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NBC: Asian-Americans rejected by H need to resist anti-AA narrative
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: buff nudist police squad Marie Myung-Ok Lee
Asian-Americans rejected by Harvard need to resist the anti-affirmative action narrative
Our community is being fed a story by a white man trying to preserve spaces at colleges for mediocre white students, not stellar Asian-American ones. There is a story about race-based college admissions that holds particular sway over Asian-American students like I once was — my father wrote away for my Harvard application before I was out of diapers. It’s backed up by some cherry-picked data and a conservative activist group that wants to end all affirmative action, and it goes something like this: Because of colleges’ consideration of diversity, Asian-American students have to be even smarter than the average white student in order to qualify for admission to the most competitive American universities.
But the issue hiding in plain sight is not how the elite admissions system keeps Asians out; it is more about how it is largely rigged to keep white students — who are often staggeringly underqualified — in, by any means necessary.
There’s reason enough to be suspicious of the intentions of the people pushing our community to take on affirmative action: The man behind the pending lawsuit against Harvard University, for instance, is Edward Blum, who, as the Texas Tribune reported, is the strategist behind the Texas affirmative action case and "the man who recruited Abigail Fisher."
There’s reason enough to be suspicious of the intentions of the people pushing our community to take on affirmative action.
Fisher, you may recall, was the complainant in the recent Supreme Court case challenging affirmative action at the University of Texas; the Supreme Court quickly came to the conclusion that Fisher's grades and scores were simply too low for her to have qualified for admission — an unwittingly perfect illustration of how race-based admissions generate controversy, while white mediocrity goes accepted and unchallenged.
While it is right to press Harvard to end any practice of denying admission to otherwise qualified Asian students based on racial quotas — which Harvard denies exists — websites like Harvardnotfair.org feature a lone, pensive Asian person and ask, ominously, “Were You denied admission to Harvard? It may be because you’re the wrong race.”
But before aggrieved students rush to sign up, it is time to take a breath.
Though Harvardnotfair.org (or UNCnotfair.org or Uwnotfair.org) all prominently feature sad-looking Asian-Americans, these are all Blum projects in service of white supremacy and not Asian-American equality. Just click through to the fine print: “HarvardnotFair.org is an undertaking by the Project on Fair Representation (POFR). Founded in 2005, POFR is a program of Project Liberty, Inc., a 501 (c) (3) public charity. Our mission is to support litigation that challenges racial and ethnic classifications and preferences in state and federal courts.”
Harvard Business School students celebrate their graduation on April 08, 2005 in Boston. Brooks Kraft / Corbis Via Getty Images File Think about that. He seems to be willing to use anything — including Asians — to dismantle affirmative action.
There’s one study most commonly cited in service of the idea of "the Asian penalty" in admissions. Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade ran a demographic study using applicant data from the 1980s to the 1990s and found that Asians needed on average 140 SAT points higher than whites to arrive at the same probabilities of acceptance to highly competitive private colleges.
There are plenty of commonly cited critiques of his study, which even Espenshade admits didn’t take into account many of the non-numerical factors considered in admissions. And a 2015 Justice Department investigation into Princeton’s admissions practices, for instance, found that many students with stellar and even flawless academic records were denied admission because the competitiveness of the applicant pool precluded the admission of every student who qualified on the numbers alone.
But even if admissions processes took numbers more strongly into account, reparative increases of Asian-American admissions would need to come from subtracting the spots from underqualified whites, not from supposed affirmative action candidates — and that is clearly not the purpose of Blum’s suits.
Even if admissions processes took numbers more strongly into account, reparative increases of Asian American admissions would need to come from subtracting the spots from underqualified whites, not from supposed affirmative action candidates.
And even were they the purpose of Blum’s suits, Espenshade’s studies suggests that, at the most competitive colleges, underqualified white candidates can still rely on a host of longstanding admissions processes that favor them (and not any students of color) regardless of SAT scores.
Espenshade, for instance, also found that recruited athletes had a fourfold advantage in admissions with lower mean test scores. To be sure, athletes in the broadest sense are diverse. However, Harvard, for example, actively recruits for swimming, fencing, lacrosse, soccer, squash, water polo, skiing, sailing and crew — sports that highly favor the wealthy and white.
And then there is the admissions loophole that favors the children of alumni and large donors: A legacy applicant to an elite college is more than seven times more likely to gain admission than an ordinary applicant. After generations of admissions policies that favored white people or outright excluded nonwhite people, this would necessarily disproportionately benefit white applicants.
In an interview, Michael Dannenberg, director of Education Reform Now, points out that these policies "don't reward merit. ... In fact, they undermine both and are fundamentally unfair."
When the goal of ending affirmative action is not specifically to better Asian American's change of admission — and it never is — but to dismantle race-based protections for others in favor of white students, we don’t benefit.
And, in California, there is evidence that banning affirmative action doesn’t affect white and Asian-American students in equal measure, despite some cherry-picked statistics to the contrary: Proposition 209 banned affirmative action at the state's schools starting in 1998. Seeming to confirm the idea of Asian-American merit, enrollment of Asians indeed increased at the most competitive California schools, like Berkeley.
However, OiYan Poon, an assistant professor of higher education at Loyola University, took a deeper dive into the data and found that the rate of increased admissions of Asian-Americans actually declined from 16 percent growth to 6 percent growth; the reported increase in overall enrollment was "likely due to significant demographic shifts in the state and a higher yield rate among admitted Asian-American applicants."
In other words, even as the population of Asian-Americans in California exploded, the increase in the rate of admissions didn’t keep pace. This suggests that when the goal of ending affirmative action is not specifically to better Asian-Americans' chance of admission — and it never is — but to dismantle race-based protections for others in favor of white students, we don’t benefit.
Asian Americans need to resist the fallacies being sold to us.
Asian-Americans need to resist the fallacies being sold to us; I know from personal experience how attractive they are, given that I, too, was disappointed by my rejection from Harvard despite being class valedictorian, captain of a varsity athletic team and having well-above-average SAT scores, among other accomplishments that I’d hoped would make me a shoo-in. I'd heard rumors that it was my SAT scores, compared to other Asian-American students, that kept me out — and maybe, despite Harvard’s current denials in court, it was. Harvard's deployment of possible (illegal) quotas needs to be dealt with, but not via false allies who exploit legitimate grievances to maintain white mediocrity at the expense of qualified blacks, Latinos, Native Americans and, yes, Asian-Americans.
The people claiming they want "colorblind" admissions aren’t likely to welcome mass numbers of Asian-American classmates with open arms.
Marie Myung-Ok Lee teaches fiction at Columbia and has been published in The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Nation, The Guardian and The Paris Review, among others. She was born and raised in Hibbing, Minnesota, the same as Nobel laureate Bob Dylan.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/asian-americans-rejected-harvard-need-resist-anti-affirmative-action-narrative-ncna863496 |
Date: April 10th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: cruel-hearted alpha set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808222) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Odious drab point The nerve of these people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808231) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: geriatric honey-headed bawdyhouse Jfc at that opening line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808237) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: Bearded bat-shit-crazy skinny woman mother Uncle Chan sure loves to be cucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808266) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: mahogany step-uncle's house cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808998) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Adventurous Sapphire Wrinkle this Auntie Chan certainly is a fiction writer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808287) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: buff nudist police squad Even if admissions processes took numbers more strongly into account, reparative increases of Asian American admissions would need to come from subtracting the spots from underqualified whites, not from supposed affirmative action candidates.
um, why? |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808311) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: beady-eyed sickened gas station BECAUSE FUCK WHITEY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808322) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: supple marketing idea what it boils down to every single time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808987) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: High-end Rusted Address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810118) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Bronze stimulating stag film Pretty revealing that you'd even need to ask that question, racist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808323) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Odious drab point athletes/legacy she claims...I'd like to see the numbers on that
but wtf is "supposed affirmative action candidates." Why do libs demand that we not only submit to massive affirmative action but also deny that it exists? That sounds religious |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: buff nudist police squad Yeah, also I'm pretty sure almost no white athletes/legacies are getting 400 point SAT bumps or whatever it its. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808346) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena This is going back a ways, but I was friends with a girl who played Division 3 soccer, but her first choice was Harvard. She was HS valedictorian, 1560 SAT, and ended up graduating Summa from undergrad and got a STEM phd from Yale.
She was point blank told not to apply through the soccer team at Harvard because they only are given slack for a few key applicants and that it would actually be HARDER for her get in as a recruited athlete. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: buff nudist police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808386) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: supple marketing idea this is completely and unbelievably untrue.
(check my moniker) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena Why would she lie to me?
I have no doubt that being a walk-on level soccer player wouldn't get you any pull.
The non-top tier wrestling guys all have excellent credentials |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: supple marketing idea because it wouldn't be harder for her as a recruited athlete. it would significantly help her, as her academic chops would bring up the rest of the recruits.
she likely just didn't understand the admissions process, or the school really wasn't at all interested in her as a player. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Violent passionate ceo gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35817500) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Violent passionate ceo gaping These are the things people who get dinged say to save face.
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: Dashing carmine feces "Yeah, also I'm pretty sure almost no white athletes/legacies are getting 400 point SAT bumps or whatever it its"
You would be wrong, and it's clear you didn't attend an elite school. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: buff nudist police squad I'm sure there are a few. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808394) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena as someone tied into the wrestling community, there are a few nice bumps but it's much harder than you think, and those who get bumps are legit national-level athletic talents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808435) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Dashing carmine feces 400 pt boosts are common at least on football teams. Not sure about less popular sports like wrestling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808486) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: supple marketing idea happens in basketball too, but 400 points is pushing it even for revenue sports. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808554) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: supple marketing idea (jesse jantzen) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808618) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena saw him win a bunch of state titles.
Corey Jantzen, JP O'Connor and Steven Keith too. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: supple marketing idea nice man. guess they're all NY? latter two are after my time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808655) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena correct.
what did you play? |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: supple marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808664) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena cool. makes some sense with the JJ quip... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808712) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: supple marketing idea ha yeah. long island mo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808743) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena my fiancee is from Long Island and i have a friend who was an Ivy all-american.
i bet we have some connection somewhere... |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: supple marketing idea almost certainly. it's a very small world, especially since it's so heavily concentrated in a handful of states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808825) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Very Tactful Histrionic Parlour Date: April 10th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: dha tux
chess
(going to delete this in a few)
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: supple marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808751) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug if you see aa as reparations the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged. then you have to hurt whitey. this is about hurting whitey, not merit, not fairness, not equality. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: underhanded galvanic national boiling water I don't think that wouldn't be an operating principle in the world in which AA is eliminated on the grounds that it is racially discriminatory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35813489) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug the double negative makes that hard to read. restate, please |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: underhanded galvanic national boiling water "I don't think that would be..." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35819737) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Brindle goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808604) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 1:58 AM Author: underhanded galvanic national boiling water "um, why?"
Because they would NEED to.
It says right there -- WOULD NEED TO COME. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:03 AM Author: Chestnut insane water buffalo fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814567) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena >> But the issue hiding in plain sight is not how the elite admissions system keeps Asians out; it is more about how it is largely rigged to keep white students — who are often staggeringly underqualified — in, by any means necessary. <<
link? |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Arousing heaven idiot lol what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808352) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Odious drab point this is just an absolutely insane statement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808374) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Brindle goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808607) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Mind-boggling Dull Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809577) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Kink-friendly big boltzmann station TCR this is one of the most poorly written and illogical articles I've ever written. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824071) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: smoky cerebral university jap what in the fucking world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808779) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Aphrodisiac church building "the same as Nobel laureate Bob Dylan." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808350) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Multi-colored mewling main people boistinker lmao it's the cot damn CRACKERS who are underqualified here! buncha waltzing tundra bunnies wearing pants up around theyre nipples (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808354) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug staggeringly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808379) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Adventurous Sapphire Wrinkle yes those oppressive 20% white christian students at Harvard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808384) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library tbf, they are probably all mediocre legacies
harvard will never reduce white population b/c they want to keep that legacy money flowing |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena shouldn't her attack be on legacies and $$$ as opposed to whites? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808403) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library yes, but this is more clickbait journalism
the Ivies are historically full of legacies - in fact i think princeton used to be 1/3 legacy (maybe as high as 40%) back in the 1990s. It's actually gotten a lot better recently. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena my cynical side says that they wouldn't attack legacies because once you're in it benefits you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808475) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug you are projecting think like a shitlib and you'll come up with a different premise for the article. then it makes sense |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Arousing heaven idiot stfu retard, adults are talking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808404) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library OK, boner police (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808413) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Odious drab point However, OiYan Poon, an assistant professor of higher education at Loyola University, took a deeper dive into the data and found that the rate of increased admissions of Asian-Americans actually declined from 16 percent growth to 6 percent growth; the reported increase in overall enrollment was "likely due to significant demographic shifts in the state and a higher yield rate among admitted Asian-American applicants."
Ethnicity, 2016[6] Undergrad Graduate Percentage Black Non-Hispanic 1,485 619 4.8% Asian or Pacific Islander 9,917 2,566 29.1% Hispanic 6,462 1,188 17.3% American Indian or Alaskan Native 169 79 0.6% White Non-Hispanic 8,113 4,394 29.1% Unstated, Unknown, Other 1,068 670 4.0% Foreign 3,659 3,159 15.2% |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Jade meetinghouse legend *snickers at name* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808524) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Spectacular lilac tanning salon telephone Poon! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808622) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor libs can go fuck themselves but we should leave AA the way it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808447) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library what do you think about the high %s of legacy admit at the Ivies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808455) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor they should be allowed to admit whoever the fuck they want and I don't think it's as high as you seem to think it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808477) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/legacy-admission-numbers/
Nearly a third of Harvard’s incoming Class of 2021 consists of legacy students. That’s right. If you pick out three Harvard undergraduates at random, chances are strong that one will be the progeny of a Harvard alum.
I don't know their stats, but legacy admissions is still rampant among the Ivies. I personally know at least 3 Harvard legacy admits (who didn't even get in EA and their dads made a call after they were rejected and donated some money and got them in). |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: Odious drab point without data on the differential in SAT scores this is meaningless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808498) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library That's true - anecdotally though (with my sample size of 3), those guys were mediocre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808509) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: Odious drab point well I guess that solves it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808522) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor yes, your totally believable anecdote that you know 3 different people whose fathers can and did get them into H with one phone call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808585) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library i do, granted this was like 10 years ago, but still (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808593) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Kink-friendly big boltzmann station completely made up.
if they know your parents have money they will WL you and then have the inevitable talk about what they can do to get you off the waitlist. some shit schools like cornell may also transfer option you where you will essentially be guaranteed transfer admission if you want it.
FYI I understand the going donation rate to get a reasonably bright but not qualified kid into H or Y is in the $700-1M range. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: buff nudist police squad Is there any data showing legacy admits are significantly less qualified? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808518) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug i'd like to see it, too, because i doubt they tend to be less qualified, sure. significantly, like aa admits? no way it's not like lower ivies, and the step down schools have tards |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: saffron corner giraffe I know a daughter of a legacy, these days a lot of asians are legacies so her kid was your typical super study; I'm sure had all the right grades and scores. Also, founded a super feminist org in high school that no doubt was her admissions kicker.
The legacy advantage also comes from simply KNOWING what the admission standards are and tracking a kid towards it. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: supple marketing idea very solid post
legacies are often ultra qualified in their own ways, and parents know what adcoms are looking for |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor why look at the percent enrolled and not the percent accepted? Most of them probably are qualified and if they do give preference to legacies it probably is because they're more likely to enroll. How many alums actually are rich enough to buy their 1400 SAT shithead kid into the school? not very many. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808561) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Kink-friendly big boltzmann station LOL a 1400 SAT kid would do just fine at Harvard assuming he or she majored in the humanities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824248) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate id agree with this if going to a good school weren't so fundamental for economic advancement. university education is too important for universities to play god with people's future. i think there needs to be guidelines (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808801) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor if you have the grades to reasonably have a shot at H, then you'll do just fine. kids with family money and connections have more of an advantage than someone who went to harvard over cornell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808870) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:19 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate the question is should universities be able to accept whoever they want -- i.e. should they be able to discriminate (that's the contention of the poast i responded to). Can you see why you saying "people who don't get into H can always go to Cornell" doesn't adequately address the issue of whether universities should be able to discriminate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811304) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:36 AM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor Yes it does and they should be allowed to "discriminate" i.e. - accept who they want and not necessarily according to some autistic gook formula (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814785) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate I’ll repeat the question cause you seem to be struggling: Can you see why saying "people who have the grades to get into H, but don’t, can always go to a school like Cornell" doesn't adequately address the issue of whether universities should be able to discriminate?
Hint: it might have something to do with the fact that you’re assuming that some good universities (Cornell) won’t discriminate like better universities (Harvard) in a world where universities can discriminate without federal oversight.
I know you’re gonna say: “but those schools already discriminate!” But the question at hand is whether schools should be able to accept whoever they want, i.e. discriminate in a manner contrary to federal law as it stands: should schools be able to impose actual quotas/deny admissions to a particular race no matter their credentials. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor it does address the issue. colleges should be able to admit whoever they want to, period. you're assuming that colleges having admissions criteria other than grades and sat scores automatically = discrimination and it causes your asian head to explode.
yes, colleges should absolutely be allowed to have quotas on which races or any other demographics they want to have. We shouldn't have the fed govt mandate by law that harvard is required to be 98% chinese immigrants just because they all cheat on the SATs and that's the only thing that matters in their bug brains. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate No I’m saying that the rule “colleges should be able to accept whoever they want without interference from the federal government” could easily lead to a world where universities accept 99% Asians, or 99% whites, or 99% legacies, or 99% any other criteria you can think of.
A degree from a respectable university is necessary for socioeconomic advancement. If we want to be a country where socioeconomic success is based on merit, we need to ensure that universities don’t “accept whoever they want” but rather base their admissions decisions on merit.
A world where admissions decisions are based on merit, HOWEVER DEFINED, is not compatible with a world where universities accept “whoever they want.” (all caps because I don’t trust your reading comp skills not to misinterpret this sentence)
Think about what I’m saying (and as importantly what I’m not saying). You’ll get there.
Edit: LOL at you thinking I’m Asian. My original post was disagreeing with the guy who said “universities should be able to accept whoever they want” as a point IN DEFENSE of AA. How tf does me disagreeing with the premise that universities should be able to accept whoever they want imply my being opposed to an admissions system that takes into account things other than gpa and standardized test scores? |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:09 PM Author: burgundy travel guidebook senate "yes, colleges should absolutely be allowed to have quotas on which races or any other demographics they want to have."
I think the vast majority of those who oppose AA would agree with this statement if everyone else, in all spheres of life, were permitted to do the same. |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate do you personally agree with the rule you just suggested? I'd oppose it because i think it would result in balkanization along racial lines and significantly increase civil strife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35827747) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug protip. it's not, cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809011) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: supple marketing idea (prole tell) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809020) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate cr just look at all the college dropouts who've built tech companies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811282) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: unholy corn cake "id agree with this if going to a good school weren't so fundamental for economic advancement."
Twist: it's not |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811275) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Brindle goyim Why should we leave AA the way it is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808614) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor 1. colleges should be allowed to admit whoever they want to
2. it's probably one of the least expensive or disruptive programs out there to get blacks to stop acting like blacks.
3. there already are too many superstudy chinks at colleges and in general. everyone is sick of them and their chinky bullshit. all colleges, even kind of shitty ones, will look like bug colonies if admissions are reduced to pure numbers. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 6:07 PM Author: snowy boyish yarmulke filthpig private colleges, sure.
but state governments sorting by race and doling out admissions that way? no. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: flesh fortuitous meteor state colleges should above and all ensure that students from their state are able to attend. after that it's up to them to decide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35817450) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Odious drab point its just like genetics shit with libs. Harvard takes federal money so why don't they just open their books and we'll see what's there. If it is truly just white mediocrities benefiting from AA, then that will be apparent and the argument will be over. Why don't libs want to do this then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808536) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library Because that will undoubtedly fuck over AA for URMS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808556) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Odious drab point that's certainly not the argument the author above was making. the standard party line is that affirmative action is a minor factor, must not be discussed, somehow benefits whites the most, and that we need to stop talking about it right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808574) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Mind-boggling Dull Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809584) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 2:15 AM Author: indigo soul-stirring dopamine hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35813518) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:11 AM Author: Khaki piazza potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814616) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin Basically, yeah. In every other context libs understand the need and value for transparency.
Well, how about it libs, if AA is so important why shouldn't we know exactly how big of a boost everybody is getting? You could anonymize and aggregate the data. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Glittery Gold Library lol, b/c it's about "holistic" admissions. they are trying to make this as constitutionally sound as possible.
Not just randomly assigning +400 SAT points to URMs, and -150 SAT points to asians, which is probably precisely what happens in the admissions room |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Odious drab point surely soft factors excluding race could be quantified. when massive disparities remain, the explanation would be clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808623) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Brindle goyim "Basically, yeah. In every other context libs understand the need and value for transparency."
(guy who has never talked about welfare or how social programs are run with libs) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Odious drab point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808630) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin There's valid points about how legacy admissions are bullshit, but that only helps a tiny elite. Literally every person who can check the "african american" box gains from a massive boost.
I would be perfectly content to make a grand bargain whereby to retain non-profit status or be eligible for student loans or whatever racial discrimination was banned, in addition to legacy admissions. "Soft factors" could be considered, including poverty but not race (the kids of Chris Fucking Rock don't need an AA boost).
If there was a "disparate impact" (heh) and it sure seems that one ethnic group was getting a stealth AA boost either in admissions or AA, then it would be up to the university to prove their admissions practices were actually racially blind.
With the realities on the ground the "poverty" boost would disproportionately benefit latinos and blacks anyway. But it would also give poor white kids a shot and, again, not offer this massive windfall to well-off black kids. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Brindle goyim This, oc, would be the sane and reasonable thing to do if you want to create a good system. But libs would much rather make it explicitly racial so they could tell blacks and Latinos that they HAVE to vote for them or else everything they have will get taken away.
Asians and Jews will just vote for them because of propaganda like this even though this all works explicitly against them. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808706) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:37 AM Author: Mildly autistic patrolman church AA is good for Jews.
The best thing to be in a crude category based system like this is a member of an over performing subgroup within a mediocre overall group.
Jews get lumped in with country bumpkin whites, and SAT standards for that group are lower, even though Jew SATs are similar to Asians.
Same thing with wealthy groups of South Americans claiming to be Latino.
Or Nigerian engineers getting lumped in with ghetto hood rats.
The worst is being some kind of low IQ group within a high IQ group: Vietnamese gangsters have to compete with violin virtuoso Cindy Changs, White trash and thuggish eyetalians are up against rich Jews and WASPs. |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: Kink-friendly big boltzmann station This guy gets it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824271) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: buff nudist police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824282) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena cr, they get a ton of cover.
but if you take a more cynical view, the systems in place at a school are OVERTLY preferring jews even over and above their good performance statistics, but it goes unnoticed because jews aren't specifically called out. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate another point is top schools recruiting for things like lacrosse, crew, sailing, etc. makes me think getting rid of AA wouldnt fix problem of admissions being based on non academic factors/leading to racial disparities, while just hurting blacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808668) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin Poor whites don't play lacrosse either. If they're going to compensate poor blacks for the disadvantage they're at because of lower lacrosse representation, then why not poor whites? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808704) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: supple marketing idea now now, plenty of non-wealthy laxmos from NYS and canada (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808754) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate (guy who hasn't seen H's crew team) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808781) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: Fighting thriller field roommate if you're saying socio economic class should be considered, then i agree. not sure how that would contradict my first post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808769) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: Odious drab point Charles (XVII) says that making it income based would basically wipe all blacks out of contention (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808690) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin Is that so? Well, then tough shit. It's one thing to get a boost to compensate for poverty, but if you can't compete on a level field with other poor people, then you don't get to go to Harvard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808730) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: supple marketing idea pretty much. would probably result in a lot more red state nerds getting in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808793) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: Khaki piazza potus And poor Asians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814651) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: burgundy travel guidebook senate "With the realities on the ground the "poverty" boost would disproportionately benefit latinos and blacks anyway."
Whites, actually. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:53 PM Author: Odious drab point another gem from this author (which includes her being triggered by a bass pro shop)
https://qz.com/1000690/im-a-minority-my-son-is-disabled-its-an-unsettling-time-for-people-like-us-in-trump-country/ |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena >> This spring, my family took a cross-country road trip. My husband and I have a son who has autism and other cognitive difficulties. <<
http://heymancenter.org/images/made/images/persons/marie_myung-ok_lee-208x300_200_170_s_c1.jpg
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2011/05/why_i_give_my_autistic_son_pot_part_4.html |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Odious drab point imagine traveling through this beautiful country and being obsessed the whole time with analyzing it in the context of contemporary politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808762) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena I just skimmed her article and it is both insane and inane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808786) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Odious drab point https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/the-hate-crime-in-chicago-was-about-disability-mor.html
"As a parent of a cognitively disabled half-Asian teen who can be easily mistaken for white"
every.time. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Hot vivacious plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808820) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Spectacular lilac tanning salon telephone In a more noble society her husband would commit hari kari from shame. Surprisingly doesn't look Jewish. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gNEKZDDfYRU/WHi69JiP8fI/AAAAAAAAEms/eTMri9JOc4gsEiQ7FTNjLGMO-twE9rQ7QCLcB/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Marie%2BMyung-Ok%2BLee%2Bwith%2Bher%2Bhusband%2Band%2Btheir%2Bson%2Bat%2Bage%2B12.JPG |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: mahogany step-uncle's house cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809003) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:27 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug she could have had a hot mystery ape lover hapa instead she gets frosty the snowman |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: Mind-boggling Dull Lay thank god the lineage of two deranged lunatics ends here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811182) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 2:05 AM Author: underhanded galvanic national boiling water "cognitively disabled half-Asian teen who can be easily mistaken for white"
I'm sure that's someone's moniker. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:38 PM Author: Dun stain office if u read the autism/pot essay it's actually imo pretty reasonable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810182) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:52 PM Author: stirring godawful dysfunction shrine What in the ever living fuck is that thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810310) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Yapping Turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35808797) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Spectacular lilac tanning salon telephone Easy for her to say. Her half-breed tard son is not getting in to college, let alone Harvard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809041) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:24 PM Author: stirring godawful dysfunction shrine Titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811340) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: Charismatic Opaque Theatre There really is little worse than a house asian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809083) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:39 PM Author: cyan vigorous brunch "Harvard's deployment of possible (illegal) quotas needs to be dealt with, but not via false allies who exploit legitimate grievances to maintain white mediocrity at the expense of qualified blacks, Latinos, Native Americans and, yes, Asian-Americans."
do libs really think there is some great pool of "qualified blacks, Latinos, Native Americans" who are getting cockblocked from harvard by white kids? that black kid with a 1540 (harvard's MEDIAN SAT score) got into all 20 schools where he applied - there is a full-blown FRENZY by universities whenever a black student gets anywhere near the usual admissions standards.
libs, do you realize that the following scenario NEVER happens: "Well, he has a 1500 SAT, but the polo team really needs Chadwick from Westchester with the 1350. Sorry, Jervontavious." |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: Silver trailer park antidepressant drug it would but for systemic racism, though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809164) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena lmao 180 fake quote at the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809178) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: burgundy travel guidebook senate No, you are missing their point.
The applicants' status of being black, latino, or native american, itself, is an exceptionally strong positive factor when determining the qualifications of the applicants. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: cerise cracking philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness Blacks are 15% of the most recent entering class at H. They are something like 1-2% of the 1400+ SAT pool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809439) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:02 PM Author: Adventurous Sapphire Wrinkle lol 2% my fucking ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35809890) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:55 PM Author: Odious drab point .2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810331) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:57 PM Author: beady-eyed sickened gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810347) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: cerise cracking philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness "These inequalities are especially concentrated at the tails of the score distribution; we estimate that at most only 1,000 blacks and 2,400 Latinos scored above a 750, compared to some 16,000 whites and 29,600 Asians."
~2% of 750+ SAT Math scorers are blacks, per this article.
And if you do the math on what % of the 130+ IQ population in the US is black, you end up around 1-2% there also.
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:24 PM Author: Appetizing institution love of her life Is that not an estimate of "at most"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811339) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: Mind-boggling Dull Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811190) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: lime wagecucks tattoo "To be sure, athletes in the broadest sense are diverse."
That's an understatement. It also shows how shitty this piece is. "Some people claim that athletics allows in more African-Americans than otherwise. While this is technically true, it is actually false because not 100% of athletes are A-A." |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 2:02 AM Author: underhanded galvanic national boiling water The linkage between "more" and "not 100%" is, uh, interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35813500) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 5:32 PM Author: High-end Rusted Address Any white male who doesnt vote for Trump or similiar candidates is committing suicide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810123) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: Awkward Swashbuckling Half-breed You did not belong at a law school better that OSU dummy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810896) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 6:00 PM Author: talented startled chad pic of her and her WHITE husband
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-made-my-son-cannabis-cookies-they-changed-his-life/2017/01/06/699b1d20-d1ef-11e6-a783-cd3fa950f2fd_story.html |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 6:27 PM Author: Swollen school sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810554) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: zombie-like elastic band background story Everyone knew this was coming. Sad how much self hatred Asians have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811132) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 6:09 PM Author: snowy boyish yarmulke filthpig she starts by casting a little shade on studies of the asian negative-bump, and then moves on, as if the point isn't settled.
here's what the elite schools have been doing"
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asians-click.png |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: White Persian ITT: a bunch of pencil-dicked cumskin dorks express shock and disgust at a literal asian-american 4 despite their massive, crippling yellow fever which undoubtedly results in said pencil-dicked cumskin dorks dating these very same mentally ill asian-american 4s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35810828) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:54 PM Author: zombie-like elastic band background story ITP: 3.5 inch dick haver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811166) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:55 PM Author: White Persian you = literally making AGWWG hellspawn with mentally ill asian-american 4s
NYUUG = literally fucking a new white girl every day
why? |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: zombie-like elastic band background story What happened to you? You used to be merely pathetic. Now? Legit insane. I really hope you are running some crazy long flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811181) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:01 PM Author: White Persian (literal pencil-dicked cumskin dork FURIOUS that NYUUG is hitting him with dat COLD NIGGA TRUTH, because, as we all know, the mentally ill asian-american girl in OP married a CUMSKIN DORK and not an alpha korean bro because unlike yellow fever betas, we dont date nasty asian american feminazis) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811200) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 8:39 PM Author: Odious drab point (Mentally ill draft dodger) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811477) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:06 PM Author: White Persian THE GREATEST (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811640) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: zombie-like elastic band background story But let’s be serious for a minute, how disappointed is your mom at how you turned out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811633) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: lime wagecucks tattoo wow I had never thought of it that way before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811180) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 7:59 PM Author: White Persian (guy who SWEARS eliot ROGER wasnt AGWWG hellspawn) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811195) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:37 PM Author: bisexual violent box office You wouldnt have preferred a lower ivy over nyu? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811796) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: White Persian i applied ED to NYU and got in. was the only school i applied to
lol@ the ivies. they are literally run by jews and literally have asian quotas. which is why asians who apply to the ivies should be gassed. no self-respecting asian would apply to one. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: bisexual violent box office So you dont disagree with the thrust of the thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811836) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: White Persian (asian who applied to the ivies) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811861) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: bisexual violent box office Urm.
You anticipated rejection and preemptively rejected them.
Seems like you agree that the system is stacked against azns in favor of urm. |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 10:02 PM Author: Charismatic Opaque Theatre In fairness. It shocking that an asian with his IQ even got into NYU. Talk about punching above your weight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811943) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 10:03 PM Author: White Persian i wouldnt have attended an ivy even if i were accepted to one, at least for UG
it just so happens that self-hating asians gun for the ivies, specifically, so avoiding the ivies is how you avoid the worst of them. if NYU was an asian gunner school i wouldnt have applied to it either
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: buff nudist police squad "lol@ the ivies. they are literally run by jews"
*goes to NYU instead* |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:53 PM Author: White Persian harvard = self-hating striver uncle chans
jew york university = chilled as fuck philo bros HAMing in ktown |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:53 PM Author: Brindle goyim Yeah, that was a baffling argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811895) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 2:18 AM Author: Concupiscible pervert spot Princeton and Dartmouth have resisted the Jew. Your stats just sucked. Stop shitting up this thread with endless subthread wastelands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35813524) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Crystalline Fluffy Masturbator Trust Fund Legacy admits are a much larger problem than let on itt but fuck bugs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35811841) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 10:13 PM Author: Pontificating nighttime business firm gunner So many misleading assertions and outright lies.
"Marie Myung-Ok Lee teaches fiction at Columbia" |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 11:42 PM Author: Brindle goyim And apparently writes fiction for NBC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35812753) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:22 AM Author: provocative parlor voyeur LOL @ this BS about blacks getting 400 extra points on the SAT.
I WOULD HAVE HAD LIKE AN 1800+/1600, and I wasn't even among the most competitive blacks at my school. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:40 AM Author: Mildly autistic patrolman church Correct.
What did the black Ivy League kid get on his SATs?
BBQ sauce. |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: Onyx Titillating Pisswyrm lol, love this joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814434) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:48 AM Author: Charismatic Opaque Theatre You’re not even trying anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814450) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:01 AM Author: provocative parlor voyeur Trying what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814550) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: Adventurous Sapphire Wrinkle asians with perfect scores from your school were getting rejected form yale. you got in with a 1400. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35817691) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: bisexual violent box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35818047) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Brindle goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35818081) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 8:51 AM Author: provocative parlor voyeur Well, a 1430 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35822663) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Scarlet Excitant Abode Black Woman Lmao. What's your point? That it's +200 points for being black, not +400 points? Either way: check your black privilege. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35817826) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 8:53 AM Author: provocative parlor voyeur It's not even 200. I was not given the equivalent of a 1630.
Yale's average for my class was like 1450 IIRC. My score was not crazy off. |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 9:00 AM Author: Pearly Blathering Striped Hyena I don't think a +X is really right.
I think a 1430 is high enough that it shouldn't really disqualify someone from consideration at the best schools.
The question that should really be asked is what is the probability someone with X on the SAT will get into a school like Yale. I'd assume for an African-American that number is pretty fucking high, whereas for a white or Asian it's almost impossibly low. |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Adventurous Sapphire Wrinkle cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35825725) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: Onyx Titillating Pisswyrm Most “whites,” including the so-called underqualified ones, in the Ivy League are Jewish. I’m fine with denying them admission in favor of Asians. The schools have been ruined for decades ruined anyway, may as well take away one further method of consolidation of Jewish power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814431) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: Scarlet Excitant Abode Black Woman Jews aren't the ones being denied admission in favor of Asians. Have you seen the Jewish percentages in the Ivy League? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35817853) |
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Date: April 11th, 2018 9:18 AM Author: hyperventilating exhilarant ticket booth pozpig Keep it up, azns. The DNC will deliver results for you just like they've done the blacks for 60 years! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35814670) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: free-loading kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35926917) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: razzle-dazzle crotch lodge This is how most millennial Asians think. Their parents are full blown conservaheroes tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824274) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: talented startled chad She's a boomer who teaches at an ivy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35824557) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: Charismatic Opaque Theatre lol, how old are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3944917&forum_id=2#35825703) |