- large expansive backyard

- location on a hill

- hardwood (or laminate) flooring downstairs is a must

- recessed lighting

- double pane windows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868171)

Lots of glass and light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868191)

-big windows

-florida rooms

-in ground pools

-finished basements

-kitchen islands with lots of storage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868193)

- tons of light

- 12+ ft ceilings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868214)

modern design - clean simple lines, sharp edges

(waits for ironside to show up and flip out)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868216)

the trend of scrapping them is essentially a way of selling people something for the same price but with less square footage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35874463)

There are some key manufacturing cut offs (plumbing like lead v. Galvanized v. Brass v. Copper — and later PVC and knob and tube electric) but they are all loose dates and have exceptions on either side and a lot of it is moot because it got updated at some point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35875738)

i generally prefer pre-war homes, but my favorites were almost always built in the 20s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35875743)

This guy turned out to be somewhat of an amateur historian of local residential construction (my city is noteworthy in this regard), and according to him, the highest quality homes in my city were built during the great depression because (1) there was one large developer that stayed in business continually during this period; (2) most the poor workers were let go, leaving a workforce comprised of high quality workers; and (3) they built homes at a much slower rate during the Great Depression.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35875969)

major errands within walking distance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868299)

Not too big..around 2k sq feet

A few acres of land

Hardwood floors or stone floors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868327)

no separate guest house bullshit, they can stay in my bed or get hotels, basically.

able to see the ocean or a large lake, or prestigious river.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868342)

2) Great Room

3) Two-level main entrance with staircase

4) Granite countertops

5) Movie room

6) Wine bar in basement

7) HUGE bathtub.

8) Turrets

9) Intricate roofline

yum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868358)

And I could go with a nice tower or two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873308)

Oh yeah In N Out 2 blocks away lol. Nuff said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868381)

* in a 60%+ black/brown neighborhood

* needs all mechanicals plumbing and roof replaced

* no parking

* 50-minute subway commute from work in decrepit cattle cars packed with smelly minorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868390)

Eg http://solemionash.com/open-tread-staircase/timber-frame-stairs-staircase-modern-with-wooden-wall-sconces-open-tread-staircase/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868395)

2. one open room - kitchen and family room - because it's practical with kids, and otherwise separate living and dining rooms - I hate staring at clutter

3. split master and kids' rooms - our master is upstairs and other bedrooms are downstairs, which is awesome on balance

4. en suite bathroom for the master - those old houses with 1 bathroom upstairs surrounded by 3-4 bedrooms suck

5. private backyard

6. walkable to at least some restaurants and bars and a park and school

7. walk-in closet(s) in the master - it's TTT having piles of your wife's clothes all over or spread out among 3 bedrooms because the closets are too small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868452)

Driveway ends in circle

Interesting textures on facade/roof (hamptons style shingling, stone facade, etc.)

Stone chimney (but gas fireplace)

Rift sawn flooring

Mud room area/way to access not through the main door if you are a mess

Water/mountain views

Huge windows

Outdoor entertainment area that is coverable by awnings

Double height living room/entertaining area

Heated floors in bathrooms/bedrooms/floors below ground level

Formal dining area

Auto shades/whole house music system; shades built into wall/not visible in window

Double dishwashers and ovens

Solid wood doors (no fucking Masonite or hollow wood) with high-end hardware

His and hers walk ins in master BR

Soaking tub and shower with built-in rain shower

At least one cedar closet

Hidden fridge doors

Concealed mini fridge in master bedroom

Built in safe

Built in make up area for wife in master bedroom so her shit isn't in my way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868476)

Transitional spaces so you don't just open a die and are in a room

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868640)

*it explodes immediately*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868674)

2. use of natural high quality materials

3. design detail

4. distinct separation of spaces

5. formal living and dining rooms

6. wood-paneled library off of either formal living or dining space

7. stone backyard patio (as opposed to a deck)

8. large stand up shower (as opposed to bathtub shower) in master bedroom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35868977)

stepping over a 3-foot high slippery wall is dumb dumb dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35869031)

Open kitchen and family room with family room opening up to backyard for outdoor and indoor entertaining.

Crittal windows and doors, exposed beam ceilings for living room and master bedroom and large center kitchen island with contrasting white shaker cabinets and dark gray cabinets for the island. Wide plank oak floors in a brown grayish color.

I don’t want a formal dining room or a living room in the front of the house that goes completely unused.

Master bath has separate tub and shower. his and her walk-in closets.

This house has most of the interior look I want though not the exterior:

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/1007-Wellesley-Ave-90049/home/6760613

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35869683)

Now this won’t be an issue for most people as most homes do not have 2 living rooms, at least not in the cities we are talking where these properties are running $5-6m. Obviously when people come over to my house now, they only hang out in the only living room that exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35875912)

a living room can be thought of as a reception room -- where you receive guests -- vs a family room, which is for more casual day-to-day use by the occupants. it's akin to the old parlour. it's also used to display art, fine furniture, etc.

technically you shouldn't have company in your family room -- rather you'd receive them in your living room, dine in your dining room (or outside say on a patio) and perhaps the men would retire to the library/office for a drink or smoke.

you only wouldn't use the living room if you're not having people over frequently.

your family room would really serve the function of a media room, play room (unless you had a separate one), etc. the family room is more akin to a 2nd or "inner" parlour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35875938)

A well designed LR/FR can serve both purposes equally well without any significant compromises. It is difficult for me to imagine characteristics of a room that I would find preferable for entertaining that are not also desirable for when I am chilling with my family.

Insisting on a separate LR and FR is elevating form over function, at least given my preferences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876069)

if anything, the front living room doesn’t have a tv sometimes which makes it even less practical as an entertaining space because so many gatherings revolve around watching sports. The family room looks exactly like the living room.

Every dinner party I go to tends to revolve around the kitchen before having dinner where people can chat and drink/eat apps while the hosts prepare dinner, and the kids play either outside or in the family room right there, so it’d be weird to be the front formal living room and not interact with the hosts and not be close to the food.

With the link of the house I had above, I can guarantee whoever buys it is going to have parties only in the back of the house by the kitchen and family room. The front living room is basically just a waste of space for show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876314)

Anyone who furnishes a LR and FR identically is a fucking moron and has no idea what she's doing. Not that that's surprising -- most people have no clue how to furnish a house, and just buy up the latest GC trends.

If you're watching TV with people you'd do it in the FR, or alternatively downstairs in a playroom/rumpus room with pool table, etc. Gatherings for watching TV should be few and far between.

Hanging out in the Kitchen while hosts cook is such a horrible trend. I'd never dream of doing such a thing. I LOATHE going to parties where everyone congregates in the fucking Kitchen while someone spends their time cooking. Anyone who has a party like that is doing it completely wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876346)

I acknowledge that LRs and FRs traditionally furnished different. What functional differences would there be in how you would furnish a LR and FR?

To me, it is every bit as important that my FR is furnished in a manner that is conducive to conversation among several people as it is to furnish a LR in such a manner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876379)

My FR would of course have a TV. it would have things like a large sectional couch, a less ornate fireplace, a warmer ottoman as opposed to an ornate coffee table, etc.

LR would contain finer furniture and art/collectibles. it would be meant as a room where you'd talk with your guests. it would have a more formal fireplace and no electronics. the detail would be more ornate as it would be guest-facing as opposed to family-facing, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876396)

And with the non-boomer, younger set, every time people get together these days, the tv’s on, there are a bunch of kids running around and people are eating Tostitos from the bag around the kitchen island or if you’re fancier, it’s served in a bowl at least. Nobody has fine art or antiques lying around because kids would break them. What you describe is literally a time capsule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35876693)

True I like fake tits, but I also like women to dress very high maintenance, not like Tampa strippers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35877474)

https://www.redfin.com/NJ/Bridgewater/1002-Sunset-Rdg-08807/home/37786265

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873478)

https://files.catbox.moe/3f22wr.jpeg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35870390)

Yeah, it's not gonna be a Victorian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873219)

Define "good schools". Like top 10 in the state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873294)

no minorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873304)

The likelihood of finding a low tax, large move-in ready victorian home in their price range, which i believe is roughly $700k, is basically zero. Especially if they want to be in close proximity to a downtown with good restaurants.

For example, in chatham, which has a very highly rated school district, a train station and a few restaurants, $700k gets you a 3 bed 2 bath cape with a small yard.

Next door, in Madison, you have very good but not quite as good schools, slightly further train ride, better downtown and maybe you can get slightly more house for $700k though still something that no one will be impressed by.

Go 1 more town over in Morristown/Morris Township/Morris Plains, it's now about an hour or so ride to MFH, decent but "diverse" schools, robust downtown with restaurants and bar (though nothing walking distance in their price range). They could get a relatively large house in this area which would be a short ride to the downtown.

Randolph, very good schools, no downtown, high taxes, far train ride. They can get a larger home in this town for $700k.

If we go down the other train lines, it's a similar story. Millburn, Summit, New Providence, Westfield etc.

I'm very curious as to where they are looking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873417)

Lots of fridge space to store snacks

Good internet service

That's about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873347)

Original features

Leaded glass

Nice kitchen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35873356)

Also, a golf simulator room.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3952958&forum_id=2#35874488)