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We all agree that HYPMSC are the top universities, but where is the next cutoff?

After HYPMSC, the following are in US News' top 25: Chica...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
agree that CCPDDNB are a tier above the rest prestige-wise.
rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center
  05/23/18
any additions or subtractions from that list?
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Delete Chicago. Nobody should go there
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Chicago is a solid school
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Bill Gates' kid is.
electric black main people station
  05/23/18
Aspies in a school full of aspies? Floored
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Georgetown. National prestige factor due to proximity to po...
cream glittery home
  05/23/18
I can see the argument
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
the first time I even heard of Georgetown was as a teen watc...
Curious associate stage
  05/23/18
he makes it to Georgetown tho! and picks up his porn star gf...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
yeah nice feelgood movie
Curious associate stage
  05/23/18
LJFL Total lightweight school, majority female, no engine...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Does ND pwn it? I have no idea, but I'd look at them as peer...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/24/18
lol at anyone taking georgeTTTown seriously
adventurous orchestra pit
  05/26/18
At that point you just save the money and go to flagship sta...
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Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
meh, idk. depends on the state. would you really go to th...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
u have a pt here. if you're in a big state though, better to...
twisted motley coldplay fan
  05/23/18
yes, but uva is in the list in the OP and UT is one of the s...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
wouldnt recommend uva to a non virgina dweller tho, or UT to...
twisted motley coldplay fan
  05/23/18
perhaps i don't mind the top publics oos, but depends on ...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Which top publics are still any cheaper than a private schoo...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Michigan OOS COA: $62,176 (tuition & fees: $47,476 of ...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
Aaaaahaahahahahaha
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Yes, but some day this is going to be our problem.
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
only if you let it
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
I will keep the bort apprised. Only 14 more years.
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
one thing i've thought of doing is taking an amount of cash ...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
The college scam will have long since blown up by then At...
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
UVA oos tuition is $43k. Michigan looks to have tuition of l...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
UVA/Mich are both like 30 instate so 80% of Berkeley. Even ...
cream glittery home
  05/23/18
Lol wut? UVA is 30% oos. And the in state population are ma...
cream glittery home
  05/23/18
(Not Carson Wentz)
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
I think ND and Georgetown are great for Catholicmos. I'm not...
Amber affirmative action boistinker
  05/23/18
of the remaining top 25, i'm trying to think where i wouldn'...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Aren't Berkeley and UCLA 70,000 per year for out of staters?...
Amber affirmative action boistinker
  05/23/18
not that much but pretty expensive. i'd never tell my kid to...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Berkeley total COA for OOSers is 64,000: https://financia...
Amber affirmative action boistinker
  05/23/18
Oy gevalt!
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
The goyim know, shut it down!
Amber affirmative action boistinker
  05/23/18
state flagship for NY is basically cornell tho
twisted motley coldplay fan
  05/23/18
ti,oc,tcr
twisted motley coldplay fan
  05/23/18
Some deathcamp in a sulfur mine. It really doesn't matter wh...
Self-centered exciting becky
  05/23/18
You’re a faggot
Diverse Lilac Parlor Patrolman
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whoa, this will really cause me to re-evaluate my poasting. ...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
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Whoa you’re a faggot
Diverse Lilac Parlor Patrolman
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exhilarant church building
  05/23/18
I think there's a clear second tier that includes the other ...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Maybe this is colored by me being a NYmo, but back in the da...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
I agree with this. It might be wrong (and either way it's 2...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
RBG went to Cornell, but maybe it was the only good school a...
Amber affirmative action boistinker
  05/23/18
exactly right too many state programs and bullshit like g...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
This is the national perception. There’s a big gap between ...
cream glittery home
  05/23/18
Hmm, I still think it belongs above all the others not in th...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Without using the word "Ivy" what does it offer th...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Even if "Ivy" is the only thing, I think people ge...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
We saw it as kind of an Ivy In Name Only. Plenty of peopl...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Yeah, you may be right. But I sort of think super-study Ivy...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
agreed on Chicago back then
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
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...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
That’s the whole joke with Andy Bernard on The Office. It’s...
cream glittery home
  05/23/18
Yeah, and again I actually like Cornell and think it takes t...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
HYPMSC = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Caltech?
abnormal stage codepig
  05/23/18
yeah
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Johns Hopkins >>>>>>
costumed indirect expression
  05/23/18
Where does Loyola Chicago fit in?
charismatic red range
  05/23/18
If you have to ask....
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
new yorkers: your unexceptional kids will go to a shit priva...
twisted motley coldplay fan
  05/23/18
Outside of the schools in the first tier mentioned, are any ...
Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook
  05/23/18
Totally agree and I think this is the official XO position.
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Sorry, forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld...
Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook
  05/23/18
Oh fuck I never saw this one. JFC at 00:20-00:23
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
Ironside-Approved at 0:22
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Of course, going to BigState doesn't mean someone that's soc...
Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook
  05/23/18
Not all state flagships are equal though. Like, fuck my H...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
True. It's interesting because with the situation re: UC adm...
Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook
  05/23/18
and a lot of them are fun too and offer a lot Big 10/SEC/...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
In college I would have called some of those girls "ugl...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
who besides the couple ugly azn girls that pop up?
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
I was speaking figuratively, but the Asian girls to start. ...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
I go back and forth. I think money becomes an issue. If y...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
This is another reason why getting into one of the top tier ...
Curious associate stage
  05/23/18
thought this was only true of hypsm
hyperactive angry turdskin therapy
  05/23/18
nah, probably moreso there for sure, but there are other sch...
Curious associate stage
  05/23/18
HYPSM only give strictly need-based aid though. If your par...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Or you can always go to BAMA virtually for free if you cop a...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
I've mentioned this to my wife as a plan b for our kid. Did...
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
i'm sure some of the Bama chads will be more than happy to h...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
...
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
I was an OOS Presidential scholar at my undergrad; correct o...
Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook
  05/23/18
i went to Big StaTTTe fagship and have regretted it all of m...
blue gay wizard senate
  05/23/18
What were your other options?
frisky bespoke address mad cow disease
  05/23/18
HYPS MC CPDD Annapolis/West Point/Colorado Springs State...
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
The Military academies take a special person though. It's no...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
Yeah fair but that's the ranking I'll have for my kids
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Okay so let's use a real-world example where you live in Lar...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
No, I'm not living in Larchmont
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Darien/UConn
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
More like UF or FSU by that point in life
Contagious orange locale
  05/23/18
Ungh, okay fair enough Enjoy Palm Beach!
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
(proud parent of a Huskie)
crystalline native lettuce
  05/23/18
Curtis .... CalTech ... other decent schools (HYP) ......
self-absorbed zippy brethren laser beams
  05/23/18
Whatever the second tier is, WUSTL isn't in it.
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  05/23/18
Strong contender for most AZN thread of the week
Sapphire mind-boggling really tough guy
  05/23/18
...
beady-eyed cordovan striped hyena
  05/23/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/23/18
cooper union & olin college of engineering
sienna cuckold
  05/23/18
my kids would definitely be allowed to go to cooper union
rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center
  05/26/18
ITT: asians
jet stain
  05/23/18
cr. SHOCKED op isnt a gook
Deep Hospital People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/18
?? i'm Chinese http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_i...
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/24/18
OUTED!! https://rafaelnadalfans.files.wordpress.com/2015/...
Deep Hospital People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/18
That was a while ago breh; I've grown 3 inches since then
Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish
  05/24/18
If your parents make a decent living....any big ten, pac 12,...
irradiated dark location
  05/26/18
really shocked OP wasnt JJC
Titillating Plum Fortuitous Meteor
  05/26/18
i mean, it didn't say HYPSP
rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center
  05/26/18
For undergrad, he didnt make that lower ivy either
irradiated dark location
  05/26/18
top 10 not complicated, really: CaPM > SH >>>...
Splenetic effete bawdyhouse party of the first part
  05/26/18
weirdest and most retarded post in this thread
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  05/26/18


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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

After HYPMSC, the following are in US News' top 25:

Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Hopkins, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Rice, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Emory, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Carnegie Mellon, UVA

Is there a cutoff in that group?

In some respects I find them pretty equivalent, though I personally could see arguments for some or all of the following being in a distinct tier: Chicago, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown

Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113286)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center

agree that CCPDDNB are a tier above the rest prestige-wise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113405)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

any additions or subtractions from that list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113407)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

Delete Chicago. Nobody should go there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113412)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Chicago is a solid school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113430)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: electric black main people station

Bill Gates' kid is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113675)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

Aspies in a school full of aspies? Floored

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113804)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: cream glittery home

Georgetown. National prestige factor due to proximity to power and political celebrities cycling out of government into there. Translates to pop culture e.g. Tracy Flick “wins” high school striver race and that’s her prize. Also SoFP as an elite signifier is real. Famous alumni with prestige level that blows away most of the rest of this list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114023)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

I can see the argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114049)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Curious associate stage

the first time I even heard of Georgetown was as a teen watching that movie The Girl Next Door about the "smart" main character gunning for a scholarship there and getting derailed by a porn star lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114096)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

he makes it to Georgetown tho! and picks up his porn star gf in a BMW too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114136)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Curious associate stage

yeah nice feelgood movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114147)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

LJFL

Total lightweight school, majority female, no engineering, terrible STEM, mainly known for its soft-subject grad schools (law and policy), not even the best Catholic school (ND pwns it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36116353)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Does ND pwn it? I have no idea, but I'd look at them as peers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120035)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: adventurous orchestra pit

lol at anyone taking georgeTTTown seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131651)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Thirsty area double fault

At that point you just save the money and go to flagship state U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113315)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113330)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

meh, idk. depends on the state.

would you really go to the University of North Dakota over Duke? Is the dropoff between Yale and Duke that big?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113347)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: twisted motley coldplay fan

u have a pt here. if you're in a big state though, better to do flagship. utttexas or uva will get u just as far as columbia or brown most of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113813)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

yes, but uva is in the list in the OP and UT is one of the schools just outside it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113819)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: twisted motley coldplay fan

wouldnt recommend uva to a non virgina dweller tho, or UT to a non texan. that's the diff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113832)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

perhaps

i don't mind the top publics oos, but depends on the price.

certainly they're not the bargains oos that they were when i was in HS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113855)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:33 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Which top publics are still any cheaper than a private school for OOS?

The UCs aren't. UNC is I think. Not sure about Michigan/UVA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114019)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

Michigan OOS COA: $62,176 (tuition & fees: $47,476 of that)

UVA OOS COA: $61,994 (tuition & fees: $46,634 of that)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114028)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

Aaaaahaahahahahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114034)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

Yes, but some day this is going to be our problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114040)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:39 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

only if you let it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114051)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

I will keep the bort apprised. Only 14 more years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114065)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

one thing i've thought of doing is taking an amount of cash equal to Harvard's total cost of attendance for 4 years and offering that to my kids either for school or in cash (with a few strings on the cash)

so, e.g., if Harvard's total cost of attendance is $300k, whatever they don't spend on college they get in cash.

would Lehigh really be worth $200k in cash to a HS kid over attending his state flagship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114081)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

The college scam will have long since blown up by then

Atudent loan bubble will burst in the next decade which will force the government 's hand and institute reforms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114158)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

UVA oos tuition is $43k. Michigan looks to have tuition of like $47-50k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114043)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: cream glittery home

UVA/Mich are both like 30 instate so 80% of Berkeley. Even fucking TTTexas is 25k. UNC is 8. Brb moving to NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114044)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: cream glittery home

Lol wut? UVA is 30% oos. And the in state population are mainly gigastrivers from the DC suburbs who are generic GC-brainwashed UMC future betas just like every other top 25 UG. UVA is fine oos if you want to pay 60k a year. Texas I agree with bc it’s like 93% Texans and it’s now stupidly expensive oos. Back in my day they used to give out instate tuition like candy and out of state was absurdly cheap so it made more sense then. But their faggot tea partier Aggie-dominated state lege killed all that off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114108)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

(Not Carson Wentz)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113821)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Amber affirmative action boistinker

I think ND and Georgetown are great for Catholicmos. I'm not impressed by Rice or Emory, but I'm also not impressed by the STEM flame. I don't care for JHU.

There's also something really sad about Vandy, USC, and CMU.

I think all of these second-rate private schools offer full schollys, so that's consolation.

But I'm a New Yorker. I'd feel bad sending my stupid kid to rot in Binghamton. Maybe just do 4.0 at CUNY and CCN with no scholly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113435)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

of the remaining top 25, i'm trying to think where i wouldn't want to send my hypothetical kid

Definitely wouldn't be excited about Wash, Emory, Rice, Berkeley, or Carnegie Mellon

Borderline schools would be Hopkins, Notre Dame, UCLA, USC, maybe Vandy, maybe Brown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113484)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Amber affirmative action boistinker

Aren't Berkeley and UCLA 70,000 per year for out of staters?

My 4.0/22XXmo cousin is going to UVA, and it's 60,000/y for OOSers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113495)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

not that much but pretty expensive. i'd never tell my kid to go to either. would much prefer UVA, UMich, UNC even

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113506)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Amber affirmative action boistinker

Berkeley total COA for OOSers is 64,000:

https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

UVA is great, and so is Michigan. UNC's academic rep doesn't match, IMO. It bothers me that there are so many coastal Jews at Mich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113559)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Oy gevalt!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113577)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Amber affirmative action boistinker

The goyim know, shut it down!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113616)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: twisted motley coldplay fan

state flagship for NY is basically cornell tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113823)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: twisted motley coldplay fan

ti,oc,tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113795)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Self-centered exciting becky

Some deathcamp in a sulfur mine. It really doesn't matter what non elite ppl do with their "lives"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113423)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Diverse Lilac Parlor Patrolman

You’re a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113443)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

whoa, this will really cause me to re-evaluate my poasting. thanks breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113463)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Diverse Lilac Parlor Patrolman

Whoa you’re a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114092)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: exhilarant church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113574)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

I think there's a clear second tier that includes the other 5 ivies, Duke, Chicago and Northwestern. Also includes Amherst and Williams. 10 years ago I would have probably excluded Chicago from this tier but I think it belongs now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113489)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Maybe this is colored by me being a NYmo, but back in the day we always found Cornell to be a step behind.

That's not to say I dislike Cornell as a school -- I applied but didn't go -- but it certainly wouldn't have been in that second tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113500)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

I agree with this. It might be wrong (and either way it's 20 years old), but Cornell was viewed as being closer to the misc NYS privates than to, e.g., Brown or Penn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113566)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Amber affirmative action boistinker

RBG went to Cornell, but maybe it was the only good school at the time to take Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113575)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

exactly right

too many state programs and bullshit like guaranteed transfers.

now again, maybe that has changed, but it was always a step behind Columbia, Penn, Dart, Brown. we always had way more kids go to Cornell than to CPDB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113605)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: cream glittery home

This is the national perception. There’s a big gap between Columbia/Penn/Dartmouth and the rest of the ivies. Most cross admits would take duke over Cornell and not just because of the shit weather and likelihood of suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114155)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Hmm, I still think it belongs above all the others not in this tier though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113757)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Without using the word "Ivy" what does it offer that, say, JHU, Vandy, Georgetown, Berkeley, UVA don't? It doesn't even have the history of most of the other Ivies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113786)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Even if "Ivy" is the only thing, I think people generally do pick it over those other schools in large enough proportion to put it above them. Maybe I'm wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113857)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

We saw it as kind of an Ivy In Name Only.

Plenty of people went there who would have otherwise been at NYU or Binghamton. I can't remember anyone choosing it over that second tier I identified, but that's only my personal recollection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113872)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Yeah, you may be right. But I sort of think super-study Ivy-obsessed Azns may have pushed it up due to dat IVY prestige in the past 15 years?

As a CA-mo in the 90s, it wasn't a popular school. People would go east for the other ivies (over Berkeley/UCLA/USC for sure) but I don't remember a lot of people going to Cornell or even applying.

Also back then Chicago was not a place were top students went - very midrange guys (smart but not the overachiever Ivy or Berkeley type) would go there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113965)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

agreed on Chicago back then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113983)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114007)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: cream glittery home

That’s the whole joke with Andy Bernard on The Office. It’s that anyone who’s touting Cornell like it’s so much better than eg Haverford is dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114167)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Yeah, and again I actually like Cornell and think it takes too much shit on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114220)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: abnormal stage codepig

HYPMSC = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Caltech?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113631)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113636)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: costumed indirect expression

Johns Hopkins >>>>>>

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113858)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: charismatic red range

Where does Loyola Chicago fit in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113859)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

If you have to ask....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113893)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: twisted motley coldplay fan

new yorkers: your unexceptional kids will go to a shit private school live emory or gtown. you'll spend the rest of your life trying to convince yourself its prestigious. then your kids will have unexceptional kids that will go to similar schools and theyll do the same mental gymnastics. and on and on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113915)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook

Outside of the schools in the first tier mentioned, are any of the others a tier down worth it if you don't also have a desire for their region / social life? Meaning, if someone can go to Univ. of Colorado (their flagship state) then would it really make sense to go to furthest Cornell if you thought living in upstate NY would be miserable? I think unless you are getting the top tier, it doesn't make sense to venture across the country and pay close to full freight to go to some place like JHU or Emory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113924)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Totally agree and I think this is the official XO position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113939)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook

Sorry, forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQuK2H0iso

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113956)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Oh fuck I never saw this one.

JFC at 00:20-00:23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113976)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Ironside-Approved at 0:22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113992)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:29 PM
Author: Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook

Of course, going to BigState doesn't mean someone that's socially inept is having that sort of lifestyle. Still, even if you're not in a frat, assuming you play intramural/club sports and shit, you'll at minimum get on the periphery of some of the fun and ass featured at the annual Beachapalooza.

LOL @ any of the girls in that video pulling some lib #metoo / he raped me bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113997)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Not all state flagships are equal though.

Like, fuck my HS self going to SUNY Binghamton.

NY has the fucking worst public universities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114157)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook

True. It's interesting because with the situation re: UC admissions being crazy, a lot of parents here are now discovering Big10 schools. The lady who runs my kid's school has an IU/Kelley B-School sticker on her car; she was so excited to talk about how her son goes there. It's like a novelty to them to discover that a suitably good education can be had in a flyover state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114231)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

and a lot of them are fun too and offer a lot

Big 10/SEC/Pac 12 >>>> Northeast Publics

I mean for God's sake, University of New Hampshire? UMass? URI? Rutgers? Binghamton? Blech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114247)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

In college I would have called some of those girls "ugly." Now...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114006)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:34 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

who besides the couple ugly azn girls that pop up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114021)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

I was speaking figuratively, but the Asian girls to start.

At this point any non-fat, non-disfigured WG <25 would be tough to pass up. Times have changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114064)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

I go back and forth.

I think money becomes an issue. If you live in Colorado and you're really smart and your parents make too much to get aid, then going to CU Boulder might make sense over paying a shitton for Emory or Notre Dame.

That said, I do think there is some tangible value to those other top 25 schools, but as you said you have to want that kind of a school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36113989)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:31 PM
Author: Curious associate stage

This is another reason why getting into one of the top tier is important.

I went to a school mentioned above, and it actually ended up being cheaper than my state flagship because of financial aid (free money/grants, not loans), and my parents aren't poor, very MC. The top schools have yuge endowments (of which they could use more for scholarships if they weren't shelling out millions for "diversity" employees)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114010)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: hyperactive angry turdskin therapy

thought this was only true of hypsm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114030)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: Curious associate stage

nah, probably moreso there for sure, but there are other schools in the next tier that have very good financial aid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114035)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

HYPSM only give strictly need-based aid though. If your parents make too much, you won't get shit.

Schools on the level of like USC are the ones that give out a lot of merit-based aid in order to move themselves up the rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114144)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114148)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

Or you can always go to BAMA virtually for free if you cop a 3.5/1490 in high school.

https://scholarships.ua.edu/types/out-of-state.php

Presidential Scholar

A student with a 33-36 ACT or 1490-1600 SAT score and at least a 3.5 GPA will be selected as a Presidential Scholar and will receive $100,000 over four years ($25,000 per year). Students graduating with remaining scholarship semester(s) may use these monies toward graduate school and/or law school study at UA.

What percentage of students receive a merit-based scholarship offer if they meet the criteria listed?

All students who meet the criteria will receive an automatic scholarship offer if the student has been admitted by the December 15 deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114066)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

I've mentioned this to my wife as a plan b for our kid. Did you poast it before? Not a terrible option. They cool with hapas there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114080)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

i'm sure some of the Bama chads will be more than happy to hang with her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114091)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114120)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Confused Stag Film Travel Guidebook

I was an OOS Presidential scholar at my undergrad; correct on school being virtually free. My parents probably shelled out less than $20k over four years (used to send me ~$500/month as spending money) which in light of what a SEMESTER of college costs now is insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114114)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: blue gay wizard senate

i went to Big StaTTTe fagship and have regretted it all of my life.

but i would prolly suck regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114107)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: frisky bespoke address mad cow disease

What were your other options?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114129)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

HYPS

MC

CPDD

Annapolis/West Point/Colorado Springs

State Flagship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114134)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

The Military academies take a special person though. It's not really an option for most kids.

My brother went to Annapolis and didn't finish. Hated it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114146)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

Yeah fair but that's the ranking I'll have for my kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114160)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Okay so let's use a real-world example where you live in Larchmont NY with your family.

Your son gets into Northwestern, Brown and Vandy but none of the schools you have ranked above it. He doesn't want to go the academy route.

Are you really going to tell him to go to Binghamton?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114179)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

No, I'm not living in Larchmont

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114182)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Darien/UConn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114189)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Contagious orange locale

More like UF or FSU by that point in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114202)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

Ungh, okay fair enough

Enjoy Palm Beach!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114208)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: crystalline native lettuce

(proud parent of a Huskie)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114201)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: self-absorbed zippy brethren laser beams

Curtis

....

CalTech

...

other decent schools (HYP)

...

Everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114159)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Brass trailer park filthpig

Whatever the second tier is, WUSTL isn't in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114185)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Sapphire mind-boggling really tough guy

Strong contender for most AZN thread of the week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114197)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: beady-eyed cordovan striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114251)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36114258)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: sienna cuckold

cooper union & olin college of engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36115938)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center

my kids would definitely be allowed to go to cooper union

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130344)



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Date: May 23rd, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: jet stain

ITT: asians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36116290)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Deep Hospital People Who Are Hurt

cr. SHOCKED op isnt a gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36119997)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

?? i'm Chinese

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980291&mc=4&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120003)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Deep Hospital People Who Are Hurt

OUTED!!

https://rafaelnadalfans.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/rafael-nadal-poses-with-a-fan-in-beijing-2015.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120017)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Idiotic Rusted Menage Death Wish

That was a while ago breh; I've grown 3 inches since then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36120030)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: irradiated dark location

If your parents make a decent living....any big ten, pac 12, acc school on the list. For what ever major you pick, probably objectively ranked above what you chose above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130349)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Titillating Plum Fortuitous Meteor

really shocked OP wasnt JJC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130481)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 5:16 AM
Author: rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center

i mean, it didn't say HYPSP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130483)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 6:04 AM
Author: irradiated dark location

For undergrad, he didnt make that lower ivy either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36130513)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Splenetic effete bawdyhouse party of the first part

top 10 not complicated, really:

CaPM > SH >>> ChCo > YPeBe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131047)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: rebellious salmon twinkling uncleanness center

weirdest and most retarded post in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3984748&forum_id=2#36131684)