We all agree that HYPMSC are the top universities, but where is the next cutoff?
| Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bright glittery business firm | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Aqua sticky bawdyhouse | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Peach Headpube | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Cream pistol legend | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Cream pistol legend | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/24/18 | | Claret senate sex offender | 05/26/18 | | vibrant cyan station antidepressant drug | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Charismatic Flirting Rigpig | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Charismatic Flirting Rigpig | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Peach Headpube | 05/23/18 | | Peach Headpube | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | embarrassed to the bone legal warrant | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | embarrassed to the bone legal warrant | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | embarrassed to the bone legal warrant | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | embarrassed to the bone legal warrant | 05/23/18 | | Charismatic Flirting Rigpig | 05/23/18 | | Charismatic Flirting Rigpig | 05/23/18 | | Jet-lagged umber feces dragon | 05/23/18 | | Canary Alcoholic Mood Brunch | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Canary Alcoholic Mood Brunch | 05/23/18 | | twinkling doobsian lay marketing idea | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | embarrassed to the bone legal warrant | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Peach Headpube | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Peach Headpube | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | avocado home filthpig | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | unhinged keepsake machete | 05/23/18 | | Arousing adulterous codepig principal's office | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Charismatic Flirting Rigpig | 05/23/18 | | Splenetic autistic tattoo | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Splenetic autistic tattoo | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Splenetic autistic tattoo | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Splenetic autistic tattoo | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Cream pistol legend | 05/23/18 | | bearded box office | 05/23/18 | | Cream pistol legend | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | Splenetic autistic tattoo | 05/23/18 | | Aggressive Pontificating Trump Supporter | 05/23/18 | | razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | bespoke dilemma | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | clear voyeur azn | 05/23/18 | | Electric Therapy Point | 05/23/18 | | effete base | 05/23/18 | | Exhilarant Dark Friendly Grandma Half-breed | 05/23/18 | | iridescent quadroon | 05/23/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/23/18 | | Histrionic sooty cruise ship | 05/23/18 | | bright glittery business firm | 05/26/18 | | cowardly patrolman doctorate | 05/23/18 | | Hot garnet messiness | 05/24/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/24/18 | | Hot garnet messiness | 05/24/18 | | Ivory coffee pot | 05/24/18 | | charcoal bateful genital piercing | 05/26/18 | | Azure mewling parlor factory reset button | 05/26/18 | | bright glittery business firm | 05/26/18 | | charcoal bateful genital piercing | 05/26/18 | | Concupiscible set | 05/26/18 | | bright glittery business firm | 05/26/18 |
Poast new message in this thread
Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
After HYPMSC, the following are in US News' top 25:
Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Hopkins, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Rice, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Emory, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Carnegie Mellon, UVA
Is there a cutoff in that group?
In some respects I find them pretty equivalent, though I personally could see arguments for some or all of the following being in a distinct tier: Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown
Thoughts?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113286) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
perhaps
i don't mind the top publics oos, but depends on the price.
certainly they're not the bargains oos that they were when i was in HS
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113855) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:45 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
one thing i've thought of doing is taking an amount of cash equal to Harvard's total cost of attendance for 4 years and offering that to my kids either for school or in cash (with a few strings on the cash)
so, e.g., if Harvard's total cost of attendance is $300k, whatever they don't spend on college they get in cash.
would Lehigh really be worth $200k in cash to a HS kid over attending his state flagship?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114081) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:00 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone legal warrant
I think ND and Georgetown are great for Catholicmos. I'm not impressed by Rice or Emory, but I'm also not impressed by the STEM flame. I don't care for JHU.
There's also something really sad about Vandy, USC, and CMU.
I think all of these second-rate private schools offer full schollys, so that's consolation.
But I'm a New Yorker. I'd feel bad sending my stupid kid to rot in Binghamton. Maybe just do 4.0 at CUNY and CCN with no scholly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113435) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:09 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
of the remaining top 25, i'm trying to think where i wouldn't want to send my hypothetical kid
Definitely wouldn't be excited about Wash, Emory, Rice, Berkeley, or Carnegie Mellon
Borderline schools would be Hopkins, Notre Dame, UCLA, USC, maybe Vandy, maybe Brown
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113484) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone legal warrant
Berkeley total COA for OOSers is 64,000:
https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance
UVA is great, and so is Michigan. UNC's academic rep doesn't match, IMO. It bothers me that there are so many coastal Jews at Mich.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113559) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
exactly right
too many state programs and bullshit like guaranteed transfers.
now again, maybe that has changed, but it was always a step behind Columbia, Penn, Dart, Brown. we always had way more kids go to Cornell than to CPDB.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113605) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:21 PM Author: razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth
Yeah, you may be right. But I sort of think super-study Ivy-obsessed Azns may have pushed it up due to dat IVY prestige in the past 15 years?
As a CA-mo in the 90s, it wasn't a popular school. People would go east for the other ivies (over Berkeley/UCLA/USC for sure) but I don't remember a lot of people going to Cornell or even applying.
Also back then Chicago was not a place were top students went - very midrange guys (smart but not the overachiever Ivy or Berkeley type) would go there.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113965) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
Not all state flagships are equal though.
Like, fuck my HS self going to SUNY Binghamton.
NY has the fucking worst public universities.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114157) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
and a lot of them are fun too and offer a lot
Big 10/SEC/Pac 12 >>>> Northeast Publics
I mean for God's sake, University of New Hampshire? UMass? URI? Rutgers? Binghamton? Blech
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114247) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:26 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
I go back and forth.
I think money becomes an issue. If you live in Colorado and you're really smart and your parents make too much to get aid, then going to CU Boulder might make sense over paying a shitton for Emory or Notre Dame.
That said, I do think there is some tangible value to those other top 25 schools, but as you said you have to want that kind of a school.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113989) |
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:43 PM Author: razzmatazz crystalline internal respiration scourge upon the earth
Or you can always go to BAMA virtually for free if you cop a 3.5/1490 in high school.
https://scholarships.ua.edu/types/out-of-state.php
Presidential Scholar
A student with a 33-36 ACT or 1490-1600 SAT score and at least a 3.5 GPA will be selected as a Presidential Scholar and will receive $100,000 over four years ($25,000 per year). Students graduating with remaining scholarship semester(s) may use these monies toward graduate school and/or law school study at UA.
What percentage of students receive a merit-based scholarship offer if they meet the criteria listed?
All students who meet the criteria will receive an automatic scholarship offer if the student has been admitted by the December 15 deadline.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114066) |
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:47 PM Author: Aggressive Pontificating Trump Supporter
i went to Big StaTTTe fagship and have regretted it all of my life.
but i would prolly suck regardless
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114107) |
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM Author: bespoke dilemma
HYPS
MC
CPDD
Annapolis/West Point/Colorado Springs
State Flagship
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114134) |
|
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM Author: Ivory coffee pot
Okay so let's use a real-world example where you live in Larchmont NY with your family.
Your son gets into Northwestern, Brown and Vandy but none of the schools you have ranked above it. He doesn't want to go the academy route.
Are you really going to tell him to go to Binghamton?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114179) |
Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM Author: Electric Therapy Point
Curtis
....
CalTech
...
other decent schools (HYP)
...
Everything else
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114159) |
Date: May 26th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: Concupiscible set
top 10 not complicated, really:
CaPM > SH >>> ChCo > YPeBe
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131047) |
|
|