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WSJ tears down ESPN's drift to politics in lengthy expose

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vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin
  05/24/18
FUCK ESPN
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  05/24/18
wsj has truly pulled away to become the premier news media
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  05/24/18
They always were
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It's pretty impressive. They are so solidly objective on the...
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  05/24/18
yeah i'm hesitant to say that they're "actually practic...
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  05/24/18
Worth getting a subscription to WSJ?
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  05/24/18
it's $40/year. yes
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  05/24/18
Ty. Link?
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  05/24/18
dude, cmon. giving "journalists" money is just pla...
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To be fair, That doesn't need to be true in 2018, and it ...
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my usual plug - if you hae an .edu address you can subscribe...
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Yea I am goint to do this
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they still publish too many discredited neocons from the bus...
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op-eds totally walled off dood
vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin
  05/24/18
They have paywalls, so they can afford to be objective
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Noam Chomsky always said WSJ was the best because big swingi...
filthy station
  05/24/18
good read
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  05/24/18
"Mr. Skipper sought to promote progressive social value...
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It's the network's highest honor, the biggest sports network...
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  05/24/18
yes, it's an MTV award. also not prestigious
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  05/24/18
MTV awards were semi-prestigious back in the day.
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they were always a tongue-in-cheek hoot, a way for athletes ...
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this too was taken by libs
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what can the word "but" be doing in this sentence?...
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You can be progressive without being "political." ...
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  05/24/18
very cr and one of the worse things about libs
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idk. for me, once you're supporting *progressive* values, yo...
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No. There's a difference between making Mary Barra CEO of GM...
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lol Tensions boiled over with the controversy over Ms. Hi...
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Im not sure if these shitlibs will ever change their thinkin...
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Jfc libs
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deadspin is like exhibit a of a good sports blog that turned...
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I think article correctly identifies ESPN's shift to shitlib...
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Date: May 24th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

C&P doesn't do justice, there are incredible charts

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-weakened-espn-became-consumed-by-politics-1527176425

John Skipper was furious.

One of his star anchors, Jemele Hill, had sent a tweet calling President Donald Trump a “white supremacist.” Mr. Trump’s supporters called for her to be fired. Prominent black athletes defended the anchor, who is African-American.

Sitting in his office last September, Mr. Skipper, then ESPN’s president, lit into Ms. Hill, according to people familiar with the meeting. If I punish you, he told her, I’d open us up to protests and come off as racist. If I do nothing, that will fuel a narrative among conservatives—and a faction within ESPN—that the network had become too liberal.

Mr. Skipper chose to spare Ms. Hill. Mr. Trump weighed in on Twitter : “ESPN is paying a really big price for its politics (and bad programming). People are dumping it in RECORD numbers.”

The president’s tweet was hyperbolic, but it tapped into real anxiety at ESPN. What was the way forward for a company shaken to its foundations by the cord-cutting revolution?

Executives at the sports-media giant wanted to seek out new audiences by spicing up shows with opinionated analysis and debate, including on SportsCenter, its struggling news and highlights franchise.

But the amount and intensity of political expression generated sharp internal disagreements over whether ESPN was appropriately taking part in the broader national conversation, or whether top executives were encouraging a divisive company culture and giving too much leeway to hosts to promote left-leaning views, both on air and on social media.

Well before Ms. Hill’s tweet controversy, network icon Bob Ley had approached Mr. Skipper to say “there was a problem with balance internally,” people familiar with the matter said. Reached for comment, Mr. Ley said Mr. Skipper “was always extremely receptive.”

Linda Cohn, one of ESPN’s most prominent female anchors, in April 2017 gave a radio interview opining that ESPN’s politics were pushing away viewers and the network had overpaid for NBA rights. Mr. Skipper called to berate her on both counts, people familiar with the call said.

Why ESPN found itself torn up by the nation’s partisan politics traces back to its fundamental business challenge. Its status as cable TV’s most expensive channel had become a liability. As consumers grew fed up with their monthly cable prices, big cable distributors began offering discounted packages that didn’t include the network. Many consumers opted for those offers, while others cut the cord entirely, leading ESPN to shed 16 million subscribers over seven years.

At the same time, costs have ballooned, especially for vital live sports rights. Average annual payments tied to ESPN’s four biggest, long-term rights deals have more than doubled since 2013 to $4.7 billion. After years of growth, ESPN’s profit declined in the fiscal year that ended in September 2017, people familiar with its finances said. Declines have continued for the two ensuing quarters. ESPN has laid off some 600 employees over the past several years, including well-known hosts, though it has hired in areas such as technology and data.

ESPN’s relationship with majority-owner Walt Disney Co. DIS -0.74% grew tense as the once reliable profit engine turned into a public headache, people close to the situation said. A recent management shake-up gave Disney a chance to exert more control. Mr. Skipper departed suddenly in December, citing a substance-abuse issue. He later said someone from whom he bought cocaine had tried to extort him.

Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger installed as his replacement James Pitaro, Disney’s former consumer products and digital chief. Mr. Pitaro has promised to expand ESPN’s audience by targeting younger and casual fans, including with a new streaming service launched last month. He believes ESPN leaned too much into politics and that has influenced how the company was perceived, a person close to ESPN said. He has encouraged its programs to return to news and highlights and move away from opinionated commentary.

Mr. Pitaro has said that despite the political debates roiling the network last year, total day ratings were up 1% in 2017 from the previous year, in a largely bleak cable-TV landscape.

ESPN has struck new deals with some cable companies ensuring it gets a share of the monthly bills paid by at least 85% of their subscribers, regardless of how many sign up for packages that include ESPN, people familiar with the terms said. And it has added back 2.4 million subscribers thanks to growth in the past few years from new streaming cable TV services such as Hulu and Sling TV.

An ESPN spokesperson said the company’s momentum is strong.

Several network employees said the company has turned a corner. “When you know that there are dark days coming, it wears on folks collectively,” said ESPN’s late-night SportsCenter anchor Scott Van Pelt, about morale in the past during rounds of layoffs. But more recently, under Mr. Pitaro, “there is a sense that those days are in the rearview,” he said.

Others are jaded after budget cuts and job losses, according to interviews with current and former staffers. “I think the morale there is probably as bad as I’ve seen it in my 22-year tenure,” said Jeannine Edwards, a longtime on-air reporter who retired in December.

Other workplace culture issues have surfaced. Some female staffers were aghast when the network launched a show last fall with Barstool Sports, even after some prominent hosts privately expressed concerns to executives that the outlet’s content was sexist and offensive, according to people familiar with the conversations. ESPN canceled the program after the outcry became public.

More recently, a producer filed a human resources complaint that ESPN wasn’t doing enough to promote women and minorities in production, and the network has interviewed several people who work on SportsCenter, according to people familiar with the situation. ESPN declined to comment on the investigation.

‘Flat-earthers’

Turmoil in the sports powerhouse’s business traces back to a spring day in 2014. Disney had invited about 100 analysts and investors to ESPN’s headquarters in Bristol, Conn., to hobnob with talent including tennis legend John McEnroe and show off ESPN’s new, $150-million-plus production facility.

In an unusual move, Disney gave long-term financial guidance for its cable networks division, largely powered by ESPN. It was rosy. ESPN’s research department presented data arguing cord-cutting was unlikely to become widespread, according to attendees.

“They were flat-earthers,” said one former ESPN executive.

At the same time, ESPN was spending aggressively. The company agreed to triple the fees it would pay the NBA, which it believes is growing in popularity. On the talent side, Mr. Skipper closely managed negotiations, desiring to beat back rivals like Fox Sports 1 and NBC Sports. Agents, former ESPN executives and hosts said that led him to overpay for several on-air personalities.

By 2015, it became clear the research staff was off base, as ESPN’s subscriber losses accelerated beyond internal projections. That August, Mr. Iger lowered the company’s earlier financial guidance, causing a stock selloff that lopped more than $20 billion off Disney’s market value that week.

Mr. Iger expressed reservations to Mr. Skipper about ESPN’s programming. SportsCenter was flooding the airwaves with many editions and he said it wasn’t distinguishing itself, a person familiar with the conversation said.

ESPN and Disney’s finance teams began to quarrel over budgets as the network was told to find cuts, people familiar with the matter said.

ESPN shaved spending, including by producing games remotely without announcers on site, but changing the culture was challenging. In 2015 the network spent lavishly to beef up its “SportsCenter on the Road” segments, including by pouring over $2 million into programming surrounding the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao boxing match, well above initial projections internally, people familiar with the situation said.

For some staffers that became a symbol of excess. Rob King, the executive in charge of SportsCenter at the time, appointed a senior producer to monitor budgets closely after the episode, the people said. A person close to ESPN disputed that spending on the fight overshot internal projections.

Some current and former employees said bloated contracts for talent weighed the company down and led to layoffs. ESPN is still paying many hosts, including former NFL reporter Ed Werder, who were on multiyear contracts when they were laid off more than a year ago.

A new morning talk show that launched last month, “Get Up,” costs far more than its predecessor, a SportsCenter morning edition, and is underperforming it in ratings. Payments to the show’s talent total some $15 million a year, with co-host Mike Greenberg making $6.5 million, people familiar with the costs said. Midlevel SportsCenter hosts tend to earn less than $500,000, one agent said, with better-known ones making up to $1 million and stars landing multimillion-dollar deals.

Mr. Pitaro told reporters in May that ESPN is monitoring the show daily, “trying to identify what’s working and what’s not.” He said the show’s ratings are up since its launch.

#BoycottESPN

There is broad agreement within ESPN that covering sports news means sometimes tackling hot topics like politics and race. The internal debate centered on the tonnage of such coverage, conduct on social media and whether ESPN as a company should take political stances.

Mr. Skipper sought to promote progressive social values, but often his moves came off as overtly political, staffers said. Under Mr. Skipper, ESPN awarded a prestigious “ESPY” award for courage to Michael Sam, the first openly gay athlete drafted into the NFL, and another to Caitlyn Jenner for coming out as a transgender woman.

When Mr. Trump disparaged Mexican immigrants during his candidacy, ESPN shifted a charity golf tournament from Trump National Golf Club to a different venue, a move ESPN’s public editor at the time said seemed “political.”

Conservative ESPN staffers grew frustrated by increased political commentary, including from ESPN executives during the presidential election, and worried about #BoycottESPN hashtags cropping up on Twitter. “Our viewers turned to us for sports,” said Jay Crawford, a longtime SportsCenter host who was laid off a year ago. “Realizing there’s never been a time in my lifetime where our country has been more divided, I saw no value in adding to that division.”

Mark Shapiro, who helped pioneer debate shows at ESPN and is now co-president of media conglomerate WME-IMG, said, “there was too much emphasis on talking heads and fiery opinions and less on breaking news and analysis.”

Tensions boiled over with the controversy over Ms. Hill in September. At their meeting, Mr. Skipper asked pointedly if Ms. Hill thought it fair to paint colleagues who voted for Donald Trump with a broad brush as white supremacists.

“No, but I do think that they have the benefit of privilege,” Ms. Hill responded.

Several ESPN employees later told Mr. Skipper that Ms. Hill should have been suspended for her Trump tweet because she violated the company’s social-media policy.

“To me it was clear-cut that these are areas to stay away from regarding racial topics, religion, sex orientation, politics,” said Tim Legler, an ESPN basketball analyst and 17-year company veteran.

Weeks later, Mr. Skipper suspended Ms. Hill when she used Twitter to urge a boycott of Dallas Cowboys advertisers after the team’s owner had suggested benching NFL players who staged social-justice protests during the national anthem. ESPN determined that was detrimental to the company, as ESPN shared some sponsors with the Cowboys, people familiar with the situation said. In February, Ms. Hill left SportsCenter to write for ESPN’s “The Undefeated” website.

Ms. Hill’s supporters said critics often conflated “politics” with hearing diverse viewpoints from women and people of color that Mr. Skipper promoted on air. “More minorities at ESPN with strong voices” has “evidently made some people bothered,” said radio jockey Dan Le Batard on his show a year ago.

On Wednesday, the NFL said it would require players to stand during the national anthem and would fine teams if they don’t comply. The decision was debated on ESPN shows like “First Take” and “SportsCenter,” including with references to President Trump’s distaste for such protests. Ms. Hill tweeted, “Me, trying to find any NFL owners with common sense.”

Tensions with Disney

Mr. Skipper’s messy exit in December rattled employees.

Though publicly Mr. Skipper seemed to have good relations with Disney’s top brass, tensions had built up over time. Early in his tenure—he took the top ESPN job in 2012—Mr. Skipper had missed a corporate plane ride with Disney’s Mr. Iger after a night of partying following the ESPY Awards, people familiar with the incident said. Mr. Iger wasn’t happy about being kept waiting. Disney later investigated to find out about Mr. Skipper’s comings and goings that night, including looking at his company phone records, the people said.

A few years later, Mr. Iger was frustrated when Mr. Skipper made comments in a Wall Street Journal article that seemingly contradicted his explanation for why ESPN was losing subscribers, people familiar with the situation said. Zenia Mucha, Disney’s chief communications officer, called Mr. Skipper and said ESPN should be restrained in its public statements at a time of rapid industry change—a stern message that ESPN executives including Mr. Skipper took as an effective gag order, some of the people said.

Mr. Iger later said to stock analysts on an earnings call he was misled by faulty data, and he agreed with Mr. Skipper’s explanation. Privately, Disney executives were upset that Mr. Skipper himself hadn’t reconciled the two explanations, one person familiar with Disney’s thinking said.

On the other side, Mr. Skipper was unsettled by rumors, including as recently as 2017, that Disney was considering spinning off its stake in ESPN. Mr. Skipper asked Mr. Iger if the rumors were true. Mr. Iger said they weren’t, a person familiar with the conversations said. Disney’s finance team studied the topic in recent years, though Disney’s board never seriously considered a spinoff, another person familiar with the matter said.

In March, Mr. Iger tapped Mr. Pitaro as ESPN’s new boss. Mr. Skipper had earlier resisted bringing in Mr. Pitaro as his No. 2, preferring to promote from inside ESPN, according to people familiar with the matter.

Mr. Pitaro’s first major task is to build a streaming TV business. Years of delays and detours in this area frustrated Mr. Iger, who wanted the network to move faster, people close to the situation said. A streaming venture with the NBA was derailed because ESPN couldn’t settle on an approach, with some executives worrying about cannibalizing traditional TV revenue by courting cord-cutters.

Last August, Disney sped up its efforts, buying a controlling stake in Major League Baseball’s streaming arm Bamtech. The fruit of that deal is ESPN+. For $4.99 a month it offers live games and exclusive shows that don’t appear on ESPN’s TV networks.

ESPN is scouting competitive videogaming for the streaming service and on Wednesday signed a five-year, $1.5 billion deal with Ultimate Fighting Championship that will allow it to stream exclusive fights.

“They have some enormous challenges but they have by far the best brand in sports,” said WME-IMG’s Mr. Shapiro, whose company owns UFC.

—Joe Flint contributed to this article.

Write to Shalini Ramachandran at shalini.ramachandran@wsj.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36119471)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: bright chapel genital piercing

FUCK ESPN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36119510)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: galvanic senate newt

wsj has truly pulled away to become the premier news media

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36119709)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: up-to-no-good talented meetinghouse multi-billionaire

They always were

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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: concupiscible center yarmulke



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

It's pretty impressive. They are so solidly objective on the White House & political situation. They broke big shit like Stormy Daniels but it never felt like it's an agenda. Unlike the fucking NYT, let alone WaPo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36119735)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Bipolar boyish step-uncle's house

yeah i'm hesitant to say that they're "actually practicing real journalism in the current year," but it really seems like they're getting there, and making a genuine effort to do so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36119748)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Nighttime smoky school cafeteria nibblets

Worth getting a subscription to WSJ?

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

it's $40/year. yes

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Nighttime smoky school cafeteria nibblets

Ty. Link?

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

https://buy.wsj.com/offers/pages/jieStudents?trackCode=aaqntpz9&page=jieprof&term=annual#details

Charge my credit card $49.00 for the first 12 months of my Wall Street Journal subscription. Thereafter, service will automatically renew and my credit card will be charged $4 monthly

need edu email

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Bipolar boyish step-uncle's house

dude, cmon. giving "journalists" money is just plain immoral, even if they agree with your political or philosophical views

journalists are all subhuman trash

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Date: May 24th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Violet Cruise Ship Codepig

To be fair,

That doesn't need to be true in 2018, and it certainly wasn't true decades ago. Honest, fair, reasonably impartial professional reporting (as rare as it is today) is a valuable social commodity and should be both actively sought out and rewarded by intelligent civic-minded members of society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120672)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Sapphire Space



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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Sapphire Space



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

my usual plug - if you hae an .edu address you can subscribe for $40/year. support the non SJW media

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120071)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: galvanic senate newt

Yea I am goint to do this

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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Plum excitant tanning salon degenerate

they still publish too many discredited neocons from the bush years, though. you have to filter that stuff out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120107)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

op-eds totally walled off dood

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: floppy indirect expression incel

They have paywalls, so they can afford to be objective

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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: filthy station

Noam Chomsky always said WSJ was the best because big swinging dick capitalist ovelrords need to get the truth somewhere no matter how much flame they're running elsewhere

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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

good read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120065)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

"Mr. Skipper sought to promote progressive social values, but often his moves came off as overtly political, staffers said. Under Mr. Skipper, ESPN awarded a prestigious “ESPY” award for courage to Michael Sam, the first openly gay athlete drafted into the NFL, and another to Caitlyn Jenner for coming out as a transgender woman."

lots of things wrong with this paragraph, but who tf thinks ESPYs are prestigious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120099)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: bright chapel genital piercing

good catch

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

It's the network's highest honor, the biggest sports network's biggest fan-driven award show. Yeah I guess it's not Nobel/Oscar/Grammy/Tony but probably only slightly worse than a Golden Globe and on par with an MTV award.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120158)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

yes, it's an MTV award. also not prestigious

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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Self-absorbed telephone

MTV awards were semi-prestigious back in the day.

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: Slippery Balding Place Of Business Blood Rage

they were always a tongue-in-cheek hoot, a way for athletes to dress up, meet each other, and have a laugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120300)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

this too was taken by libs

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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Slippery Balding Place Of Business Blood Rage

what can the word "but" be doing in this sentence?

"Mr. Skipper sought to promote progressive social values, but often his moves came off as overtly political, staffers said."

how can you promote progressive values without being overtly political? that's what progressives do. am i missing something there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120313)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

You can be progressive without being "political." Like, you can promote women and minorities quietly within the institution by doing things like giving Linda Cohn her own show (competent, well-respected) instead of Jemele Hill (incompetent screamer).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120337)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Territorial piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120347)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

very cr and one of the worse things about libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120352)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: Slippery Balding Place Of Business Blood Rage

idk. for me, once you're supporting *progressive* values, you are making everything 100% political. that's what they do. it's the difference between progressives and the traditional liberals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120357)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

No. There's a difference between making Mary Barra CEO of GM and Marissa Mayer the CEO of Yahoo. There's a difference between putting Ginsburg on the Court and putting Sotomayor. The list of things like this are endless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120404)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: pink sneaky criminal

"There's a difference between putting Ginsburg on the Court and putting Sotomayor."

There's a difference only if you're a racist piece of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121490)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Spectacular metal weed whacker twinkling uncleanness

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121946)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121967)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: chestnut theatre

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36127526)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: pink sneaky criminal

"Like, you can promote women and minorities quietly within the institution"

Translation: Women and darkies have to keep their mouths shut and be grateful for the job they have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121488)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: primrose passionate queen of the night theater stage

Friend, under GC we *all* must keep our mouths shut and be grateful for the jobs we have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36127255)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: galvanic senate newt

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120344)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: sepia lodge

lol

Tensions boiled over with the controversy over Ms. Hill in September. At their meeting, Mr. Skipper asked pointedly if Ms. Hill thought it fair to paint colleagues who voted for Donald Trump with a broad brush as white supremacists.

“No, but I do think that they have the benefit of privilege,” Ms. Hill responded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120497)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: up-to-no-good talented meetinghouse multi-billionaire

Im not sure if these shitlibs will ever change their thinking on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120706)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: green stag film pervert

Payments to the show’s talent total some $15 million a year, with co-host Mike Greenberg making $6.5 million, people familiar with the costs said.

this isn't normal supply and demand economics. something else is going on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120767)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: 180 zombie-like ape field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36127472)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: Azure splenetic feces

clay travis has already been all over this story for years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36120960)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

deadspin maf

There Is No Evidence Whatsoever That ESPN Is Losing Subscribers Due To Its "Politics"

https://deadspin.com/there-is-no-evidence-whatsoever-that-espn-is-losing-sub-1826305140

The Wall Street Journal went deep on money problems in Bristol today in an article titled “How a Weakened ESPN Became Consumed by Politics.” The feature, like many others that have come before, presents as a fact that the Worldwide Leader is hemorrhaging subscribers due to a perceived shift to the left in its sports coverage. This view’s most prominent supporter is, of course, Donald Trump, and that he promotes it should be background enough for you to immediately question just how factual a fact this is. But if the Trump co-sign is not enough to convince you, there are some numbers—all of them culled from SportsTVRatings.com—that prove that this is, in fact, bullshit.

Let’s take a look at a cohort of networks’ subscriber numbers from July, 2011 until May, 2018:

NFL network has gained 11 million viewers over the past seven years, boosting its numbers 20 percent. NBC Sports Network and MLB Network have both gained over that period, as well, but everyone else is off by 10%, more or less. Let’s narrow the window a bit, though, from June, 2015 until May, 2018:

Every single network has fewer subscribers in 2018 than they did in 2015; NBCSN only managed to lose 191,000 of them, 0.23 percent, which means it came out “ahead” of everyone else. ESPN fared pretty poorly over this period, which is to say that it performed just as badly as Fox News did. It had nowhere near the losses of NBATV, MLB Network, or Golf Channel.

(Fox Sports 1 is not included in this list, as it—along with Fox Sports 2—were rebranded channels that existed, and in some cases still exist, on different cable tiers; thus, their subscriber numbers are not quite comparable. FS1 lost 1 percent of its subscribers from 2015 to 2018, if you were wondering.)

Are conservatives similarly “fed up” with Brian Kenny’s political views? Those of NBATV’s The Starters? Teen Titans? Of course not. People are just unsubscribing to cable TV altogether, and doing so in growing numbers.

ESPN is quite different from its partners in the above data cohort, though: its monthly carriage fee of nearly $8.00 is absurdly high compared to that of, say, NFL Network (which bills subscribers $1.40 a month) or NBC Sports Network ($0.32). Given that we can clearly see that basic cable subscribers are cutting the cord in favor cheaper, online alternatives, it seems a much more rational projection to assume that people seeking to reduce their cable bills would start with the programming that constitutes such a large percentage of it.

That choice has only become possible through more recent diversifications of cable package options. Until quite recently, ESPN was essentially included in even the most basic of basic-cable packages; now, at least with my providers, it is part of a number of “tiers” subscribers can choose from—meaning that for the first time, you can subscribe to TNT, CNN, and the national broadcast networks without buying the “basic sports tier” of ESPN and its more-expensive associates.

This is just the first phase of an a la carte cable TV future, and that future rightfully should terrify ESPN and Disney executives. But that path is straightforward and pretty obvious; it’s a simple business story about an industry struggling into a period of disruption. If ESPN actually believes that “we’ve become too political” is the reason for its recent decline, they’re in even worse shape than they know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121398)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: up-to-no-good talented meetinghouse multi-billionaire

Jfc libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36121423)



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Date: May 24th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: Territorial piazza

deadspin is like exhibit a of a good sports blog that turned to SHIT due to polititch/SJWism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36123250)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Startling range

It bothers to me that Deadspin keeps taking this position even though (1) the non lib Sportscenter ratings went up immediately and (2) people are literally saying they are quitting because of politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36123776)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: chestnut theatre

I think article correctly identifies ESPN's shift to shitlibism as not the cause of their problems, but a symptom of them being run by complete shitheads which is really what got them in trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36125001)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: vibrant know-it-all principal's office turdskin

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/389411-keith-olbermann-signs-new-deal-with-espn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36127180)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: chestnut theatre

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3985523&forum_id=2#36127497)