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CSLG- Im gonna go solo plaintiff but patent lit- credited?
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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:07 PM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885475) |
Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM Author: charismatic doobsian electric furnace I thought patent litigation was dying *and* it's particularly bad for small firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885484) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM Author: cruel-hearted fanboi Have fun filing for bankruptcy within four months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885485) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman I have an infinite source of small cases but no bankroll- is that how cslg started out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885507) |
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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:26 PM Author: Swashbuckling institution immigrant No clue but I imagine it will be very difficult to find clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885550) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman i have many clients. the big issue will be getting big companies to settle with a small firm. they will think i don't have the resources to take it the distance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887366) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Vermilion Legend Theater Stage We might be able to help each other. Do you have a throwaway email? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887381) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:00 AM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887410) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:04 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Vermilion Legend Theater Stage Got it, thx. Will email later today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887424) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:23 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Vermilion Legend Theater Stage email sent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887697) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:31 AM Author: stubborn sound barrier lol....back when I was a patent agent for an IP boutique (almost all patent pros), I met with some of these "small clients"...smh...fucking nutters think they are gonna get rich with their fucking "genius idea"... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887721) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:57 PM Author: rusted mental disorder describe the types of weirdos that go into patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701588) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM Author: irradiated garrison DBG, for one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701777) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701778) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:40 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Vermilion Legend Theater Stage Hey man check your throwaway gmail (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37609647) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:59 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch OP: update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701601) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:02 PM Author: rusted mental disorder isn't patent law dead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701611) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:03 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch no, it's not "dead"
patent law has been around for 200 years and isnt going anywhere.
can you no longer get a job at quinn working 3000 hours? probably. who cares. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:04 PM Author: rusted mental disorder http://www.managingip.com/Article/3852234/2018-US-patent-cases-down-41-from-2015-PTAB-filing-lowest-since-2014.html
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:06 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch yes, it was insane for a few yrs. patent law will always be around and profitable. the fact that you (kinda) need a stem degree makes it fairly exclusive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701638) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:10 PM Author: rusted mental disorder don't you only need the stem degree if you actually write the patents, which a lot of big firms are dropping as a practice? litigation doesn't really require it unless there's an IPR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701659) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:16 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch patent lit doesn't REQUIRE a stem degree, but it's highly preferred for a variety of reasons: clients want the lawyers on their matters to have the degree, partners with stem degrees want the associates to have the degree, stem guys are more likely to "get" the technology and the issues.
also, some parts of patent lit -- coming up with the (non)infringement and (in)validity arguments, claim construction, expert reports -- can be highly technical and require a stem aspie to get the issues right.
of course, there are non-stem guys who have success in patent lit. they have to be smart and interested in science/tech, though. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:18 PM Author: rusted mental disorder what are the best and worst stem degrees to have? 10 years ago Electrical Engineering was all the rage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701694) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:20 PM Author: Black razzle sweet tailpipe round eye Depends on case
Still EE/CS if I had to pick |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:23 PM Author: rusted mental disorder aren't CS types too aspie to actually make partner though? or argue in court for that matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701736) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch it's self-selecting. stem dorks who choose to go to law school... and then choose to do patent lit, as opposed to sit in an office writing patents all day, are going to be less aspie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701756) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:31 PM Author: rusted mental disorder which I guess ties back to your original comment, that there are few people that do it, because like 1% of these types are non aspie.
still, if my practice area shrank 40% in a few years that would be highly unnerving. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch let's put it this way, most biglawyers are aspie, period. the stem degree guys who go into patent lit are probably, on average, just as aspie as your non-patent commercial biglaw litigator. or maybe the patent litigators are slightly more aspie.
the patent bubble coming down is just bad for equity partners. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM Author: Black razzle sweet tailpipe round eye No one is making partner these days because there's a glut of underutilized partners who came up during the patent lit explosion. Being an associate in patent lit now like being a securities associate 6 years ago after all the financial crisis and recession litigations started winding down. They're fucked.
But plenty of aspies made it 10 years ago - just needed to grind out hours and handle the technical aspects of cases. Boomers can parachute in and handle important oral argument. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM Author: Insecure Shrine Dbg is FUCKED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701801) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM Author: irradiated garrison Technically, DBG is of counsel. But yeah tomato tomato (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701811) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:37 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch but nobody's making partner in biglaw, period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701813) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:39 PM Author: rusted mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701825) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman i did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701846) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM Author: rusted mental disorder although firms these days are pretty willing to get rid of partners without business or with low hours.
honestly, "making partner" isn't what it used to be period. depends on the firm. but there are lots of firms where "of counsel" is a lot safer than "partner" at some firms. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM Author: Black razzle sweet tailpipe round eye I don't disagree. My firm fires the vast majority of non-equity partners it makes within 4 or so years of promotion.
Edit: and it isn't a K&E situation, these are people who made "partner" after 8+ years. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:46 PM Author: rusted mental disorder that's pretty much the norm these days. boomers have created such a fucking fraud system. up or out has only benefited them. but I wonder what will happen when the boomers retire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701860) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM Author: Outnumbered Black Woman that sounds terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701861) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:24 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch anyone with any stem UG degree is smart enough to do any kind of patent lit.
nobody actually "uses their degree"; that part is mostly flame. the idea that you need a phd in that exact discipline to do a specific type of patent lit cases is lulzy.
that being said, clients and/or partners often want specific degrees for resume and marketing purposes. it's not necessary for the work, though.
the same stem degrees will always be good to have for patent lit -- EE/CS, mechE, chemE, bio/chem/bme.
the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:25 PM Author: rusted mental disorder "the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc"
I don't even know what "IE" or "OR" are (I'm not STEM), but I do know what the others are. So I guess that explains why those ones suck. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:27 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch industrial engineering, operations research, etc.
those are degrees that people who are too dumb to do a real engineering -- and cant handle the coursework -- get. |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM Author: Insecure Shrine Is Irell still a good shop? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701755) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701774) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM Author: Insecure Shrine Is Morgan Chu still the most prestigious ip lawyer in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701780) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch he's probably cooling down a bit in his old age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701790) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM Author: irradiated garrison Probably still a gigantic asshole though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701800) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:38 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch lol at this douchey statement: "Morgan was co-managing partner of the firm for a maximum two terms from 1997 to 2003 and has been a member of its Executive Committee since 1985. He is presently chair of the Litigation group."
https://www.irell.com/lawyers-morgan-chu
who fucking cares what the maximum term is? im sure he could have changed the rules. does anyone care why he didnt serve more than 6 years as co-MP, whether it was bc he was termed out or not? |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:40 PM Author: irradiated garrison He has a tiny Asian penis. All the TiVo trolling money in the world won't change that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701830) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM Author: Insecure Shrine His brothers are also arguably more prestigious than him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701834) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM Author: irradiated garrison I vaguely remember that. Remember when he was a user of sexually harassing some chick partner? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701843) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM Author: Black razzle sweet tailpipe round eye Ironically he's a massive shitlib who donates tons of money to people who probably think an accusation should be career ending. He's lucky it came out when it did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701862) |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch rofl their grandpa was a southern baptist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shu-tien_Li |
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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM Author: hairraiser awkward crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701836) |