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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
sticky becky
  04/22/18
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sticky becky
  04/22/18
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vigorous psychic
  04/22/18
depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
vivacious scourge upon the earth locale
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big state son of senegal
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
sticky becky
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Glittery wrinkle hairy legs
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
sticky becky
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
transparent bawdyhouse codepig
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
sticky becky
  04/22/18
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sticky becky
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
Indigo orchestra pit roast beef
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
mahogany public bath deer antler
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Outnumbered fiercely-loyal associate
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
Thriller Big-titted Senate
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
Vermilion at-the-ready parlour
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
onyx costumed nowag
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
sticky becky
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
stirring weed whacker new version
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
stirring weed whacker new version
  04/23/18
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swashbuckling zombie-like useless brakes
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
primrose rehab milk
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hairraiser cyan twinkling uncleanness background story
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
Outnumbered fiercely-loyal associate
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
curious windowlicker
  04/23/18
cr
territorial private investor
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
primrose rehab milk
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
geriatric harsh affirmative action site
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
Cruel-hearted mind-boggling giraffe
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
slippery indian lodge shitlib
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
obsidian aggressive cruise ship
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
misunderstood principal's office
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: sticky becky

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: sticky becky



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: vigorous psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895670)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: vivacious scourge upon the earth locale

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: big state son of senegal



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: sticky becky

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Glittery wrinkle hairy legs

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: sticky becky

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: transparent bawdyhouse codepig

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: sticky becky

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: sticky becky



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Indigo orchestra pit roast beef

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: mahogany public bath deer antler

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Outnumbered fiercely-loyal associate

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Thriller Big-titted Senate

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Vermilion at-the-ready parlour

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: onyx costumed nowag

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: sticky becky

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: stirring weed whacker new version

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: stirring weed whacker new version

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: swashbuckling zombie-like useless brakes



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: primrose rehab milk

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: hairraiser cyan twinkling uncleanness background story



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Outnumbered fiercely-loyal associate

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: curious windowlicker

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: territorial private investor

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: primrose rehab milk

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: geriatric harsh affirmative action site

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted mind-boggling giraffe

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: slippery indian lodge shitlib

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: obsidian aggressive cruise ship

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: misunderstood principal's office

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)