The Starbucks arrests shouldn't be trivialized.
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Date: April 19th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: wonderful bright shrine
These guys came in the Starbucks, they asked to use the bathroom, which they were denied bc they weren't paying customers (this is a common restriction). They then waited at a table to meet a friend without buying something. Why was this worthy of summoning the police?
Additionally, after the men were arrested (for doing nothing), they were detained for 8 hours. The law enforcement even called for back up. This was for a few men, sitting at a coffee table. Treated a certain way by store employees and then by police.
Would it have happened if they were three blonde white girls? Hmmm.
My thing is, conservatives should and could step in here and make the most potent argument we have against bias or racism: it is completely illogical to judge someone based simply on their skin color. It doesn't make any rational sense - full stop. It's a meaningless biological attribute that has nothing to do with who a person is or how they behave.
Seems to me this whole kerfuffle could have been easily avoided. Starbucks is correct to point this out and make an action towards resolving it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873057) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: bistre fragrant brunch rigpig
They were give SEVERAL chances to leave without any escalation and they still refused. They could have just left and held their meeting elsewhere or bought a small drink initially. The police shouldn't have been called, but this is a perfect example of blacks being blacks.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/men-arrested-starbucks-were-business-meeting-hoping-change-114103068--abc-news-topstories.html
But Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross Jr. said in a video testimonial released Saturday that his officers "did absolutely nothing wrong."
"I can tell you candidly these officers did a service they were called to do," Ross said.
The police commissioner also accused the men of being disrespectful to the officers and said that both were given several chances to leave, but they refused.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873991) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 9:52 AM Author: Shivering business firm
the story they're telling on all the morning shows this morning is that they entered the store at 4:35 and the cops were called at 4:37.
if true, the debate is over and "Holly" should get all the scorn she deserves.
if false, they should get the same level of scorn.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873302) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Shivering business firm
https://www.starbucks.com/about-us/company-information
"It’s not unusual to see people coming to Starbucks to chat, meet up or even work. We’re a neighborhood gathering place, a part of the daily routine – and we couldn’t be happier about it. Get to know us and you’ll see: we are so much more than what we brew.
We make sure everything we do is through the lens of humanity – from our commitment to the highest quality coffee in the world, to the way we engage with our customers and communities to do business responsibly."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35874084) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: Stirring insanely creepy set
"My thing is, conservatives should and could step in here and make the most potent argument we have against bias or racism: it is completely illogical to judge someone based simply on their skin color. It doesn't make any rational sense - full stop. It's a meaningless biological attribute that has nothing to do with who a person is or how they behave."
your thing is a lie?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873375) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: Indecent genital piercing
Liberal so badly need racism to exist that any instance, no matter how trivial, it’s going to be blown up to epic proportions to try to justify their beliefs.
What seems to be lost here is that this is already illegal, and that these two guys are gonna have a pretty decent title 7 suit against this coffee shop.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873394) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 10:23 AM Author: Crimson exciting becky
*sets forth false premise*
*demands serious replies*
hmmmmmm?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873464) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 10:33 AM Author: spectacular fat ankles
"My thing is, conservatives should and could step in here and make the most potent argument we have against bias or racism: it is completely illogical to judge someone based simply on their skin color. It doesn't make any rational sense - full stop. It's a meaningless biological attribute that has nothing to do with who a person is or how they behave."
Here's my question: If you're a guy (of any race), then you've had the experience of women being afraid of you at night in a parking lot or whatever, for no other reason than you being a guy. People also trust you less with children. This has nothing to do with you individually, it's solely because men commit a vastly disproportionate amount of rape and child molestation.
This doesn't really bother me and I would never call out a woman for her alleged bigotry over these beliefs. She's making a rational calculation based on who commits crime.
This is also completely accepted by libs and something that men "just have to understand': (e.g. https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/the-reality-that-all-women-experience-that-men-dont-know-about-kelly-jrmk/ & http://www.pbs.org/kued/nosafeplace/articles/nightmare.html )
Okay, so why is it so crazy to apply this logic to a racial subgroup that commits a vastly disproportionate amount of violent crime? It's the exact same thing, but in the case of gender libs say men have to understand wyh women do it. In the race of race, libs say that it's Totally Not Okay. Why?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873548) |
Date: April 19th, 2018 10:34 AM Author: Contagious Red Pit
the whole thing was really obviously a setup. they come in, sit down and don't order anything while saying they're there for a "business meeting" (?), then when asked politely to buy something or leave, they flatly refuse and continue to strangely keep sitting there. then when the cops are called, they peacefully let them handcuff them and escort them out, instead of just apologizing and leaving (???)
the fact that people can't recognize this as an obvious deliberate setup is a testament to how clueless regular people are
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873560) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 10:40 AM Author: talented anal space
Here's the thing, I don't think any employee spoke to them or asked them why they were there. Basically it was
1) black bros come in and sit down
2) black bro asks to use the bathroom
3) chick says its for customers only
4) black bro "oh ok" and sits down
5) cops come
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873627)
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Date: April 19th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: wonderful bright shrine
The logical argument being that judging people based off of skin color alone is not only stupid but immoral. It tells you absolutely nothing about the person. Do you dispute this? And then an internalized bias can lead to unfair situations like this. Did these men deserve to be arrested and detained for waiting for a friend in a shop without buying coffee?
These two black men were simply engaging in similar behavior as countless others every single day, they were picked out and then deemed to be threatening because...why?
Have you ever been asked to leave a Starbucks for not buying or had the cops called as a white person? This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
Also, I don't think you'd even qualify for debate at a highschool level against someone like David Hogg. Bitch.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3953648&forum_id=2#35873741)
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