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Date: May 23rd, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Hairraiser well-lubricated institution
lmao you disingenuous fuck. the gravamen of your observation is that no one actually criticizes the extension of 2A rights to modern day firearms due to the fact that, when the 2A was drafted, only muskets were used and modern day firearms are relevantly different. that's patently untrue, with loads of counterexamples, of which the linked article is one.
the author, a liar like you, attempts to elide the obvious implication that any value in their argument derives from "2A =/= modern day firearms" with this:
"In itself, that isn't an argument for banning everything other than muskets. Technology evolves. It makes no more sense to say an AR-15 isn't protected by the Second Amendment than it does to say that computers or ballpoint pens aren't protected by the First.
But evolving technology does call for evolving regulation. And, in practice, the implementation of the Second Amendment has never been strictly "absolute." Most gun owners accept that civilians typically can't own fully automatic rifles or tanks or nuclear weapons. Our understanding of the "arms" of the Second Amendment has evolved over the years, subject to shifts in political and legal norms."
of course, this observation, when couched in the context of an article about how the 2A, when drafted, didn't cover modern day firearms, is precisely about ostending to a "weakness" in the 2A absolutist position by pointing out that ARs aren't muskets. it cannot mean anything EXCEPT that, otherwise the entire argument is a non sequitur.
and that's fine. it, frankly, IS an infirmity of the 2A absolutist position. firearms aren't what they used to be. but just say that, rat fuck, rather than lying about it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984638&forum_id=2#36112546) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Pungent Stock Car
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997) , and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."
DC v. Heller
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984638&forum_id=2#36112310) |
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