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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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Razzle Step-uncle's House
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
Razzle Step-uncle's House
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
Vibrant Dull Locale
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
Razzle Step-uncle's House
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
Vibrant Dull Locale
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
Razzle Step-uncle's House
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
Vibrant Dull Locale
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
Razzle Step-uncle's House
  04/23/18
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shivering masturbator church
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Razzle Step-uncle's House



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Razzle Step-uncle's House

colloquialism*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901686)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Vibrant Dull Locale

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901769)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Razzle Step-uncle's House

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35902474)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Vibrant Dull Locale

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35903071)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Razzle Step-uncle's House

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35903887)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Vibrant Dull Locale

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904430)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: Razzle Step-uncle's House

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: shivering masturbator church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901780)