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Californiamos: do you ever feel you are paying too much taxes?
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market You see your gross income and then you see you net income? Do you ever get irate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852148) |
Date: April 16th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Boyish kitchen karate Yeah, of course, but it's like this in most states with jobs. Some cities have local income taxes, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852161) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: bull headed vengeful community account brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852179) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852163) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: big theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852175) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: milky spectacular national security agency philosopher-king Positive they never feel this way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852191) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: Claret theater stage I do, but then I think of all the good things the CA government is doing with my tax money and then I'm reassured (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852202) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:30 AM Author: kink-friendly soul-stirring business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857101) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: canary autistic school cafeteria marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857116) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: milky spectacular national security agency philosopher-king As long as the tax money is going towards shelters and programs to assist immigrant sanctuary, they can raise them even more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852223) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:54 AM Author: hot charismatic rehab gaping Cr it should also go to manatory white privilege training for white people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892148) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich Of course they do, that's why anyone with any money tries to weasel out of them.
Remember when noted shitlib EPAH was on here asking about setting up residence in a different western state to avoid all the state income taxes? Even shitlibs don't wanna pay for the shit they're selling. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Claret theater stage Very odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852244) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich I'm all for anyone paying as little in taxes as possible -- so in a vacuum I don't have a problem with him wanting to keep more of what he earned, but I have no respect for anyone who advocates for higher taxes and more programs but then tries to weasel out of those very taxes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852269) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Claret theater stage So basically you’re saying you don’t respect any libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852280) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich I mean I could in theory.
As an example, Jimmy Kimmel makes what, $10M per year?
If he came out and said "healthcare for kids is so important to me that I'm donating 90% of my salary to a vehicle that aims to provide universal insurance for kids who don't have it and I'm encouraging all of my Hollywood friends to do the same", I'd at least have some respect for that. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Lavender beady-eyed factory reset button or, alternatively, someone like zuckerberg could give more than all hollywood actors combined and it wouldn't dent his net worth. instead he spends $ setting up coding bootcamps in Africa so that GC can eventually outsource jobs there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852342) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:32 AM Author: Stirring famous landscape painting boiling water anti-semite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857105) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Lavender beady-eyed factory reset button tbf, that was just so he could brag about his income. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852306) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: comical fishy hospital Only tolerate it because of how much household income we can pull in. As soon as we decide to slow down / become more “work optional” I want to GTFO because of taxes and libs.
The really bad ones: - Cap gains taxed as ordinary income - Sales tax - Property tax (rate isnt bad, but property values are so high) - Car purchases, you pay tax on the sale amount, not difference (new car - old car value). Psycologically, it gets me to keep a car 1-2yrs longer than I would elsewhere. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Claret theater stage No issue with the state income tax? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852268) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: comical fishy hospital Not thrilled with it, but I could accept it if I wasn’t fleeced with all the other taxes. I’m fine paying extra to preserve some of the great things that exist here. However, I’m not fine paying for financial mismanagement, illegals, rigged state employee pension funds, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852283) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: Lavender beady-eyed factory reset button protip: you just listed the "great things that exist here" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852319) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: Claret theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852431) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Histrionic cruel-hearted garrison codepig What great things exist in CA that don't exist elsewhere? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852522) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Claret theater stage Syringes in San Fran (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852535) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Boyish kitchen karate Access to varied nature is pretty big. In norcal you're within hours of a lot of bucket-list-type places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852548) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: Claret theater stage Gets old after a bit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852580) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Histrionic cruel-hearted garrison codepig LOL i think you've used this "bucket-list" type places thing before
If something is on my bucket list, WGAF about getting on a plane to see it? It's 6 hours from NYC versus 3 in traffic from SF.
And whose bucket list has Heavenly or Kirkwood on it? Are you talking about Yosemite? |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Boyish kitchen karate Bro, it's way more than Yosemite. And that flight from NYC lands at SFO and then you have the same traffic issues as had you started here.
Yosemite Sequoia / Kings Canyon Lake Tahoe (whether skiing or the lake/area itself) Redwoods Big Sur Monterey / Carmel / Pebble Beach Napa & Sonoma Mendocino SF itself Central Coast - SLO, Paso, Hearst Castle, etc. Santa Cruz Lost Coast if you're not fat |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Claret theater stage Great things do do once or twice, but not worth having to be raped in taxes for these (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852808) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: comical fishy hospital All this. I'm a 15 minute drive down 92 to the beach whenever I want to go. Shit like that is nice to have and I'm ok with paying a certain level of tax to ensure it's cared for and remains accessible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853084) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Histrionic cruel-hearted garrison codepig You mean going to half moon bay? Isn't it cold as fuck and only really worth it if you are a pro level surfer going to mavericks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853241) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Boyish kitchen karate Probably HMB and the other beaches along the coast south from there. The water is cold but the weather is often nice enough to chill on the beach with kids and have a bbq. It's 45-60 mins away for me so longer than ideal. They're typically not that busy (except for holiday weekends) since they're a bit of a haul from SF and most of SV.
Santa Cruz is also 45-60 mins away and awesome, especially with kids. Boardwalk / amusement park, beach, and beach town. It's a world away. The only drag can be the traffic on the way back, but at most it adds 30 mins. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:53 PM Author: comical fishy hospital It's not a tropical beach, but it's completely acceptable to take kids down to for tide pools + setting up your beach 1/2 tent and chilling out for the day under. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853339) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Fragrant boistinker trump supporter That last one is $cam & fraud.
I've held on to cars longer just to avoid the tax as well. I wonder how many transactions don't occur due to this BS. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: comical fishy hospital Precisely - for someone who likes cars, if I didn't have to pay the ~10% tax on the full sale price, I'd probably flip my cars every 36 months or so. When I lived in other states, I could either:
a.) sell my car private party and if I bought a new (dealer or private) car w/in a certain time period credit that against the purchase price.
b.) bring the buyer of my car to the dealer, and do an "in and out" where I technically trade in the car, get the credit, then they sell it to the buyer at our agreed upon price.
It's not even about whether I can afford the extra tax CA applies, it's just mentally it pisses me off and thus I'm keeping cars 48-60 months now. I'm sure it hurts dealership sales volumes, and at minimum encourages people to buy private party because the seller can give you paperwork that says you paid a lot less than you really did. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853208) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop The government at all levels constantly is trying to take money from you. In my neighborhood (planned development), the city instituted a "property transfer fee" on home sales. There is an ongoing lawsuit on this issue. It is just insane that people tolerate it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852516) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: marvelous therapy >Cap gains taxed as ordinary income
This is good though. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 1:01 AM Author: hot charismatic rehab gaping (No coiner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892196) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: cerebral harsh native It's all I've ever known. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852357) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852398) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop All the time. I just moved here in the last year from Austin and think of moving back every day. It is just an enormous rip off. I want to move to a state with no state income tax sometime in the next year or two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852481) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:27 PM Author: Claret theater stage Whch state ideally? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852510) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop Ideally I would be living in Jackson Hole. Realistically probably Nashville - that is what my wife wants. She is also open to Austin or Tampa. I would move to the DFW area, but that is a tougher sell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852551) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Appetizing scarlet knife azn Thoughts on Houston? More jobs there than ATX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852743) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop Weather is a nightmare, it is overrun with minorities, and it is a sprawling, ugly city. Wouldn't be my first choice in Texas, although I would consider living in the Woodlands area there or somewhere in the Inner Loop area if I was single.
You are right - there are way more professional (non tech) jobs there. |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 2:07 AM Author: Gay pistol you also chose to live in one of the worst parts of CA against everyone's advice you dumb shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857180) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Histrionic cruel-hearted garrison codepig I grew up in a really high tax east coast area, so it doesn't seem shocking to me, but I can't imagine how someone from Texas could deal with moving to CA or NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852547) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop I feel like I am being raped on a daily basis and practically everyone I meet tells me they wish they could move to Texas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852564) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market Then move (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852619) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop I intend to. The only reason we moved here is because of my wife's job (which she already quit). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852637) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: Thriller Shimmering Pisswyrm Theater How about not being surrounded by redneck proles
Having more food options than burgers and Mexican
No humidity
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop Austin, Dallas, and Houston have tons of great food besides burgers and Tex Mex. A typical UMC is not surrounded by rednecks either.
The weather does blow though. California couldn't get away with its tax system if the weather wasn't so damn nice here. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Histrionic cruel-hearted garrison codepig LOL brother plenty of illegals in socal and bay area. Not sure this is the distinction I'd try to draw with Texas.
Austin and Dallas aren't humid.
Food options outside of wine country is no better than TX IMO. It's certainly not on NYC level. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop Austin is humid as fuck - I used to live there. But CR for the rest.
Austin has great food and Houston is one of the best food cities in the country.
https://www.gq.com/story/david-chang-houston-food-city |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: Razzmatazz Flesh Stain what makes me MAF isn't the high taxes. I could pay Swedish-style taxes if I got Swedish-style services. what makes me MAF is that we pay Sweden taxes and get Burundi-level services.
we have trash, underfunded public schools. cops can't do shit to keep streets clean. terrible roads. just libs need to be gassed for this crime. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Exhilarant menage dog poop I would still be MAF, but that adds to my annoyance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852707) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: duck-like public bath hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852715) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Chestnut Violent Potus This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853312) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: smoky chapel The state taxes dont make me as mad as prop 13 and prop 55 which extended a so-called temporary hike of 1% tax hike through basically forever and was sold as keeping the status quo. This state wouldn’t be perpetually underfunded and constantly looking to the rich to make up the money that should be coming from property taxes but isn’t due to prop 13. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852953) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich prop 13 is a great example of how careful you need to be when giving some group a gov't benefit.
it would seem to be nearly impossible to reverse that at this point without forcing millions of people out of their homes. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: smoky chapel Prop 13 applies to commercial properties as well and indeed commercial properties reap most of the tax savings. You can reform that part of prop 13 without forcing old people out of their homes. It is insane how they haven’t gotten rid of that loophole and won’t touch it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853049) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich I can't opine as to what that would do to the real estate market there.
Are most commercial tenants party to triple-net leases where they pay the pro rata share of the RE taxes? that may effect a lot of small business owners.
Again, not saying it shouldn't be done, just that it becomes hard to unwind this benefit. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: brindle ungodly milk CR. howard jarvis was a fraudlies peddler who hoodwinked stupid people into thinking they were doing something good for seniors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853272) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: comical fishy hospital Prop 13 is pretty terrible in the sense that it doesn't just cover your primary residence. It essentially encourages buy / hold+rent, which is what we've done. Why? Because our property tax expense is locked roughly at the original purchase price, which is a fraction of the current market value. As a result, we get rents that are roughly in-line with the current market value; so there is kind of a natural tax advantaged spread that happens over time as the property value increases.
Now, CA can go fuck themselves if they uncap Prop 13 on primary residences and don't reduce the income tax rate. People will mass exodus out of here if that happens and employers will hie to furthest low tax state rather than meet new salary demands. |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853221) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: smoky chapel I’m fine with getting rid of prop 13 for primary residences even. Real estate values are super high due to lack of supply and I want property values to come down. you’re paying 3-4% on a much lower market value that’s reassessed annually so it’s not that bad.
The main problem is making sure the revenue actually is used to fund schools and local parks and whatever rather than being used to fund pensions and a stupid high speed train to nowhere. |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: Stirring famous landscape painting boiling water nah. employers will stay put. you cannot replicate SV anywhere else. the olds will have to leave which they should. fuck em. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857118) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:51 AM Author: Out-of-control Den prop 13 and prop 58 (which is what i assume you meant) is complete bullshit that fucks up the entire state budget. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892131) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 1:00 AM Author: Out-of-control Den also that it applies to commercial properties is ridiculous. at least it's capped at $1M (of assessed value though, lol). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892189) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Ruddy razzle sanctuary Lol @ calicucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35852991) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: azure legend casino Out of 100 illegals in California, how many pay for their healthcare? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853028) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 3:29 AM Author: chartreuse bat shit crazy hissy fit ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857267) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Appetizing scarlet knife azn 0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35894764) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Mind-boggling Trailer Park yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853057) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: unholy dilemma twinkling uncleanness I love looking at my tax return, then walking a few blocks, looking outside, and viewing hordes of homeless in what would otherwise be a nice public place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853248) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market You live in Santa Ana, Anaheim, Los Angeles? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853291) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 10:09 PM Author: unholy dilemma twinkling uncleanness Santa Monica (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35855646) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Sadistic sandwich Now imagine how you will feel when you sign your big contract in free agency! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853295) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 5:35 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35853661) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 1:22 AM Author: Drab costumed dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35857078) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Chestnut Violent Potus The tax rate would be fine if they used it on environmental stuff (rather than global warming mumbo jumbo) and on massive police forces to kick the bums and the other criminals out. (Rather than da skoolz)
Also not taxing capital gains at ordinary rates. |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Awkward mischievous market Lolwut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35858607) |
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Date: April 17th, 2018 12:06 AM Author: Awkward mischievous market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35856737) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 12:53 AM Author: Out-of-control Den tbf, in SoCal, the beach is 20-30 minutes away and the weather is basically perfect year-round. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35892143) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Awkward mischievous market So its worth it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35894714) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Aromatic sound barrier It definitely sucks. However, any time I travel domestically I realize how shitty the rest of the country is by comparison and then it makes sense. There are only a couple of places that rival it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895004) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Ruddy razzle sanctuary Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895011) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Aromatic sound barrier Tbf I live in a nice area in so cal without homeless people. I could see how others would have a different experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3950775&forum_id=2#35895023) |