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IP litigator bills 3,600 hours in one year (link)

Ever wonder how your billable hours measure up? Consider thi...
Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor
  05/18/18
this is a farce.
Rose cumskin meetinghouse
  05/18/18
make hay when the sun shines! (By double billing)
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
Wow, the article says this guy does patent prosecution too. ...
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  05/18/18
easy to rack up the hours. hard to get paid for it.
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  05/18/18
Yeah if you want a dogshit realization rate. This dude is a...
Chrome main people library
  05/18/18
He’s basically a named partner
Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor
  05/18/18
also - patent applications / trademark applications and the ...
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
why would he willingly give this info to the ABA? Clients ha...
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
this guy isn't billing out at MFH biglaw partner rates, so c...
Mint yarmulke nibblets
  05/18/18
that's not how this works at all
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
this guy's hourly rate is probably comparable to mid-level b...
Mint yarmulke nibblets
  05/18/18
so is mine. clients dont' tell me "go ahead & pad, ...
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
Obviously no one acknowledges padding, but he's probably pad...
Mint yarmulke nibblets
  05/18/18
the point is that the client base is not the same
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
we should just kill ourselves, brother
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  05/18/18
we can still maek
startled generalized bond
  05/18/18
LJL
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
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  05/18/18
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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor

Ever wonder how your billable hours measure up? Consider this: Daniel Bliss billed 3,600 hours last year.

That’s almost 70 billable hours a week for 52 weeks. That’s 10 billable hours a day if you work seven days. That’s nearly 12 billable hours a day if you decide to take off one day a week.

However you look at it, that’s a lot of hours.

“You know what?” Bliss said. “When the sun shines, you have to make hay.”

You evidently have to “make hay” when the sun doesn’t shine as well if you want to rack up those numbers. Bliss, an intellectual property lawyer and partner at Michigan-based Howard & Howard, admits he worked plenty of 12-hour days, evenings and weekends last year. He even racked up billable hours while on vacation.

The self-proclaimed workaholic is actually one of dozens of lawyers in the United States who billed more than 3,000 hours in 2017, according to information reported by law firms for the Am Law 200/NLJ 500 survey. The firms were asked to report the total hours billed by the lawyer who billed the most hours during 2017.

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At least a dozen firms declined to identify their highest-billing lawyer, citing such excuses as the lawyer can’t talk about the work, or, the lawyer is too busy to do an interview. Two firms said the hours reported were actually inaccurate, as they represented the total hours spent on a project or the total hours billed by a practice group—not the number of hours billed by an individual lawyer.

But Bliss’ hours were all his. And he was willing to talk about them.

Bliss, who works out of the firm’s offices in Royal Oak, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, and in Las Vegas, said it takes a great deal of discipline and organization to accumulate that many hours. He’s been able to bill an average of 300 hours a month, he said, because he knows exactly what tasks he must accomplish each day.

He’s also fortunate to have a lot of work, he said, although he declined to identify his clients. He fills out his own time sheets instead of having an assistant do it, to ensure the recording of hours worked and the description of that work are correct.

He also said it helps to keep a steady pace. To keep on track, he strives to bill 10 hours a day. “Sometimes you make it. Sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you go beyond it,” he said.

Bliss, who does patent prosecution, trademark work and litigation, said he usually is at the office by 7 a.m. and doesn’t leave before 7 p.m. He also typically works on weekends. For part of 2017, his wife was out of town so he got into a routine of working a long day at the office, coming home, eating and then working some more.

He also works on airplanes while traveling, often drafting patent applications.

“It’s that little bit that helps each month,” he said.

Despite his nose-to-the-grindstone ways, Bliss said he doesn’t expect the same from his associates. “Not everybody is going to be like me,” he said.

Bliss has been a high biller his entire career—well before he joined Howard & Howard, a 140-lawyer firm with offices in Michigan, Illinois, Nevada and California. He was equally driven at his previous firm—an IP boutique he co-founded in 1994 with Gerald McGlynn III. That firm, Bliss McGlynn, merged with Howard & Howard in 2013.

He’s always been a high achiever, according to McGlynn, who is also a partner at Howard & Howard and has known Bliss since they were lab partners at Michigan Technological University. ”He would take 22 credits a term and get like a 3.9. It’s evidence he has the ability to absorb a lot of information and generate high-quality product,” McGlynn said.

But it takes more than efficiency and drive to bill that many hours in a year. Bliss is able to do it, McGlynn said, because he likes what he does.

“He just tears into it, and he’s happy to do it.”

And that love of work is really what it takes, according to McGlynn. He should know. In 2015, it was McGlynn who took the prize as Howard & Howard’s highest biller.

That year, he billed 3,200 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075870)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: Rose cumskin meetinghouse

this is a farce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075879)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

make hay when the sun shines! (By double billing)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075881)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: Brass corner dingle berry

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075908)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: orchid plaza



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: Big faggotry kitchen



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: comical prole

Ljl @ this bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075890)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: Chrome main people library

Wow, the article says this guy does patent prosecution too. It's really hard to rack up big hours these days doing prep & pros due to low caps, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075897)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: Rose cumskin meetinghouse

easy to rack up the hours. hard to get paid for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075903)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: Chrome main people library

Yeah if you want a dogshit realization rate. This dude is a partner too. Crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075910)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor

He’s basically a named partner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36077332)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: Rose cumskin meetinghouse

also - patent applications / trademark applications and the prosecution tasks that go with them are all flat-fee billing for most firms.

7k max for a patent app. The app should take >20 hours. Then for office action responses, its max 2-3k per and those probably take 6-8 hours.

Even with 3600 hours he is still only generating ~1M in revenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075900)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: Chrome main people library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075914)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: multi-colored tripping tanning salon

already covered. if this guy's not a liar--which he is--he's a retard.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977084&mc=5&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075916)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: Mint yarmulke nibblets

"He’s also fortunate to have a lot of work, he said, although he declined to identify his clients. He fills out his own time sheets instead of having an assistant do it, to ensure the recording of hours worked and the description of that work are correct."

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075917)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:27 AM
Author: comical prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075919)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: multi-colored tripping tanning salon

This is like one of those things that would have gone in the letter about how the SEC guy knew Madoff was a fraud. Which is worth reading if you ever want to spot scam investments.

https://www.sec.gov/news/studies/2009/oig-509/exhibit-0293.pdf

This is like Madoff going to cash at the end of every quarter. Or using a store front auditor in Queens who he was related to rather than a big 4. Or actively turning away qualified investors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075924)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Violet azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36077074)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

why would he willingly give this info to the ABA? Clients have to be giving him heat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075959)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: Mint yarmulke nibblets

this guy isn't billing out at MFH biglaw partner rates, so clients still probably see it as a decent value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075969)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

that's not how this works at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075985)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Mint yarmulke nibblets

this guy's hourly rate is probably comparable to mid-level biglaw associate in a major market or maybe even lower than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076019)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

so is mine. clients dont' tell me "go ahead & pad, since you're cheaper than MoFo SF 3d year it's cool"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076024)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Mint yarmulke nibblets

Obviously no one acknowledges padding, but he's probably padding a little bit on a lot of different matters. At the end of the day, the bill from Howard & Howard will still be a lot cheaper than what the client would get from MoFo (they're padding too, btw).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076040)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

the point is that the client base is not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076046)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: Mint yarmulke nibblets

we should just kill ourselves, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076559)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: startled generalized bond

we can still maek

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076701)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: fragrant resort cuckold

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076548)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: orchid plaza

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36077088)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: multi-colored tripping tanning salon

Also LJL at describing this goon as a "litigator."

AND LJL at a partner actually working on patent apps



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075937)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Chrome main people library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076022)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: Exciting orchestra pit

"He even racked up billable hours while on vacation."

Wow, how unique!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36075974)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:44 AM
Author: arousing lilac chapel digit ratio



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Lascivious Parlour Genital Piercing

Push notification to DBG's cell: "A Great Biller has been born in a faraway land!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076008)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: gay infuriating den



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Hyperventilating Balding State Party Of The First Part



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: effete big-titted shrine

Drunkard has done this every year for over a decade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076045)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: multi-colored tripping tanning salon

Not only that, but has managed to drink like an alcoholic, acquire multiple high-end Porsches, Ferraris, and quirky trucks and British cars, and performed complex, time-consuming maintenance on them and tracked them!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076063)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Exciting orchestra pit

he also lives in a 10 bedroom mansion despite being a lowly associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076087)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Violent Appetizing Nursing Home Ceo

It's funny how you can spot a gleeful shit eater like this during interview season and they normally get multiple offers.

TMF is clearly one of these types but somehow so unlikable that all the firms pass on having someone who would do the work of two associates in the work place Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076050)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor



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Date: May 18th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: bisexual sound barrier point

Ljl at wanting to be known as the biggest padder in the business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076107)



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Date: May 18th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Ocher Haunted Graveyard Parlor



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Honey-headed Chad Temple



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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: motley azure trailer park blood rage

its literally like this guy is trying to commit career and actual suicide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36076962)



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Autistic Selfie

wouldnt you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980141&forum_id=2#36299136)