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Unpopular opinion: working class whites bring problems on themselves

Honestly, you can't expect the government to "save you&...
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Absolutely. It’s been obvious for a long time that the econo...
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The economy exists to make Americans wealthier, not to allow...
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"The economy exists to make Americans wealthier . . . &...
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IQ is genetic and you can't bootstrap your way into being sm...
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You can bootstrap your way to not doing drugs, not popping o...
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That is true to some degree, but those things aren't what st...
mint legend
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The rate is like 30%.
Vengeful charismatic stage roommate
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It has never been a cause of poverty among the white working...
mint legend
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I think blaming trade policy for skyrocketing out of wedlock...
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Why? The data seems clear on this, there really was a huge c...
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There are plenty of people who grew up in a community going ...
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Okay, whatever pal. In the end people like you will always f...
mint legend
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How do you apply your views to blacks? If so much of the end...
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That's a hard question. I think that affirmative action is p...
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If you don’t believe in free will (and I don’t either) why d...
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By providing people money to live on and improve their stand...
mint legend
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UBI isn't anywhere on the short term horizon. The only remed...
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I oppose affirmative action because it produces harmful econ...
mint legend
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Helping the poor can't be done without cost. Tariffs that en...
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I know, the question is about what is effective and how much...
mint legend
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You aren't accurately portraying the white v. black issue to...
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In terms of policies what I support would help all poor Amer...
mint legend
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Distortions again. Giving people with low IQs government wor...
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Those workers impact the functioning of an institution too g...
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Badly run transportation is different from destroy society. ...
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That was obviously just hyperbole, I said quite clearly that...
mint legend
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If it was just general economic harm then why are you arguin...
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he wrecked you breh
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He conceded to everything in the end but didnt have the dign...
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You are an idiot and should kill yourself
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You're the one being an idiot by throwing a tantrum
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yes, this opinion is [rightfully] unpopular here. it would ...
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why does this apply to whites and not blacks?
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one has agency and the other doesnt
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or, alternatively, you could vote to MAGA
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Thinking this is a prole tell is an actual prole tell.
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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

Honestly, you can't expect the government to "save you", nor should you be surprised corporations ship out jobs to other countries to save money. This is common sense for a profit-making company, simple economics. If you did not try to educate yourself in a higher paying vocational job or try to do the community college to 4 year uni to save $ and get a BA to get access to a higher paying job, whose fault is that? You chose to shit out 5 kids and snort opioids and because the latex factory in your Shreveport suburb shut down you give up on life? Go get paralegal training, go get phlebotomy training. There are options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909572)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: multi-colored charcoal chapel

thread smells like gefilte fish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909772)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Racy well-lubricated incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909816)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: mischievous native

Absolutely. It’s been obvious for a long time that the economy has shifted to brains over brawn, so if you can’t adapt then just drop out quietly and definitely don’t have kids you can’t support. Expecting anybody to keep you artificially employed is ridiculous. The whole point of technology is to eliminate work, not create more of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909642)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: mint legend

The economy exists to make Americans wealthier, not to allow a small elite to become wealthy. I understand your POV, but it's definitely a minority position and non-whites are so clannish that it would be incomprehensible to them. The solution is to fund a UBI and sovereign wealth fund, imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909674)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: bonkers twinkling uncleanness

"The economy exists to make Americans wealthier . . . "

This is wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910621)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Frozen pearly garrison toaster

That's doesn't work so well for people who don't have brains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910017)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: mischievous native

People who don’t have brains should reconsider their current strategy of mindlessly populating the earth then. Until they do that I can’t be arsed to empathize with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910054)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Frozen pearly garrison toaster

"People who don’t have brains should reconsider"

Using what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910110)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Hairless Indian Lodge Sex Offender



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Out-of-control kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35915741)



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Date: November 4th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Navy house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#37159685)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: mint legend

IQ is genetic and you can't bootstrap your way into being smart enough to become a doctor. If you think that countries shouldn't look after their people that's fine, I disagree but at least it makes sense. It does not make sense to blame people for the genetic lottery, which is what most just world stuff like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909658)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

You can bootstrap your way to not doing drugs, not popping out a kid out of wedlock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909668)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: mint legend

That is true to some degree, but those things aren't what stop whites from doing well financially. You aren't starting over at 45, and you aren't dead. That is why people turn to drugs to ease the pain, and it's understandable if tragic. The wedlock thing is an issue for blacks but really for whites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909682)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

The rate is like 30%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909734)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: mint legend

It has never been a cause of poverty among the white working class before, this mostly just reflects the trade shock caused by China joining the WTO. Some of that is also cohabitation, similar to how Iceland has a low marriage rate but most parents are together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909758)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

I think blaming trade policy for skyrocketing out of wedlock birth is even more passing the buck than excuses made by black leaders about structural forces on their constituents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909778)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: mint legend

Why? The data seems clear on this, there really was a huge cost imposed by the trade shock. I don't believe in free will so it's easy for me to accept that structural forces are hurting blacks too, although in their case it's mostly just comically low average IQ. The idea that our choices define us is just nonsense promoted by ideological libertarians that want to defend their religion.

http://nber.org/papers/w21906

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909811)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

There are plenty of people who grew up in a community going through an economic crisis that don't end up as life long deadbeats. The people who did had shitty characters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909850)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: mint legend

Okay, whatever pal. In the end people like you will always find some new reason to justify your belief in ontological individualism. The fact that it is totally detached from reality won't get you to change it because your self-esteem is based on how you see your success. The real truth is that even character traits are genetic and there is no free will at all, trying to blame people is stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909866)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

How do you apply your views to blacks? If so much of the end result was due to heritable traits do you agree blacks are entitled to massive affirmative action in hiring so that they can have a middle class community?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909922)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: mint legend

That's a hard question. I think that affirmative action is pretty harmful so I don't support, but I do think that UBI and a sovereign wealth fund are a good idea to help poor Americans in general. It will become more important as the IQ needed for gainful employment rises due to automation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909932)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: mischievous native

If you don’t believe in free will (and I don’t either) why do you think UBI will remedy social ills? People who are born with low intellects cannot entertain themselves with idealities, only realities. Having a basic income will only make them idle and irritable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909972)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: mint legend

By providing people money to live on and improve their standard of living? What sort of stupid question is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909976)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

UBI isn't anywhere on the short term horizon. The only remedy currently at the disposal of the government besides welfare transfers is affirmative action.

This is affirmative action in hiring of middle class jobs (mostly government), not Ivy League admissions. Would you support the government favoring hiring of blacks so that at least 50% of black households can be middle class and provide an anchor for their communities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909984)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: mint legend

I oppose affirmative action because it produces harmful economic effects in general by allowing unqualified people into high positions and creating polarization between Americans. I suppose I can see the argument for not trying to abolish it without more of a safety net in play, though.

To answer your question: absolutely not. Cities need to have police forces and transportation systems that work. Caring about the poor is not the same as thinking we should destroy all of society to help them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910019)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

Helping the poor can't be done without cost. Tariffs that end up making everyone pay $115,000 more for every Oklahoma tire job saved is a high cost too. How much cost are you willing to accept to make sure those who didn't win the genetic lottery get the help they need? And why do you think hiring a large number of black police officers, bus drivers, and postal workers is too large of a cost?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910117)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: mint legend

I know, the question is about what is effective and how much does it cost. Policy is about tradeoffs, but our dispute seems to be about values. We don't have a managerial disagreement, you think poors should be left to die and I don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910126)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

You aren't accurately portraying the white v. black issue to avoid consistently applying the principal you came up with that because of heritable traits out of an individual's control, the government should help failures.

Cutting off disability insurance for poor white communities = leaving people to die

Giving black people government jobs = destroying society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910187)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: mint legend

In terms of policies what I support would help all poor Americans. I do have more sympathy for whites, but that isn't really related to my point at all.

Letting people with very low IQs run important institutions is different from giving poor people money to live on. What sort of aspie fed society retard are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910205)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

Distortions again. Giving people with low IQs government worker jobs is not letting them be police chief or city manager.

I'm pointing out I don't think you are basing your policy answer on the principle you started out claiming and that is what you are pretty much admitting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910252)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: mint legend

Those workers impact the functioning of an institution too genius, that's the issue. That is why so many American transit firms are so bad.

I don't claim to feel sympathy for all groups equally and never did. That's a normative view based on my values. The point about free will is objectively correct, that's quite different.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910276)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

Badly run transportation is different from destroy society.

You made the point that lack of free will led you to support helping people at the bottom. Now it's about a sense of group solidarity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910299)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: mint legend

That was obviously just hyperbole, I said quite clearly that I opposed it due to general economic harms. You're not even trying to argue in good faith, but most libertarians never do.

Speaking personally, it's both. I do care more about my people, that's just normal. I am also an American though, and see American citizens as my countrymen. There is nothing contradictory about this aspie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910353)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

If it was just general economic harm then why are you arguing against extending the help black communities need due to low average IQ?

What I'm pointing out is you are changing your argument. You went from talking about heredity to claiming now 75% group solidarity / 25% making up for bad genetic draw.

When did we talk about foreigners v. Americans? We've been talking about blacks v. whites. Group solidarity here means being on the side of race.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910597)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: multi-colored charcoal chapel

he wrecked you breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911104)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

He conceded to everything in the end but didnt have the dignity to admit it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35912763)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:23 PM
Author: mint legend

You are an idiot and should kill yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35912830)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

You're the one being an idiot by throwing a tantrum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35914127)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: brindle galvanic hell mad-dog skullcap

well, tbf people die in disproportionate numbers every day because of black incompetence in the us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911565)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Out-of-control kitty cat

The US has no sovereign wealth. We are bankrupt and broke is every sense of the words.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35916374)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: cerise awkward chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910313)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Sable laser beams

yes, this opinion is [rightfully] unpopular here. it would be quite popular at the dinner table of john podesta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909664)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: godawful theatre

why does this apply to whites and not blacks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909672)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Sable laser beams

one has agency and the other doesnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909676)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: godawful theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909683)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Curious maize generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909698)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: anal property circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909747)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: multi-colored charcoal chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909773)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Racy well-lubricated incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909821)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: brindle galvanic hell mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911573)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Motley gaping principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35912769)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: insecure toilet seat indirect expression

it applies to both, but xoxo consists of mostly white trash so OP was targeting a specific audience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909937)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: jet-lagged brunch volcanic crater

I think this is true, sadly. Many of my prole relatives just sit around smoking and watching TV while their lives slip away. One of my cousins is 35 and still working on his GED; others have multiple children and live in squalor. I've had my share of ups and downs, but at least I'm out there trying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909708)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: Misanthropic Ticket Booth

you could be trying a heck of a lot harder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909751)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Irate university

How awesome would it be to go back to high school at 35?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909792)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Lascivious orchestra pit karate

Out there trying?? You stock shelves at a fucking grocery store and don’t even have the balls to take the lsat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910775)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:30 AM
Author: nofapping corn cake step-uncle's house

i wish i stocked shelves instead of going into a bunch of life-ruining debt for law school.

law school is a terrible idea for most people. it's incurring massive debt to get a degree in a vastly oversaturated market; most aren't going to get biglaw, they're going to get shitty jobs where they have to work 60 hours a weak dealing with insane clients and partners doing shit like insurance defense and worker's comp all for 50-60k. so you're ruining your life for a very small chance at a significant income increase, and a very large chance of hating your life and working for shit pay on a per hour basis. plus, even wouldn't be done law school until he was in his 40s -- that's not exactly what partners are looking for in a first year associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35914226)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: pearl quadroon

they need and deserve discipline and a strong leader

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909739)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: anal property circlehead

Libs killing christianity really sucks

A lot of the problem is there isn't a societal force instilling discipline and shame

Having to go to church every week and be judged by your community is sort of a positive force for keeping your life on track

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909755)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Maroon Library Legal Warrant

I agree. Even a lot of the old blacks in the south who regularly attend church are 180 people and would be great community members. It's a force that does a lot of good.

I've poasted about this before, but the elites have really done a disservice to this country by killing off religion. The upper class and UMC can get away with no religion because they have the inherent traits -- intelligence, delayed gratification, hard work, etc. -- that allow them to be successful without a code that keeps them on the straight and narrow. And in many respects the upper class and UMC PREFER no religion because it allows them to take part in degenerate behavior without shame and other community repercussions. They can handle it, whereas many in the MC/WC/LC cannot.

This is one of the reasons why Jews really push the whole no religion thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909882)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: anal property circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909980)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: brindle galvanic hell mad-dog skullcap

just, I mean, how do the jews do this in concert? do they discuss this in secret cabals? or is this more of an order out of disorder thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911586)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Maroon Library Legal Warrant

is this low IQ shtick?

the Jews aren't doing this in concert. they are a high IQ group that skews UMC/wealthy and for them the lack of religion and the availability of degeneracy is good a benefit.

in fact, if anything my poast cuts against this being a Jewish conspiracy, because what I'm really saying is that it's the upper classes pushing for no religion at the expense of the lower classes. it just so happens that most jews are in the UMC/Upper class. and of course it doesn't hurt that they have zero ties to Christianity so they especially don't care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911628)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: brindle galvanic hell mad-dog skullcap

lack of religion and the availability of degeneracy is good for them? How so?

Just curious. I would think Jews would prefer to have their neighbors as friendly Christians rather than friendly atheists. Friendly Christians support Israel, respect Judaism as a precursor to Christianity, credit American jews with having undergone a terrible experience collectively (the holocaust)

As for "degeneracy"--I don't know what you mean? you mean porn? Its good for jews that people watch porn? I don't understand.

Substantive answers would be productive, not just "Spaceporn is low IQ schtick" without really responding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911663)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Maroon Library Legal Warrant

sorry, i left before i saw this.

degenerate behaviors are fun. sex with lots of people is fun, as are vices like alcohol, drugs, gambling, partying, etc.

when you're in the UMC/upper class, as most jews are, you WANT those degenerate behaviors to be available because it's fun to take advantage of them and because you can handle them. the jew (or really any other member of this class) will just be living next to other people of the same class who partake in such behaviors but are still functional, successful people.

going back to a 1950s style of community and living would undoubtedly be better for the middle, working and lower classes, but the upper classes will never have it because they're getting it all right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35915820)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Hideous church building therapy

maybe if catholic priests and protestant preachers weren't universally sleazy kiddy diddlers this wouldn't have happened

it's a lot like cops - the preacher and the policeman used to be two of the highest regarded members of the community. now, both professions are havens for misfit weirdos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910161)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: metal provocative home

it's not even related. every institution and profession has psychos, sociopaths, rapists, etc. religion is declining in the US due to "upstream" factors related the structure of society and the economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910423)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Maroon Library Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910510)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Hideous church building therapy

so you have an interesting conspiracy theory, it sounds like. let's hear it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911434)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: metal provocative home

there's no "conspiracy" involved. it's a recognition that reductionist post hoc rationalizations for complex social phenomena are usually very wrong. for one thing, the "abuse scandals" were biggest in the early-00's, at a time when:

-the long-term decline had been in effect for a while beforehand, and

-church attendance actually SPIKED for a while after 9/11

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911648)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: cerise awkward chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910326)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: Misanthropic Ticket Booth

they need to have their ancestry and history glorified until they regard their present states as a great shame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909760)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Shivering heaven filthpig

Mostly true. It doesn't mean they shouldn't support policies or candidates that are in their best interest. If one political group openly has contempt for you and wants to destroy your livelihood, you vote them the fuck out of office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909770)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: chrome titillating dog poop casino

The purpose of government is to look after its own citizens. Do you think other countries' governments shit on their working class and tell them to go die like our "liberal" "elites" do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909771)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: mint legend

Old WASP elites were never like this. They were elitist but also paternalistic. (((OP))) seems a bit different from them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909777)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: anal property circlehead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909822)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: chrome titillating dog poop casino

David Gelernter makes this point a lot about the cultural revolution of the 60s and their loss of control of universities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909884)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

I didn't say they should go die, I said they should not rely on bureaucratic saviors nor blame corporate strategies and automation or loss of jobs to other countries, sometimes you have to retrain and refocus elsewhere if the rubber factory shuts down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909800)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Shivering heaven filthpig

or, alternatively, you could vote to MAGA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909881)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Sable laser beams

CRAZY PILLS FOR PRESIDENT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909801)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

Go pick my mangos, bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909810)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

A government is funded by its productive citizens. If some citizens are permanent fuck ups then they don't deserve to have long term support from the citizens who are contributing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909862)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909868)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy psychic

prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909908)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Vengeful charismatic stage roommate

How much do you think the government should do for the bottom 25%? Exclude blacks from consideration to avoid race distraction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909934)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

Thinking this is a prole tell is an actual prole tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909991)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy psychic

I mean your usage of "this" instead of "cr" you reddit ape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910090)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Hideous church building therapy

lol i knew JD Vance was a poster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35909986)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: aphrodisiac wagecucks gas station

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910100)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: aphrodisiac wagecucks gas station

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910102)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: orchid hominid

What would you suggest even a 30yo Louisville grad with a 150 iq do if he wants to make forward progress?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910120)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: contagious piazza

Judging by the quality of life for working class and non-rich people in other first world countries, I think the US could do a lot better with its safety net and public investment. Other countries (like Japan, Britain, and Germany) have experienced the same if not steeper declines in manufacturing employment. But we don't see the same social ills skyrocketing in those places like they have in the US. Americans are extremely individualistic and judgmental with regards to poverty, which makes it a lot more difficult to address these problems with comprehensive solutions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910206)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: painfully honest lodge

twist: trumpmos agree with you, we just think its unfeasible to do that AND import millions of new immigrants that will be taking advantage of the social safety net

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910615)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: metal provocative home

"corporations" are not some force-of-nature; they are literally just legal frameworks that get whatever privileges the state chooses to extend to them. those can be changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910479)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: sticky naked scourge upon the earth

They bring problems onto themselves by letting the country's elites ruin their country and make them irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910558)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: tan aggressive den

They compound their own irrelevance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910605)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: painfully honest lodge

There isn't a more destructive flame than the lib idea that everyone can just "get an education" and then they'll find a good paying job.

There is only a limited supply of jobs that require higher education. You can't just pay for the entire country to go to college and then think there's going to be a new supply of well paying jobs just because all these people are now "educated". It's seriously retarded.

And technology is making educating the masses even more unnecessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910602)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle resort azn

cr Diesel Technology Certificates are a better option for 90% of college males

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910613)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: sticky naked scourge upon the earth

tcr. Especially since most education in the US is bullshit. The people studying STEM, accounting, etc. is a small percentage of people going to school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910623)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: green theater stage

actually that's #2.

as a matter of fact, reading plato and aristotle DOES in fact help you be a better motorcycle repairman, see i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Shop-Class-Soulcraft-Inquiry-Value/dp/0143117467

the #1 most destructive flame is that in the age of MIT opencourseware and khan academy that EDUCATION MUST COST $$$ AND GENERATE PROFIT$ FOR (((ADMINISTRATORS)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910778)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Exhilarant Useless Brakes

big corps benefit from are public education system, are workers, are military, are infrastructure, are political stability, are economic incentives, and so on ... then HEHE

HEHE

HEHE

SAVE A PENNY AND CUT 1000 JOBS, RUIN THE TOWN

And not to mention their federal officials who sold workers out in "free trade" agreements like NAFTA

I think they have a reasonable claim that they've been wronged but unscrupulous companies taking advantage of our country and its benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910646)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: painfully honest lodge

damnit people need to hang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910710)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: multi-colored charcoal chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911939)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Self-absorbed Dilemma Sound Barrier

here's the thing: working class whites aren't dying. they're having way more children than bougie/elite whites, and those children are more dysfunctional and anarchic each generation. a revolution is coming, and i hope i won't have to be alive to see it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910667)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: painfully honest lodge

why? it's gonna be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910713)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Self-absorbed Dilemma Sound Barrier

i'm high anxiety and can't use a gun. i won't make it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910737)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: pearl quadroon

why don't you learn to shoot, survive, and lead your fellow men? have you considered the united states army?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35910761)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: sticky naked scourge upon the earth

To be fair, you shouldn't make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911443)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: Lemon Plaza Dopamine

Deindustrialization, financialization of the economy, weakening labor laws, and other GC schemes are the culprits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35911475)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Motley gaping principal's office

Cr.

More crony capitalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35912774)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 9:25 PM
Author: aphrodisiac wagecucks gas station

*makes this OP*

"BTW it's totally reasonable to expect the government to give billions of dollars to Israel every year."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35912845)



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Date: April 25th, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: House-broken field

it's true and this is why i think mexicans >>>>> whitey

they have many of the same problems but at least mexicans have 180 family values, unlike drug addled whitey who throws grandma in a shit assisted living facility and also kicks 18yo babbydood out of the house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3958531&forum_id=2#35914217)