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We all agree that HYPMSC are the top universities, but where is the next cutoff?

After HYPMSC, the following are in US News' top 25: Chica...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
agree that CCPDDNB are a tier above the rest prestige-wise.
passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner
  05/23/18
any additions or subtractions from that list?
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Delete Chicago. Nobody should go there
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Chicago is a solid school
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Bill Gates' kid is.
Carnelian diverse plaza
  05/23/18
Aspies in a school full of aspies? Floored
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Georgetown. National prestige factor due to proximity to po...
zippy doobsian hell
  05/23/18
I can see the argument
puce hospital
  05/23/18
the first time I even heard of Georgetown was as a teen watc...
Brass national security agency
  05/23/18
he makes it to Georgetown tho! and picks up his porn star gf...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
yeah nice feelgood movie
Brass national security agency
  05/23/18
LJFL Total lightweight school, majority female, no engine...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Does ND pwn it? I have no idea, but I'd look at them as peer...
puce hospital
  05/24/18
lol at anyone taking georgeTTTown seriously
cerise stead mediation
  05/26/18
At that point you just save the money and go to flagship sta...
Light boistinker national
  05/23/18
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wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
meh, idk. depends on the state. would you really go to th...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
u have a pt here. if you're in a big state though, better to...
Appetizing chapel psychic
  05/23/18
yes, but uva is in the list in the OP and UT is one of the s...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
wouldnt recommend uva to a non virgina dweller tho, or UT to...
Appetizing chapel psychic
  05/23/18
perhaps i don't mind the top publics oos, but depends on ...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Which top publics are still any cheaper than a private schoo...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Michigan OOS COA: $62,176 (tuition & fees: $47,476 of ...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
Aaaaahaahahahahaha
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Yes, but some day this is going to be our problem.
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
only if you let it
puce hospital
  05/23/18
I will keep the bort apprised. Only 14 more years.
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
one thing i've thought of doing is taking an amount of cash ...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
The college scam will have long since blown up by then At...
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
UVA oos tuition is $43k. Michigan looks to have tuition of l...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
UVA/Mich are both like 30 instate so 80% of Berkeley. Even ...
zippy doobsian hell
  05/23/18
Lol wut? UVA is 30% oos. And the in state population are ma...
zippy doobsian hell
  05/23/18
(Not Carson Wentz)
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
I think ND and Georgetown are great for Catholicmos. I'm not...
180 forum pisswyrm
  05/23/18
of the remaining top 25, i'm trying to think where i wouldn'...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Aren't Berkeley and UCLA 70,000 per year for out of staters?...
180 forum pisswyrm
  05/23/18
not that much but pretty expensive. i'd never tell my kid to...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Berkeley total COA for OOSers is 64,000: https://financia...
180 forum pisswyrm
  05/23/18
Oy gevalt!
puce hospital
  05/23/18
The goyim know, shut it down!
180 forum pisswyrm
  05/23/18
state flagship for NY is basically cornell tho
Appetizing chapel psychic
  05/23/18
ti,oc,tcr
Appetizing chapel psychic
  05/23/18
Some deathcamp in a sulfur mine. It really doesn't matter wh...
grizzly domesticated corner
  05/23/18
You’re a faggot
Garnet Mind-boggling Factory Reset Button
  05/23/18
whoa, this will really cause me to re-evaluate my poasting. ...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Whoa you’re a faggot
Garnet Mind-boggling Factory Reset Button
  05/23/18
...
know-it-all nudist gaping
  05/23/18
I think there's a clear second tier that includes the other ...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Maybe this is colored by me being a NYmo, but back in the da...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
I agree with this. It might be wrong (and either way it's 2...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
RBG went to Cornell, but maybe it was the only good school a...
180 forum pisswyrm
  05/23/18
exactly right too many state programs and bullshit like g...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
This is the national perception. There’s a big gap between ...
zippy doobsian hell
  05/23/18
Hmm, I still think it belongs above all the others not in th...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Without using the word "Ivy" what does it offer th...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Even if "Ivy" is the only thing, I think people ge...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
We saw it as kind of an Ivy In Name Only. Plenty of peopl...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Yeah, you may be right. But I sort of think super-study Ivy...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
agreed on Chicago back then
puce hospital
  05/23/18
...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
That’s the whole joke with Andy Bernard on The Office. It’s...
zippy doobsian hell
  05/23/18
Yeah, and again I actually like Cornell and think it takes t...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
HYPMSC = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Caltech?
Charismatic mewling public bath crotch
  05/23/18
yeah
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Johns Hopkins >>>>>>
Lavender swashbuckling theatre digit ratio
  05/23/18
Where does Loyola Chicago fit in?
House-broken chartreuse institution
  05/23/18
If you have to ask....
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
new yorkers: your unexceptional kids will go to a shit priva...
Appetizing chapel psychic
  05/23/18
Outside of the schools in the first tier mentioned, are any ...
translucent pocket flask lettuce
  05/23/18
Totally agree and I think this is the official XO position.
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Sorry, forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld...
translucent pocket flask lettuce
  05/23/18
Oh fuck I never saw this one. JFC at 00:20-00:23
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
Ironside-Approved at 0:22
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Of course, going to BigState doesn't mean someone that's soc...
translucent pocket flask lettuce
  05/23/18
Not all state flagships are equal though. Like, fuck my H...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
True. It's interesting because with the situation re: UC adm...
translucent pocket flask lettuce
  05/23/18
and a lot of them are fun too and offer a lot Big 10/SEC/...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
In college I would have called some of those girls "ugl...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
who besides the couple ugly azn girls that pop up?
puce hospital
  05/23/18
I was speaking figuratively, but the Asian girls to start. ...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
I go back and forth. I think money becomes an issue. If y...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
This is another reason why getting into one of the top tier ...
Brass national security agency
  05/23/18
thought this was only true of hypsm
greedy clear address goal in life
  05/23/18
nah, probably moreso there for sure, but there are other sch...
Brass national security agency
  05/23/18
HYPSM only give strictly need-based aid though. If your par...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Or you can always go to BAMA virtually for free if you cop a...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
I've mentioned this to my wife as a plan b for our kid. Did...
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
i'm sure some of the Bama chads will be more than happy to h...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
...
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
I was an OOS Presidential scholar at my undergrad; correct o...
translucent pocket flask lettuce
  05/23/18
i went to Big StaTTTe fagship and have regretted it all of m...
Tantric Reading Party Area
  05/23/18
What were your other options?
Motley Dopamine Crackhouse
  05/23/18
HYPS MC CPDD Annapolis/West Point/Colorado Springs State...
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
The Military academies take a special person though. It's no...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
Yeah fair but that's the ranking I'll have for my kids
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Okay so let's use a real-world example where you live in Lar...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
No, I'm not living in Larchmont
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Darien/UConn
puce hospital
  05/23/18
More like UF or FSU by that point in life
wild contagious legend sound barrier
  05/23/18
Ungh, okay fair enough Enjoy Palm Beach!
puce hospital
  05/23/18
(proud parent of a Huskie)
shimmering ceo
  05/23/18
Curtis .... CalTech ... other decent schools (HYP) ......
narrow-minded idea he suggested lay
  05/23/18
Whatever the second tier is, WUSTL isn't in it.
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  05/23/18
Strong contender for most AZN thread of the week
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http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4...
puce hospital
  05/23/18
cooper union & olin college of engineering
glassy laser beams box office
  05/23/18
my kids would definitely be allowed to go to cooper union
passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner
  05/26/18
ITT: asians
anal international law enforcement agency
  05/23/18
cr. SHOCKED op isnt a gook
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  05/24/18
?? i'm Chinese http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_i...
puce hospital
  05/24/18
OUTED!! https://rafaelnadalfans.files.wordpress.com/2015/...
Fishy lodge love of her life
  05/24/18
That was a while ago breh; I've grown 3 inches since then
puce hospital
  05/24/18
If your parents make a decent living....any big ten, pac 12,...
boyish trailer park karate
  05/26/18
really shocked OP wasnt JJC
Wonderful charcoal stag film
  05/26/18
i mean, it didn't say HYPSP
passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner
  05/26/18
For undergrad, he didnt make that lower ivy either
boyish trailer park karate
  05/26/18
top 10 not complicated, really: CaPM > SH >>>...
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weirdest and most retarded post in this thread
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: puce hospital

After HYPMSC, the following are in US News' top 25:

Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Hopkins, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Rice, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Emory, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Carnegie Mellon, UVA

Is there a cutoff in that group?

In some respects I find them pretty equivalent, though I personally could see arguments for some or all of the following being in a distinct tier: Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown

Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113286)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner

agree that CCPDDNB are a tier above the rest prestige-wise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113405)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: puce hospital

any additions or subtractions from that list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113407)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

Delete Chicago. Nobody should go there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113412)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: puce hospital

Chicago is a solid school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113430)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Carnelian diverse plaza

Bill Gates' kid is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113675)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

Aspies in a school full of aspies? Floored

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113804)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: zippy doobsian hell

Georgetown. National prestige factor due to proximity to power and political celebrities cycling out of government into there. Translates to pop culture e.g. Tracy Flick “wins” high school striver race and that’s her prize. Also SoFP as an elite signifier is real. Famous alumni with prestige level that blows away most of the rest of this list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114023)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: puce hospital

I can see the argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114049)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Brass national security agency

the first time I even heard of Georgetown was as a teen watching that movie The Girl Next Door about the "smart" main character gunning for a scholarship there and getting derailed by a porn star lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114096)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: puce hospital

he makes it to Georgetown tho! and picks up his porn star gf in a BMW too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114136)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Brass national security agency

yeah nice feelgood movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114147)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

LJFL

Total lightweight school, majority female, no engineering, terrible STEM, mainly known for its soft-subject grad schools (law and policy), not even the best Catholic school (ND pwns it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36116353)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: puce hospital

Does ND pwn it? I have no idea, but I'd look at them as peers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120035)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: cerise stead mediation

lol at anyone taking georgeTTTown seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131651)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Light boistinker national

At that point you just save the money and go to flagship state U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113315)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113330)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: puce hospital

meh, idk. depends on the state.

would you really go to the University of North Dakota over Duke? Is the dropoff between Yale and Duke that big?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113347)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Appetizing chapel psychic

u have a pt here. if you're in a big state though, better to do flagship. utttexas or uva will get u just as far as columbia or brown most of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113813)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: puce hospital

yes, but uva is in the list in the OP and UT is one of the schools just outside it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113819)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Appetizing chapel psychic

wouldnt recommend uva to a non virgina dweller tho, or UT to a non texan. that's the diff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113832)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: puce hospital

perhaps

i don't mind the top publics oos, but depends on the price.

certainly they're not the bargains oos that they were when i was in HS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113855)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:33 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Which top publics are still any cheaper than a private school for OOS?

The UCs aren't. UNC is I think. Not sure about Michigan/UVA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114019)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

Michigan OOS COA: $62,176 (tuition & fees: $47,476 of that)

UVA OOS COA: $61,994 (tuition & fees: $46,634 of that)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114028)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

Aaaaahaahahahahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114034)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

Yes, but some day this is going to be our problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114040)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: puce hospital

only if you let it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114051)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

I will keep the bort apprised. Only 14 more years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114065)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: puce hospital

one thing i've thought of doing is taking an amount of cash equal to Harvard's total cost of attendance for 4 years and offering that to my kids either for school or in cash (with a few strings on the cash)

so, e.g., if Harvard's total cost of attendance is $300k, whatever they don't spend on college they get in cash.

would Lehigh really be worth $200k in cash to a HS kid over attending his state flagship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114081)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

The college scam will have long since blown up by then

Atudent loan bubble will burst in the next decade which will force the government 's hand and institute reforms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114158)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: puce hospital

UVA oos tuition is $43k. Michigan looks to have tuition of like $47-50k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114043)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: zippy doobsian hell

UVA/Mich are both like 30 instate so 80% of Berkeley. Even fucking TTTexas is 25k. UNC is 8. Brb moving to NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114044)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: zippy doobsian hell

Lol wut? UVA is 30% oos. And the in state population are mainly gigastrivers from the DC suburbs who are generic GC-brainwashed UMC future betas just like every other top 25 UG. UVA is fine oos if you want to pay 60k a year. Texas I agree with bc it’s like 93% Texans and it’s now stupidly expensive oos. Back in my day they used to give out instate tuition like candy and out of state was absurdly cheap so it made more sense then. But their faggot tea partier Aggie-dominated state lege killed all that off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114108)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

(Not Carson Wentz)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113821)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: 180 forum pisswyrm

I think ND and Georgetown are great for Catholicmos. I'm not impressed by Rice or Emory, but I'm also not impressed by the STEM flame. I don't care for JHU.

There's also something really sad about Vandy, USC, and CMU.

I think all of these second-rate private schools offer full schollys, so that's consolation.

But I'm a New Yorker. I'd feel bad sending my stupid kid to rot in Binghamton. Maybe just do 4.0 at CUNY and CCN with no scholly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113435)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: puce hospital

of the remaining top 25, i'm trying to think where i wouldn't want to send my hypothetical kid

Definitely wouldn't be excited about Wash, Emory, Rice, Berkeley, or Carnegie Mellon

Borderline schools would be Hopkins, Notre Dame, UCLA, USC, maybe Vandy, maybe Brown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113484)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: 180 forum pisswyrm

Aren't Berkeley and UCLA 70,000 per year for out of staters?

My 4.0/22XXmo cousin is going to UVA, and it's 60,000/y for OOSers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113495)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: puce hospital

not that much but pretty expensive. i'd never tell my kid to go to either. would much prefer UVA, UMich, UNC even

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113506)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: 180 forum pisswyrm

Berkeley total COA for OOSers is 64,000:

https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

UVA is great, and so is Michigan. UNC's academic rep doesn't match, IMO. It bothers me that there are so many coastal Jews at Mich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113559)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: puce hospital

Oy gevalt!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113577)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: 180 forum pisswyrm

The goyim know, shut it down!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113616)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Appetizing chapel psychic

state flagship for NY is basically cornell tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113823)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: Appetizing chapel psychic

ti,oc,tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113795)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: grizzly domesticated corner

Some deathcamp in a sulfur mine. It really doesn't matter what non elite ppl do with their "lives"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113423)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Garnet Mind-boggling Factory Reset Button

You’re a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113443)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: puce hospital

whoa, this will really cause me to re-evaluate my poasting. thanks breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113463)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Garnet Mind-boggling Factory Reset Button

Whoa you’re a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114092)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: know-it-all nudist gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113574)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

I think there's a clear second tier that includes the other 5 ivies, Duke, Chicago and Northwestern. Also includes Amherst and Williams. 10 years ago I would have probably excluded Chicago from this tier but I think it belongs now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113489)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: puce hospital

Maybe this is colored by me being a NYmo, but back in the day we always found Cornell to be a step behind.

That's not to say I dislike Cornell as a school -- I applied but didn't go -- but it certainly wouldn't have been in that second tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113500)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

I agree with this. It might be wrong (and either way it's 20 years old), but Cornell was viewed as being closer to the misc NYS privates than to, e.g., Brown or Penn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113566)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: 180 forum pisswyrm

RBG went to Cornell, but maybe it was the only good school at the time to take Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113575)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: puce hospital

exactly right

too many state programs and bullshit like guaranteed transfers.

now again, maybe that has changed, but it was always a step behind Columbia, Penn, Dart, Brown. we always had way more kids go to Cornell than to CPDB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113605)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: zippy doobsian hell

This is the national perception. There’s a big gap between Columbia/Penn/Dartmouth and the rest of the ivies. Most cross admits would take duke over Cornell and not just because of the shit weather and likelihood of suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114155)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Hmm, I still think it belongs above all the others not in this tier though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113757)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: puce hospital

Without using the word "Ivy" what does it offer that, say, JHU, Vandy, Georgetown, Berkeley, UVA don't? It doesn't even have the history of most of the other Ivies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113786)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Even if "Ivy" is the only thing, I think people generally do pick it over those other schools in large enough proportion to put it above them. Maybe I'm wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113857)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: puce hospital

We saw it as kind of an Ivy In Name Only.

Plenty of people went there who would have otherwise been at NYU or Binghamton. I can't remember anyone choosing it over that second tier I identified, but that's only my personal recollection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113872)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Yeah, you may be right. But I sort of think super-study Ivy-obsessed Azns may have pushed it up due to dat IVY prestige in the past 15 years?

As a CA-mo in the 90s, it wasn't a popular school. People would go east for the other ivies (over Berkeley/UCLA/USC for sure) but I don't remember a lot of people going to Cornell or even applying.

Also back then Chicago was not a place were top students went - very midrange guys (smart but not the overachiever Ivy or Berkeley type) would go there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113965)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: puce hospital

agreed on Chicago back then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113983)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: shimmering ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114007)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: zippy doobsian hell

That’s the whole joke with Andy Bernard on The Office. It’s that anyone who’s touting Cornell like it’s so much better than eg Haverford is dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114167)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: puce hospital

Yeah, and again I actually like Cornell and think it takes too much shit on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114220)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Charismatic mewling public bath crotch

HYPMSC = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Caltech?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113631)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: puce hospital

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113636)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Lavender swashbuckling theatre digit ratio

Johns Hopkins >>>>>>

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113858)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: House-broken chartreuse institution

Where does Loyola Chicago fit in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113859)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

If you have to ask....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113893)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Appetizing chapel psychic

new yorkers: your unexceptional kids will go to a shit private school live emory or gtown. you'll spend the rest of your life trying to convince yourself its prestigious. then your kids will have unexceptional kids that will go to similar schools and theyll do the same mental gymnastics. and on and on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113915)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: translucent pocket flask lettuce

Outside of the schools in the first tier mentioned, are any of the others a tier down worth it if you don't also have a desire for their region / social life? Meaning, if someone can go to Univ. of Colorado (their flagship state) then would it really make sense to go to furthest Cornell if you thought living in upstate NY would be miserable? I think unless you are getting the top tier, it doesn't make sense to venture across the country and pay close to full freight to go to some place like JHU or Emory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113924)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Totally agree and I think this is the official XO position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113939)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: translucent pocket flask lettuce

Sorry, forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQuK2H0iso

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113956)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Oh fuck I never saw this one.

JFC at 00:20-00:23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113976)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: puce hospital

Ironside-Approved at 0:22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113992)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: translucent pocket flask lettuce

Of course, going to BigState doesn't mean someone that's socially inept is having that sort of lifestyle. Still, even if you're not in a frat, assuming you play intramural/club sports and shit, you'll at minimum get on the periphery of some of the fun and ass featured at the annual Beachapalooza.

LOL @ any of the girls in that video pulling some lib #metoo / he raped me bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113997)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: puce hospital

Not all state flagships are equal though.

Like, fuck my HS self going to SUNY Binghamton.

NY has the fucking worst public universities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114157)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: translucent pocket flask lettuce

True. It's interesting because with the situation re: UC admissions being crazy, a lot of parents here are now discovering Big10 schools. The lady who runs my kid's school has an IU/Kelley B-School sticker on her car; she was so excited to talk about how her son goes there. It's like a novelty to them to discover that a suitably good education can be had in a flyover state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114231)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: puce hospital

and a lot of them are fun too and offer a lot

Big 10/SEC/Pac 12 >>>> Northeast Publics

I mean for God's sake, University of New Hampshire? UMass? URI? Rutgers? Binghamton? Blech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114247)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

In college I would have called some of those girls "ugly." Now...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114006)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:34 PM
Author: puce hospital

who besides the couple ugly azn girls that pop up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114021)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

I was speaking figuratively, but the Asian girls to start.

At this point any non-fat, non-disfigured WG <25 would be tough to pass up. Times have changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114064)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: puce hospital

I go back and forth.

I think money becomes an issue. If you live in Colorado and you're really smart and your parents make too much to get aid, then going to CU Boulder might make sense over paying a shitton for Emory or Notre Dame.

That said, I do think there is some tangible value to those other top 25 schools, but as you said you have to want that kind of a school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113989)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Brass national security agency

This is another reason why getting into one of the top tier is important.

I went to a school mentioned above, and it actually ended up being cheaper than my state flagship because of financial aid (free money/grants, not loans), and my parents aren't poor, very MC. The top schools have yuge endowments (of which they could use more for scholarships if they weren't shelling out millions for "diversity" employees)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114010)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: greedy clear address goal in life

thought this was only true of hypsm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114030)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Brass national security agency

nah, probably moreso there for sure, but there are other schools in the next tier that have very good financial aid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114035)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

HYPSM only give strictly need-based aid though. If your parents make too much, you won't get shit.

Schools on the level of like USC are the ones that give out a lot of merit-based aid in order to move themselves up the rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114144)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: puce hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114148)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

Or you can always go to BAMA virtually for free if you cop a 3.5/1490 in high school.

https://scholarships.ua.edu/types/out-of-state.php

Presidential Scholar

A student with a 33-36 ACT or 1490-1600 SAT score and at least a 3.5 GPA will be selected as a Presidential Scholar and will receive $100,000 over four years ($25,000 per year). Students graduating with remaining scholarship semester(s) may use these monies toward graduate school and/or law school study at UA.

What percentage of students receive a merit-based scholarship offer if they meet the criteria listed?

All students who meet the criteria will receive an automatic scholarship offer if the student has been admitted by the December 15 deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114066)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

I've mentioned this to my wife as a plan b for our kid. Did you poast it before? Not a terrible option. They cool with hapas there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114080)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: puce hospital

i'm sure some of the Bama chads will be more than happy to hang with her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114091)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114120)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: translucent pocket flask lettuce

I was an OOS Presidential scholar at my undergrad; correct on school being virtually free. My parents probably shelled out less than $20k over four years (used to send me ~$500/month as spending money) which in light of what a SEMESTER of college costs now is insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114114)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Tantric Reading Party Area

i went to Big StaTTTe fagship and have regretted it all of my life.

but i would prolly suck regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114107)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Motley Dopamine Crackhouse

What were your other options?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114129)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

HYPS

MC

CPDD

Annapolis/West Point/Colorado Springs

State Flagship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114134)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: puce hospital

The Military academies take a special person though. It's not really an option for most kids.

My brother went to Annapolis and didn't finish. Hated it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114146)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

Yeah fair but that's the ranking I'll have for my kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114160)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: puce hospital

Okay so let's use a real-world example where you live in Larchmont NY with your family.

Your son gets into Northwestern, Brown and Vandy but none of the schools you have ranked above it. He doesn't want to go the academy route.

Are you really going to tell him to go to Binghamton?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114179)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

No, I'm not living in Larchmont

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114182)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: puce hospital

Darien/UConn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114189)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: wild contagious legend sound barrier

More like UF or FSU by that point in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114202)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: puce hospital

Ungh, okay fair enough

Enjoy Palm Beach!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114208)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: shimmering ceo

(proud parent of a Huskie)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114201)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: narrow-minded idea he suggested lay

Curtis

....

CalTech

...

other decent schools (HYP)

...

Everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114159)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: soggy cracking church associate

Whatever the second tier is, WUSTL isn't in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114185)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Erotic amethyst senate chad

Strong contender for most AZN thread of the week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114197)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: Cerebral death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114251)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: puce hospital

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114258)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: glassy laser beams box office

cooper union & olin college of engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36115938)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner

my kids would definitely be allowed to go to cooper union

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130344)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: anal international law enforcement agency

ITT: asians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36116290)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Fishy lodge love of her life

cr. SHOCKED op isnt a gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36119997)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: puce hospital

?? i'm Chinese

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120003)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Fishy lodge love of her life

OUTED!!

https://rafaelnadalfans.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/rafael-nadal-poses-with-a-fan-in-beijing-2015.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120017)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: puce hospital

That was a while ago breh; I've grown 3 inches since then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120030)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: boyish trailer park karate

If your parents make a decent living....any big ten, pac 12, acc school on the list. For what ever major you pick, probably objectively ranked above what you chose above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130349)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Wonderful charcoal stag film

really shocked OP wasnt JJC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130481)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 5:16 AM
Author: passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner

i mean, it didn't say HYPSP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130483)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 6:04 AM
Author: boyish trailer park karate

For undergrad, he didnt make that lower ivy either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130513)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Drab Keepsake Machete Indian Lodge

top 10 not complicated, really:

CaPM > SH >>> ChCo > YPeBe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131047)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: passionate alcoholic coldplay fan partner

weirdest and most retarded post in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131684)