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Caught in a "catch 22" at my firm with inhouse counsel.

A senior associate I worked with at my firm went inhouse at ...
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: vibrant menage

A senior associate I worked with at my firm went inhouse at a client. He'll call me to handle some work and I'm still a junior so that's cool. The company has been a client for over a decade and has my firm on retainer. We handle just about everything from revising their employment manuals to financing to trademarks.

He calls a partner I work for about a procedural issue his company is facing (involving accepting service of process but that's not relevant). His industry gets sued a lot. Partner tells me to look into it. What I've done for a couple years in biglaw is, for easy questions, I have an Avvo account that I post questions to. Typically 4-5 different shitlawyers with 25 years of experience respond. Avvo lawyers don't give you a lot, just a teaser, but I ask several parts of the question and get a full answer by piecing it together. I do this for state court procedure, criminal law (for pro bono), basic black letter law - I post all this on Avvo and the lawyers respond. Probably a bad habit. I guess I'm "outsourcing" some of my biglaw work to Avvo.

I posted the state court procedural issue to Avvo the inhouse counsel asked the partner about and had a few attorneys respond. I picked the best one and sent the inhouse counsel the answer, but made it look like I had written it. Inhouse counsel apparently googled what I'd sent and my Avvo question popped right up as the first result. He called the partner and said that if I was googling his questions and copying from Avvo he'd be forced to cut off our work. The partner asked me how much time I billed to this and another email about this "potentially serious" issue.

So I can tell the partner that the Avvo poster was me and he would probably get angry that I'm posting my biglaw work to Avvo for answers, or I can act like I just googled the answer and didn't spend much time on the question which makes me look lazy. What would you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059284)



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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: glassy cracking public bath voyeur

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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Glittery arrogant market

180

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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: Abnormal metal faggot firefighter

I would not be a fraud and do my own work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059302)



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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:47 PM
Author: slimy cruise ship community account

shit. each make you look shitty.

I would say that you did google it at first, but also confirmed it with X book or statute, etc. to make sure that was the right answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059318)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Fragrant Chest-beating Plaza

OP in a tough spot but this seems like best way to go forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36062751)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: gaped puce property

This. Tried to keep billables to a minimum so googled it. Struck gold and checked it as poaster above said to make sure it's kosher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36062802)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Obsidian low-t stock car



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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: vibrant menage

This is what i wrote in an email tonight laying everything out. Said i was trying to be cost conscious (they dont know that i know we are on retainer). We’ll see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36065610)



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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Primrose unhinged water buffalo crackhouse

Update your resume

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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: Electric Abusive Range Marketing Idea

What's avvo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059366)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: jade self-centered theater nibblets



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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Navy shrine



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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Histrionic selfie hell



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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: Ruddy twisted stain

It is kind of dumb how we all pretend like we're not just googling the answer, but seems like you're fucking over these dudes and then blatantly copying/pasting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059547)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:46 AM
Author: jet hot toilet seat box office



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:03 AM
Author: plum gas station

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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: exhilarant masturbator jewess



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:10 AM
Author: Drab Sanctuary Twinkling Uncleanness

Tell them the truth. You use Avvo to get free advice from industry experts, which you then verify by doing your own research. The client should be happy, you’re billing less and getting work done faster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059711)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:18 AM
Author: Federal transparent trump supporter

Except he billed as if he did the research all on his own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059737)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: Drab Sanctuary Twinkling Uncleanness

They don’t know how long he “verified” the information from Avvo. If you’re talking about time entires, nobody puts down the method of researching law topics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36059744)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:31 AM
Author: Federal transparent trump supporter

Cr

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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:16 AM
Author: vibrant menage

this is a good idea and probably what ill do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36060716)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:10 AM
Author: Amber candlestick maker

180

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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: cerebral mustard blood rage church

lol 180

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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: Concupiscible Autistic Affirmative Action

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36060735)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: exhilarant masturbator jewess



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Indigo Passionate Theater Stage



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: Onyx misunderstood school cafeteria

JOHNSMEYER!

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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: impertinent toaster crotch



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:31 PM
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Obsidian low-t stock car



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Institution



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: 180 pocket flask generalized bond

180 he's back!

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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: impertinent toaster crotch

Shad, Zeke, Halford, Lasko are next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36062939)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: plum gas station



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:50 PM
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:43 PM
Author: swollen abode



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: light spectacular kitchen jap

HIP-HOP is alive!!!!!

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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: white orchestra pit mediation

"look at that, somebody else had the same question and got the same answer I came up with, weird!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36062836)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Institution

Tell the partner that if the in-house counsel is going to google the answers for himself, don't bother asking you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36062850)



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Date: May 17th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: vibrant menage

I added in my email to him something similar to this, but in a lighter tone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978007&forum_id=2#36067023)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Milky sound barrier knife

Amazing post brother

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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: hairraiser saffron parlor faggotry

180

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Date: May 18th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: impertinent toaster crotch



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: alcoholic razzle forum

180

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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Fragrant Chest-beating Plaza



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