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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
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tantric sound barrier
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
Red space
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slimy piazza electric furnace
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the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Mustard contagious sandwich
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
charismatic sapphire church building
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How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
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Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
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no idea but FUCK KIKES
shimmering thriller shitlib feces
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
Odious At-the-ready Dilemma
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Fluffy Parlour Halford
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
jade talking water buffalo filthpig
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
Onyx Adventurous Digit Ratio Roast Beef
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Electric stead love of her life
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Comical slippery giraffe
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
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violent glittery whorehouse
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Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
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harsh yapping volcanic crater
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my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
Fluffy Parlour Halford
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but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
ebony theater stage pervert
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Marvelous state
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
Gaped useless brakes
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
appetizing famous landscape painting cuckold
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
deranged international law enforcement agency
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
Frum Wrinkle
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
cheese-eating dull business firm
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: tantric sound barrier



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Red space

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: slimy piazza electric furnace



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Mustard contagious sandwich

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: charismatic sapphire church building

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: shimmering thriller shitlib feces

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Odious At-the-ready Dilemma

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Fluffy Parlour Halford

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: jade talking water buffalo filthpig

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Onyx Adventurous Digit Ratio Roast Beef

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Electric stead love of her life

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Flirting Mental Disorder Faggot Firefighter

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Comical slippery giraffe

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Comical slippery giraffe

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: violent glittery whorehouse



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: Gaped useless brakes

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: harsh yapping volcanic crater



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Fluffy Parlour Halford

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: ebony theater stage pervert

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Marvelous state

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Gaped useless brakes

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: appetizing famous landscape painting cuckold

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: deranged international law enforcement agency

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Frum Wrinkle

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: cheese-eating dull business firm

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Cerebral saffron athletic conference

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)