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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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Submissive bright office people who are hurt
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
Submissive bright office people who are hurt
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
fluffy chestnut prole
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
Submissive bright office people who are hurt
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
fluffy chestnut prole
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
Submissive bright office people who are hurt
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
fluffy chestnut prole
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
Submissive bright office people who are hurt
  04/23/18
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dashing soggy cruise ship hissy fit
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Submissive bright office people who are hurt



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Submissive bright office people who are hurt

colloquialism*

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: fluffy chestnut prole

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Submissive bright office people who are hurt

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: fluffy chestnut prole

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Submissive bright office people who are hurt

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: fluffy chestnut prole

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: Submissive bright office people who are hurt

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: dashing soggy cruise ship hissy fit



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