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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Odious insane chapel
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disrespectful pistol
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
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rusted vigorous reading party
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Odious insane chapel
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
obsidian galvanic friendly grandma field
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Odious insane chapel
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
trip fishy lodge really tough guy
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Odious insane chapel
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Odious insane chapel
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no idea but FUCK KIKES
talented cream weed whacker
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
passionate puce background story wrinkle
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Internet-worthy Diverse Site Black Woman
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
Scarlet Racy Pocket Flask People Who Are Hurt
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
shivering cerebral location voyeur
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
razzle office
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Odious insane chapel
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Wine Boyish Blood Rage Azn
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Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
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Lake university
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Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
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Domesticated stimulating state
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my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
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  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
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magical library
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interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
tantric turquoise goal in life shrine
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it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Snowy Church Building Sweet Tailpipe
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
Bossy Orchestra Pit
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
stubborn charismatic community account national
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For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: disrespectful pistol



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Flatulent affirmative action

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: rusted vigorous reading party



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: obsidian galvanic friendly grandma field

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: trip fishy lodge really tough guy

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: talented cream weed whacker

no idea but FUCK KIKES

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: passionate puce background story wrinkle

Owning a home is risky.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Diverse Site Black Woman

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Scarlet Racy Pocket Flask People Who Are Hurt

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: shivering cerebral location voyeur

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: razzle office

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Odious insane chapel

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Wine Boyish Blood Rage Azn

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Wine Boyish Blood Rage Azn

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: Lake university



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: tantric turquoise goal in life shrine

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Domesticated stimulating state



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Diverse Site Black Woman

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Cobalt property

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: magical library

cr

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: tantric turquoise goal in life shrine

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Snowy Church Building Sweet Tailpipe

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Bossy Orchestra Pit

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: stubborn charismatic community account national

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Misunderstood feces school

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Irradiated arrogant preventive strike organic girlfriend

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)