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Putin would just have poisoned Solzhenitsyn
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:40 AM Author: cobalt doctorate that's how far the world has descended morally since the Cold War. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907142) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Hot Disrespectful French Chef Orchestra Pit This is embarrassing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908856) |
Date: April 24th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: fishy tank hey shitlib, Solzhenitsyn was a russian nationalist and liked Putin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907157) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:46 AM Author: cobalt doctorate i'm saying 'a Solzhenitsyn', you literalist boob (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907160) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:49 AM Author: fishy tank sure thing, dipshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907177) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:51 AM Author: cobalt doctorate think about it, work it through. put on your thinking cap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907184) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:55 AM Author: Bisexual mahogany multi-billionaire community account you got gaped in this asinine thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907199) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Hot Disrespectful French Chef Orchestra Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908855) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908878) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:49 AM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907178) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:51 AM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Why do you think this? So far Putin has only poisoned the clearest of traitors (intelligence officers that defected and passed on secret info). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907183) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:53 AM Author: fishy tank lol @ "traitors"
to whom? the state or the people? |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard This starts to get into a really long philosophical discussion but in general, I think we can agree that intelligence agents that flee the country and spill their secrets to governments that are clearly adversarial would be on the hit list of any government, including the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908819) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: fishy tank pretty sure we didnt polonium snowden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908868) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard I think if we thought we could easily kill him we would. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908874) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:53 PM Author: fishy tank lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910027) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Do you disagree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910178) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: fishy tank you think it’s difficult to have someone killed in Moscow? Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910196) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard When that person is guarded 24/7 by the FSB? Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910203) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:18 PM Author: fishy tank yeah, this guy has airtight security round the clock
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02694/snowden_2694789k.jpg |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard It is sufficient, obviously. If they could kill him or grab and sneak him out they would do it tomorrow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910330) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: fishy tank I’m not sure who’s doing worse ITT, you or the OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910553) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard No u. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910563) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Hot Disrespectful French Chef Orchestra Pit lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908852) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:55 AM Author: Boyish awkward point nowag So you’re saying he would just have him thrown out of a window like Magnitsky’s lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907203) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:00 AM Author: cobalt doctorate is that true? i think a lot of journalists have been killed. i'm not picking on Putin. the moral devolution has been on both sides. it's just interesting that the Cold War acted as a positive force in some ways, in that it caused both sides to engage in a kind of moral one-upmanship battle before the rest of the world, for PR purposes. |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Well, keep in mind that there's a lot of people ordering various hits. I'm talking about the high profile international assassinations involving sending the FSB and killing people. Sure, plenty of oligarchs and mafia or big gov boss types kill plenty of people for all sorts of reasons, including press they don't like. It is still E. Europe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908606) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: saffron circlehead OP means truth to power ppl like anna politkovskaya (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908688) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:56 AM Author: bistre cracking space lol have you actually read Solzhenitsyn? How can you possibly think modern Russia is worse/less moral? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907206) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 8:56 AM Author: Bisexual mahogany multi-billionaire community account but putin is manipulative! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35907207) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908831) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: cobalt doctorate no, it's a more subtle point, which is that both Russia and the US are willing to be PERCEIVED as less moral today.
the gulags were not flaunted. they were able to be concealed. if they could still be reliably concealed, they might very well still exist.
but both the US and RUS are increasingly throwing 'principle' and apologetics to the wind, they are increasingly open about political assassination (US Senator: "We should just KILL Assange" ), and slipshod in their justifications for warmongering, assassination, etc. there has been a drop-off in decorum since the Cold War. |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard No, the point is that there is no equivalent Gulag system housing millions of political prisoners today. Full stop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908884) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: cobalt doctorate no, that's not the point i am making. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908889) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard The point that you're making doesn't work because there's no equivalent national horror for anyone to write about, which in itself shows that the society has advanced.
I agree that the US generally cares less but that's because our conflict actually has zero philosophical basis. There is no "advantages of capitalism vs. communism" to fight as in the days of the USSR, just stupid "we should enhance our global power and dominance" type shit that we don't even bother to make excuses for anymore. But underlying the whole capitalism vs. communism spectacle was the same shit anyway, but our elites no longer have to worry about losing the population to a competing ideology. |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: clear gas station dysfunction there's no system of concentration camps that suck up millions of lives in Russia nowadays .. what exactly would a modern solzhenitsyn write about? modern russia is a thoroughly mediocre country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908646) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Honestly, modern Russia's problems are pretty well known and there are plenty of reporters whining about mundane problems like pensions or the medical system or even corruption or whatever. There's no whistle to be blown. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35908841) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: violet stirring corner wrinkle Unfortunately. Millions need killing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910638) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: violet stirring corner wrinkle And yet Alexei Navalny lives....
The people who get liquidated in Russia get liquidated not for opposition to the regime but for opposition to the wars the empire fights. Politkovskaya died for writing about Chechnya and undermining the war effort. Nemtsov died for writing about Ukraine. That faggot who took a dive out a window last week wrote about Syria. You can write whatever you want about Putin but say one bad thing about the Soviet war fighter and you will die. That is only right and proper. |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Navalny is managed opposition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910320) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: violet stirring corner wrinkle His brother is doing like 10 years in prison. He is not managed. He is a piece of shit though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910369) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Ok, I guess not managed insofar as he is not doing it at the government's request and isn't a secret Putin ally. But everyone knows he has no shot at winning anything or changing anything so harming him is pointless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910538) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: violet stirring corner wrinkle Its a managed democracy. The party of power uses administrative and technological assets to ensure no opposition of any real scale can emerge. Violence is not necessary and quite primitive. Opinion polls, social media, tight control of broadcast press and a 180 narrative beat brute force violence. Killing a Navalny just means youre too dumb to run a proper modern autocracy. When you do it right everyone thinks its a democracy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910606) |
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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: Appetizing very tactful haunted graveyard Sorry, are you talking about Russia or the US? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958237&forum_id=2#35910676) |