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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
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slap-happy electric location prole
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
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buff stirring brunch
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Pea-brained death wish
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Aromatic Locale
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
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Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing
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no idea but FUCK KIKES
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  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
racy stag film boistinker
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
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  04/22/18
lulzy observation
trip gas station
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
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  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Yellow angry new version corner
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Orchid marvelous stage organic girlfriend
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
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Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
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my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
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but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
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mint buck-toothed church
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interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
purple senate weed whacker
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
floppy halford business firm
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
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  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
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  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: slap-happy electric location prole



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Turquoise lascivious degenerate

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: buff stirring brunch



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Pea-brained death wish

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Aromatic Locale

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Excitant box office factory reset button

no idea but FUCK KIKES

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: racy stag film boistinker

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Rose motley son of senegal

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: trip gas station

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: painfully honest primrose pervert puppy

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Yellow angry new version corner

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Dun Charismatic Genital Piercing

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Orchid marvelous stage organic girlfriend

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Orchid marvelous stage organic girlfriend

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: crusty chapel



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: purple senate weed whacker

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Multi-colored Spruce Boiling Water



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Rose motley son of senegal

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: razzle frozen center

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: mint buck-toothed church

cr

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: purple senate weed whacker

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: floppy halford business firm

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Curious pearl market gay wizard

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Bossy Honey-headed Nursing Home Kitty

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: diverse amber casino immigrant

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Scarlet hell keepsake machete

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)