrical/mech for jobs now and in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791673) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: dun chapel gaping high end EE is going to be tops forever, although you'll see some wage depression at the low end of the market since they're easily replaced by chink/turdbots
Civil will be replaced by AI in 20 years or less, so hang a shingle if you have your stamp and start a small firm doing subcontracts to megafirms while you still can.
Mech should be the same to slightly better at all levels. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown do two year engineering technologists get decent jobs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791743) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Probably much more secure than some engineers, since they're on the plant floor and actually understand the practical aspects of production and design. A good technician can make a bad design work, and a bad tech can fuck up a good design just as easily. Definitely not a bad field to get into for people who can't hack a 4 year school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791899) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown can they maek 70-80k with OT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791995) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Starting. Not even kidding, lots of them are pulling down more than engineers in the office because of OT and travel per diems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792195) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown Why did i take Econ? Why do avg people go into Law? For fuck sakes HS counselors are failing people in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792770) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:43 PM Author: Trip chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793066) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Nothing says you are stuck in econ now. Drop in, relive your glory years and pwn some young cunnus while setting yourself up for a career instead of just a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793157) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:03 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown did you stop at Mech undergrad? Or, do you have masters, jd, etc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794899) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: dun chapel gaping UG, this site saved me from going to Lawl School. I dropped out of engineering freshman year and went polisci for 2 years then saw the light and now bank a chill $90k in a tertiary market with a company car and sick bennys. Will probably do a night school MBA in the next 2-3 years just because company will pay for it, then cop a promotion to management. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794910) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown how many more years did it take to do mech degree after 1 year eng dropout to 2 years polisci? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35855193) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:29 AM Author: Well-lubricated clown what 2 year engineering technology degree would you recommend to a bro? can you rank them please? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35929351) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Violet Nursing Home Lots of lower-level design work is going to go away. CIvil is fucked the hardest long term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791923) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown did not know this. good info here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791997) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: transparent incel What kind of simulation? You went mech —> CS basically? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791898) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: dun chapel gaping Fluid mechanics with non-newtonian fluids. I went into basically chem eng, but with little to no knowledge of actual chemistry. I just troubleshoot on site but have enough knowledge that I can program simulations of what's happening and why something is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791906) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: transparent incel Sounds hard. I only know of "Oobleck".... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792249) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: impertinent dragon Future for patent law? should I go back to engineering? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793651) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:02 PM Author: dun chapel gaping No idea, I have never dealt with IP lawyers yet. My friend got one of his designs patented and his F500 company only gave him a $500 bonus ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794893) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: crawly box office Recruiters just dump you in the mosh pit with all of the other resumes they're harvesting. People who do actually get back in touch with these idiot recruiters are being asked how many decades of experience they have with Lisp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791660) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: rebellious big brunch nibblets Yes
https://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: Well-lubricated clown damn. this is from 2013 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791718) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Clear know-it-all marketing idea station Great paragraph:
The nature of STEM work has also changed dramatically in the past several decades. In engineering, for instance, your job is no longer linked to a company but to a funded project. Long-term employment with a single company has been replaced by a series of de facto temporary positions that can quickly end when a project ends or the market shifts. To be sure, engineers in the 1950s were sometimes laid off during recessions, but they expected to be hired back when the economy picked up. That rarely happens today. And unlike in decades past, employers seldom offer generous education and training benefits to engineers to keep them current, so out-of-work engineers find they quickly become technologically obsolete. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: ungodly galvanic temple Remember Sandra Bland of BLM fame? Both her (working a temporary glorified RA job at her college) and the cop who pulled her over had STEM degrees. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791772) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: transparent incel Well, both were "agriculture" majors, so... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792252) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: onyx office dopamine so they had STEAM degrees, not STEM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792288) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: transparent incel STEAM seems like such flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792405) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: Clear know-it-all marketing idea station They're great on TEAMS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792428) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: titillating mexican a STEAM degree? Choo! Choo! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792557) |