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Quinn Emanuel partners battling over few remaining associates

The petition cites an email in which Quinn allegedly wrote, ...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
not sure why all these recent grads are bitching about the j...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
...
Well-lubricated point people who are hurt
  06/01/18
You can tell it's serious business because John Quinn is usi...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
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Fuchsia arousing heaven dysfunction
  06/01/18
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Stirring angry pozpig
  06/01/18
3.6mos have better options...
underhanded senate
  06/01/18
the actual doc: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
quinn's emails starting at p.8
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
they tried to file under seal - guess the judge said no? Or ...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
why would they want it under seal? looks good for S&G's ...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
I would agree, but fn 1 says they asked it to be sealed unle...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
Protip: Many judges hate it when firms/companies try to seal...
obsidian infuriating juggernaut
  06/01/18
cr there's no actual confidential information in here other ...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Judges generally aren't supposed to seal stuff even if it is...
laughsome brethren
  06/02/18
Yeah, it has to be truly confidential. "This would emba...
Irradiated internal respiration rigor
  06/02/18
typo on p. 11, para 30. there's a missing space after &
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
bartlit beck is representing S&G
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
I'm a trannymo, but I understand Bartlit is prestigious? ...
splenetic corner
  06/01/18
Their Chicago office has a basketball court. Thier Denver of...
Erotic irate gunner whorehouse
  06/02/18
QE partnership agreement starting at p.30 of pdf
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
p. 79: "It has been a mystery to us, and to many others...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
this page also claims that Emanuel is not even an equity par...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
Also says that they're leaving because of QE's declining fin...
Wine Fragrant Background Story
  06/01/18
...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
...
underhanded senate
  06/02/18
Restraint of trade? Also LJL @ anyone working in an indus...
bespoke area quadroon
  06/01/18
there's a reason he's the best in the biz
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
lol I can't imagine employees see this type of petty and vin...
bespoke area quadroon
  06/01/18
Yeah, it's not like Americans worship petty, vindictive, cul...
obsidian infuriating juggernaut
  06/01/18
$4.7 M PPP bro. Pretty sure a lot of poli sci shitheads aspi...
buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house
  06/01/18
jfc
pearly giraffe
  06/01/18
lol @ "apposite"
Bronze startling affirmative action volcanic crater
  06/01/18
CHECK YOU EMAILS
Beady-eyed Hell
  06/01/18
The whole reason this is newsworthy is because generally the...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
Agreed 100%. Actions similar to that if the departing partne...
vivacious range
  06/01/18
How did she "burn" them? By leaving the firm? Ther...
buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house
  06/01/18
(why the V50 is destabilizing)
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
Won't someone please think of the V50!!
buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house
  06/01/18
just do use the firm's and the partnership's resources, conn...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
This would be a lot more convincing argument with any firm e...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
For sure. I think Quinn is the pits and I don't feel a lot ...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
agreed
Sapphire Institution Tattoo
  06/01/18
lol ok We're already in a mercenary, unstable biglaw worl...
brilliant hot public bath
  06/03/18
It's called loyalty. If you leave the firm, you are a piece ...
laughsome brethren
  06/02/18
Its like this everywhere. Banks are no different. Its dog ea...
Ruddy Frisky Associate
  06/01/18
We all acknowledge that. The point is that John had the bal...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
He has fuck you money so doesnt care.
Ruddy Frisky Associate
  06/01/18
He cares about every goddamn dollar coming into (or departin...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
Nobody poaches more top earning lit partners than Quinn oth...
Erotic irate gunner whorehouse
  06/01/18
fuck my ass... "you were paid well over $100m"
haunting therapy
  06/01/18
and they made her a star lawyer
Multi-colored henna electric furnace
  06/01/18
This is some insane patriarchal bullshit..."we" ma...
razzle toilet seat
  06/02/18
perhaps XO poasters are not the most mentally ill people wit...
Bronze startling affirmative action volcanic crater
  06/01/18
twist: john quinn is an xo poaster
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
He’s definitely an autist
Erotic irate gunner whorehouse
  06/01/18
any mfe's: on the merits, does QE even have a case? i dont k...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Not a litmo, but isnt there a difference between "you c...
Sapphire Institution Tattoo
  06/01/18
the issue is the bar ethics rules on non-competes for lawyer...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Not an ethics masterman, but they're not purporting to restr...
pearly giraffe
  06/01/18
This is not a restraint on who they can take on as clients. ...
buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house
  06/01/18
they're claiming there's an NY Ct App case directly on point...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
it's indirectly making it harder for the client to switch la...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Explain shitlib. What makes it harder for a client to swi...
buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house
  06/01/18
>A provision that said "you can't represent any form...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Cr. I’m surprised Quinn has this shit in their agreement
carnelian lettuce principal's office
  06/01/18
Lol if there’s one firm I wouldnt be surprised had some that...
Vigorous Gaped Plaza
  06/01/18
"i disagree. no law firm is gonna represent clients for...
pearly giraffe
  06/01/18
Are you running retard shtick?
vivacious range
  06/01/18
...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Easiest way to answer this is to see what the ATL braintrust...
Dashing outnumbered stead elastic band
  06/01/18
Quinn could raise salaries. They wouldn't be "very shor...
Bull headed cuck
  06/01/18
Yeah - they're among the most profitable firms in the world ...
Wine Fragrant Background Story
  06/01/18
And the profits are notoriously unequally distributed, even ...
marvelous white place of business theatre
  06/01/18
seriously, fuck them times a million
razzle toilet seat
  06/02/18
...
Garnet histrionic home reading party
  06/02/18
...
underhanded senate
  06/02/18
Someone summarize pls? Quinn is suing the woman who left for...
maroon territorial dopamine
  06/01/18
fucking boomer partners not reading their emails
Sapphire Institution Tattoo
  06/01/18
...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/01/18
Some Quinn partners departed to start their own firm. The Qu...
splenetic corner
  06/01/18
pretty much
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
that seems pretty clearly in violation of ethics rules. Wha...
maroon territorial dopamine
  06/01/18
i'm not an MFE, but s&g submitted a (((legal opinion))) ...
supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
Selendy & Gay look terrible, even taking into account th...
Spectacular Sound Barrier
  06/01/18
OH HAI JOHN
Erotic irate gunner whorehouse
  06/01/18
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supple mewling feces
  06/01/18
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splenetic corner
  06/01/18
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Garnet histrionic home reading party
  06/02/18
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ebony fluffy really tough guy main people
  06/02/18
How so? Quinn is coming off like a huge gay dicksucker imo
carnelian lettuce principal's office
  06/02/18
...
Garnet histrionic home reading party
  06/02/18
quinn sucks ass, news at 11.
Garnet histrionic home reading party
  06/01/18
Is the cliff notes that they made a Subway sandwich artist s...
Yellow talking center depressive
  06/02/18
no more than that john quinn doesn't mind telling his former...
Garnet histrionic home reading party
  06/02/18
crazy winner take all industry. $100mm for a biglaw partner...
cobalt hospital
  06/02/18
the economics of biglaw make zero sense, none. yet when 1...
Bearded overrated ticket booth ape
  06/02/18
shitboomers who make 8-figs bitching about milliennials gett...
supple mewling feces
  06/02/18


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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

The petition cites an email in which Quinn allegedly wrote, “The issues to be faced will be resolved a lot— A LOT—easier if you don’t hire any of our people. It will not be well received at all if you hire any of our people. We can have a friendly relationship if you do what I ask. I will make sure.”

Another email said the law firm was “very short of associates” and Quinn would “make sure everything goes more than smoothly if you wouldn’t hire our people.”

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/10_fee_clawback_provision_in_quinn_emanuel_partnership_contract_violates_et/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164373)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

not sure why all these recent grads are bitching about the job market, just go work at QE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164376)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Well-lubricated point people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164378)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

You can tell it's serious business because John Quinn is using capital letters and punctuation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164383)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Fuchsia arousing heaven dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165495)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Stirring angry pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164495)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: underhanded senate

3.6mos have better options...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165429)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

the actual doc: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4488963/Selendy-Et-Al-v-QE-Petition.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164384)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

quinn's emails starting at p.8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164400)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

they tried to file under seal - guess the judge said no? Or QE said fuck it, and requested it be unsealed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164404)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

why would they want it under seal? looks good for S&G's recruiting purposes and makes their associates hate QE and want to leave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164422)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

I would agree, but fn 1 says they asked it to be sealed unless QE agrees to unseal. So either QE said ok, or the judge refused the seal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164431)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: obsidian infuriating juggernaut

Protip: Many judges hate it when firms/companies try to seal stupid shit like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164456)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

cr there's no actual confidential information in here other than "this would embarrass QE." petitioners may have known that and just made a halfhearted attempt to seal so they couldn't be accused of bad faith

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164502)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: supple mewling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164564)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: laughsome brethren

Judges generally aren't supposed to seal stuff even if it is stipulated by the parties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170833)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Irradiated internal respiration rigor

Yeah, it has to be truly confidential. "This would embarrass us if it got out" isn't nearly enough. I think the way judges look at it is, if you're coming to a public judicial institution to get your dispute resolved by someone you're not paying, then it's going to be public. If you want it to be confidential, shell out for arbitration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170836)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

typo on p. 11, para 30. there's a missing space after &

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164420)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

bartlit beck is representing S&G

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164437)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: splenetic corner

I'm a trannymo, but I understand Bartlit is prestigious?

I walk past their offices all the time and take a peek. Looks like they have subterranean offices (think of something like a garden apartment)? I imagine those are for like back-office staff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165314)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Erotic irate gunner whorehouse

Their Chicago office has a basketball court. Thier Denver office has a rock climbing wall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36171736)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

QE partnership agreement starting at p.30 of pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164443)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

p. 79: "It has been a mystery to us, and to many others both inside and outside of Quinn Emanuel, why the

ordinary course of wishing each other well is beyond the firm's instinct or ability. This course remains in

our view the correct way forward."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164467)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

this page also claims that Emanuel is not even an equity partner - crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164554)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Wine Fragrant Background Story

Also says that they're leaving because of QE's declining financial state. Ouch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165261)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: supple mewling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165546)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: underhanded senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36173649)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: bespoke area quadroon

Restraint of trade?

Also LJL @ anyone working in an industry where bosses shit on departing employees publicly like this (dood wrote this in Reply All to the departing partner's farewell):

Faith, I wish I could join in the high minded sentiment you express here. Some day maybe I will be able to. But not yet. At this time I am still perhaps too mindful of other facts.

Such as that you really were not very well known at all when you joined us from White and Case.

That during your time with us we supported you in every way we could and, I think, made you a legal star.

That during your time with us you were paid well over $100m—far more than you ever dreamed you could earn.

That when you wanted to take time off to go to graduate school, we supported you.

That when you wanted to come back part time, we supported you.

That you planned your departure in secret, we now know, for months.

And let us know that you were leaving, not even with a phone call, but with an email to me and to peter, attaching a proposed form of joint press release.

That you are now planning to take as much of our work as possible.

And to recruit as many of our attorneys as possible.

I can tell you that virtually all of the attorneys you name here are pretty angry with you.

There must be a poem about deception or ingratitude that would be more apposite?

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/02/john-quinn-is-not-happy-about-selendy-gay-and-he-sent-the-angry-reply-all-to-prove-it/?rf=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164401)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

there's a reason he's the best in the biz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164411)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: bespoke area quadroon

lol I can't imagine employees see this type of petty and vindictive behavior and aspire to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164428)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: obsidian infuriating juggernaut

Yeah, it's not like Americans worship petty, vindictive, cult-of-personality assholes to be POTUS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164476)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house

$4.7 M PPP bro. Pretty sure a lot of poli sci shitheads aspire to making that kind of coin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164528)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: pearly giraffe

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164457)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: Bronze startling affirmative action volcanic crater

lol @ "apposite"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164477)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Hell

CHECK YOU EMAILS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164584)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

The whole reason this is newsworthy is because generally these sort of e-mails never get sent. But on this one issue, honestly, good for fucking John. The constant public-facing tut-tutting and high-mindedness gets tiresome when everyone knows that behind the scenes it's relentless infighting and backstabbing and jockeying within most V25 partnerships. It's one the reasons lawyers get a bad reputation--there's such an obsession with being decorous (why, one must NEVER bad mouth a departing employee; we mustn't burn our bridges, at least in public lads!) that it leads to this two-facedness in the profession. "You smile, in my face, secretly I know, you want my place, you waiting on me to choke, don't want a nigga to breathe, want to come cut my throat, you want to get rid of me." He called her out for what she did. And it was indecorous. But she also burned them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164797)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: vivacious range

Agreed 100%. Actions similar to that if the departing partner play a much larger role in this profession being SPS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165059)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house

How did she "burn" them? By leaving the firm? There's obviously a reason why she left: either she wasn't being paid what she thought she was worth, or otherwise felt mistreated. Quin failed to retain her and Selendy for whatever reason. He should stop crying like a little bitch and realize this is just business when you are running an immensely profitable law firm.

Do you think Samuel Butler sent a memo out like this when David Boies left Cravath?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165104)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

(why the V50 is destabilizing)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165155)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house

Won't someone please think of the V50!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165157)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

just do use the firm's and the partnership's resources, connections, training, and clients (while drawing $100m) to fuel your ascent from middling litigator to Chambers prominent practitioner top bitch then cut and run as soon as you reach the top while taking a bunch of client relationships (that you didn't originate but merely inherited and tended) with you because you're prissy pants that you're not feeding your hubrism with a big enough vig

If this is the omnia contra omnes world you want to live in, fine (there's a case to be made for it, for sure--perfectly competitive market, baby!), but make sure not to bitch about the consequences of it as firms become ever more mercenary, partnerships become ever less stable, career trajectories become ever less predictable, and the behind-the-scenes dynamic of partnerships continues to be more and more like a red wedding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165176)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

This would be a lot more convincing argument with any firm except for Quinn Emmanuel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165259)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

For sure. I think Quinn is the pits and I don't feel a lot of sympathy for them; it's run for the overprofit of a very small cadre of big partners to the detriment of most of its other lawyers and there is a just desserts element to this. But I just like that someone got fed up and said "fuck you" publicly to this departing rainmaker scenario that we've all seen; you don't always get your preferred bellwether case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165275)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Sapphire Institution Tattoo

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165349)



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Date: June 3rd, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: brilliant hot public bath

lol ok

We're already in a mercenary, unstable biglaw world. ITE destroyed the last vestiges of the old school gentleman's nature of the profession.

Biglaw firms treat 90-95% of their attorneys like shit - firing associates in years 1-2 with little notice, de-equitizing slow partners, increasing comp spreads to 20-1 or more, etc. No one owes the firm shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36174064)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: laughsome brethren

It's called loyalty. If you leave the firm, you are a piece of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170843)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Ruddy Frisky Associate

Its like this everywhere. Banks are no different. Its dog eat dog and always has been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165242)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

We all acknowledge that. The point is that John had the balls (or, to those who think was a bad move, the lack of self-restraint) to actually make the displeasure being felt about this somewhat public, as opposed to the typical white collar professional move of Nitezschean ressentiment where your outrage at someone's lack of loyalty and hubris is converted into a cordial "best of wishes and can't wait to see you at our next alumni event!" blast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165267)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Ruddy Frisky Associate

He has fuck you money so doesnt care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165302)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

He cares about every goddamn dollar coming into (or departing, in this case) that firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165306)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Erotic irate gunner whorehouse

Nobody poaches more top earning lit partners than Quinn other than Kirkland. He’s just a cry baby faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165469)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:53 AM
Author: haunting therapy

fuck my ass...

"you were paid well over $100m"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165077)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:08 PM
Author: Multi-colored henna electric furnace

and they made her a star lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165162)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: razzle toilet seat

This is some insane patriarchal bullshit..."we" made you a star.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170911)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Bronze startling affirmative action volcanic crater

perhaps XO poasters are not the most mentally ill people with law degrees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164419)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

twist: john quinn is an xo poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164429)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164788)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: Erotic irate gunner whorehouse

He’s definitely an autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165477)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

any mfe's: on the merits, does QE even have a case? i dont know how they even respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164455)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Sapphire Institution Tattoo

Not a litmo, but isnt there a difference between "you cant take clients" (actual restraint) vs "you can take clients, you just have to pay a vig on it"? If they had just set it as a liquidated damages provision, it would have been OK?

Also how is the no poach different than a post term nonsokicit/hire clause you see in a lot of contracts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164470)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

the issue is the bar ethics rules on non-competes for lawyers -- much stricter than general noncompetes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164489)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: pearly giraffe

Not an ethics masterman, but they're not purporting to restrict who their former partners can represent. Those partners can represent whoever they like, within the confines of the ethics rules. The ethic rules do not, however, reach the question of whether they're entitled to be paid for such representation. A provision that said "you can't represent any former clients except on a pro bono basis" should be enforceable, because lawyers bound by it can still represent those clients for free if they want to. Using ethics as a cudgel to say "fuck you I get paid" (and, beyond that, "fuck you I get paid 100% instead of 90%") is, shall we say, a uniquely lawyer-ish spin on ethics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164507)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house

This is not a restraint on who they can take on as clients.

Nor is it a fee sharing arrangement. Rather it's saying we will have damages if you leave and a reasonable estimate of those damages would be 10% fo what you were going to bring in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164541)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

they're claiming there's an NY Ct App case directly on point. I haven't read it though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164546)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

it's indirectly making it harder for the client to switch law firms, which is what the ethical rule is trying to prevent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164559)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: buff slap-happy preventive strike step-uncle's house

Explain shitlib.

What makes it harder for a client to switch firms? Because their lawyers make 10% less on every bill? How the money is split up doesn't affect how much the client pays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165156)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: supple mewling feces

>A provision that said "you can't represent any former clients except on a pro bono basis" should be enforceable, because lawyers bound by it can still represent those clients for free if they want to.

i disagree. no law firm is gonna represent clients for free, so this is basically saying you cant represent former clients of ours. it's precisely restricting who their former clients can represent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164543)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: carnelian lettuce principal's office

Cr. I’m surprised Quinn has this shit in their agreement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164586)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: Vigorous Gaped Plaza

Lol if there’s one firm I wouldnt be surprised had some that sort of provision, it’s Quinn. And Irell. Those are the two biggest asshole firms in existence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164913)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: pearly giraffe

"i disagree. no law firm is gonna represent clients for free, so this is basically saying you cant represent former clients of ours. it's precisely restricting who their former clients can represent."

No it's not. The firm can choose to represent clients for free. That it chooses not to doesn't make the restriction on receiving payment for said representation a restriction on actual representation.

Suppose the provision said, "You can't represent our former clients, unless you send us a certified letter informing us that you're doing so and give us three days notice."

Law firm responds: "Well, we don't feel like sending certified mail or giving three days notice, so this is REALLY a restriction on representing former clients therefore invalid."

Obviously absurd. If you can do something but don't feel like it, then you can't argue you are constrained from doing it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165043)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: vivacious range

Are you running retard shtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165081)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: supple mewling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165562)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: Dashing outnumbered stead elastic band

Easiest way to answer this is to see what the ATL braintrust makes of the claims and then conclude the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36164856)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Bull headed cuck

Quinn could raise salaries. They wouldn't be "very short" on associates after that. They have $5,000,000 in PPP, so they can afford it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165280)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Wine Fragrant Background Story

Yeah - they're among the most profitable firms in the world because they demand hours that exceed every other biglaw firm other than wlrk by a big margin yet they pay their associates like 12 bucks an hour for all of those extra hundreds of hours and then freak out when they can't retain associates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165330)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: marvelous white place of business theatre

And the profits are notoriously unequally distributed, even for a law firm partnership, which is one of the reasons they've historically had to especially rely on lateral hiring to keep things going. This isn't a new story with Quinn but this one is particularly remarkable since the financial hit is so big

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165345)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: razzle toilet seat

seriously, fuck them times a million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170916)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: Garnet histrionic home reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170936)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: underhanded senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36171234)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: maroon territorial dopamine

Someone summarize pls? Quinn is suing the woman who left for taking clients and associates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165356)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Sapphire Institution Tattoo

fucking boomer partners not reading their emails

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165412)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165721)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: splenetic corner

Some Quinn partners departed to start their own firm. The Quinn partnership agreement, however, requires the departing partners to pay Quinn a percentage of collected fees from select clients (generally from client relationships obtained while at Quinn). While not a requirement within the partnership agreement, Quinn also wants the departed partners not to poach any Quinn associates. The departed partners pretty much said fuck you as it's in violation of NY ethics/attorney rules. Quinn thinks otherwise. Hilarity ensues.

[I think that's accurate, but I only skimmed the doc.]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165426)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: supple mewling feces

pretty much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165567)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: maroon territorial dopamine

that seems pretty clearly in violation of ethics rules. What a fucking scumbag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165592)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: supple mewling feces

i'm not an MFE, but s&g submitted a (((legal opinion))) from a (((legal ethics expert))) and he agrees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165644)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: Spectacular Sound Barrier

Selendy & Gay look terrible, even taking into account this is John Quinn on the other end, who is one of the least sympathetic people in all of biglaw.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165397)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Erotic irate gunner whorehouse

OH HAI JOHN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165502)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: supple mewling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165570)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: splenetic corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165960)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: Garnet histrionic home reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170420)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: ebony fluffy really tough guy main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170838)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 8:52 AM
Author: carnelian lettuce principal's office

How so? Quinn is coming off like a huge gay dicksucker imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170384)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: Garnet histrionic home reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170419)



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Date: June 1st, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: Garnet histrionic home reading party

quinn sucks ass, news at 11.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36165780)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 9:13 AM
Author: Yellow talking center depressive

Is the cliff notes that they made a Subway sandwich artist sign a non-compete? (the white collar version of this)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170469)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: Garnet histrionic home reading party

no more than that john quinn doesn't mind telling his former "partners" to just do anti-trust violations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36170479)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: cobalt hospital

crazy winner take all industry. $100mm for a biglaw partner servicing firm clients?

crazy companies pay these profit margins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36171357)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Bearded overrated ticket booth ape

the economics of biglaw make zero sense, none.

yet when 1st year salaries went from 160 to 180 many GCs came out publicly bitching.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36171369)



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Date: June 2nd, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: supple mewling feces

shitboomers who make 8-figs bitching about milliennials getting a few more peanuts. odd case. fuck your bootlicking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3991278&forum_id=2#36173979)